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Britster 01-14-2011 04:16 PM

"YOU are the problem, NOT your dog!"
 
I love Zak George and his philosophies on dog training. He hosted Animal Planet's show 'Superfetch' but he's got a new one in the works. He's been on YouTube for years, doing blogs, plus training videos.

But I've definitely adapted into his training methods and always love what he has to say. He actually has 3 different youtube channels (his main one is YouTube - zakgeorge21's Channel) but he has this new 'secret' channel that he posts daily.

Anyways, thought I'd share his video from today - I love it:


Nancy1999 01-14-2011 04:31 PM

LOL, love it!!!! I can think of so many times I could have used that video to post on someone's thread. They always act like the dog is some alien who doing something out of vengeance.

roseylovestosho 01-14-2011 04:32 PM

:thumbup:

What a great video. When Teddy doesn't listen to me I end up getting frustrated with myself...:)

Britster 01-14-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3393964)
LOL, love it!!!! I can think of so many times I could have used that video to post on someone's thread. They always act like the dog is some alien who doing something out of vengeance.

Haha, I know, right? I see SO many posts just like the e-mail that Zak received posted here on YT.

Nancy1999 01-14-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 3393980)
Haha, I know, right? I see SO many posts just like the e-mail that Zak received posted here on YT.

I love the question, "Why's my dog eating out of the garbage when he knows he isn't suppose to?" Lol, how many of us eat things we aren't suppose to?

chattiesmom 01-14-2011 05:42 PM

Amen! Thank you! I've never seen Zack George before but I can tell you he is one VERY SMART young man! Like he takes "no brainers" and shoves them right back in our face in a humerous way! After watching him for two minutes, I think I am in :love:

chattiesmom 01-14-2011 05:48 PM

What would happen if we substituted BABY/TODDLER/YOUNG CHILD for DOG :D then parents would have to be accountable for "training/teaching" their children to behave. There is nothing that aggravates me more than to see young children acting like BRATS in public!

Britster, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for introducing me to Zak!

Patti 01-14-2011 05:54 PM

Very good points.

Britster 01-14-2011 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chattiesmom (Post 3394102)
What would happen if we substituted BABY/TODDLER/YOUNG CHILD for DOG :D then parents would have to be accountable for "training/teaching" their children to behave. There is nothing that aggravates me more than to see young children acting like BRATS in public!

Britster, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for introducing me to Zak!

I'm SO glad I could introduce you to him. He believes in relationship-based training and I am all with him. :)

I would recommend going through and watching a bunch of his videos. Very useful info. :)

YouTube - zakgeorge's Channel
YouTube - zakgeorge21's Channel
YouTube - SecretZakVids's Channel


horsnaround 01-14-2011 06:37 PM

awesome video

QuickSilver 01-14-2011 07:43 PM

Awesome.


"Uh, you are a HUMAN BEING!"

YorkieMother 01-14-2011 08:49 PM

I like his view point on most things but go watch again what he does with his own dog. Did you catch it??? That is extremly pushy rude behaviour in a dog that he does not deal with..... dog coming in, getting in his face and demands attention and him showing affection without him asking for a behaviour first.... who is in control there???

Not a wrong thing in a well trained dog but if he is to be teaching good behaviour to those of us unkonwing humans, then he needs to ask for a sit or down or skill before he interacts with the dog. Teach by example. All things good are earned.
No I am not saying affection is wrong or that he did something overly incorrect but when teaching you teach what it should be in public and to your class at all time in view of that class or client. Outside of that if you wish to slack off you can but those little watching learning eyes see and follow more the action then learning by words.

JL

DvlshAngel985 01-14-2011 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3393964)
LOL, love it!!!! I can think of so many times I could have used that video to post on someone's thread. They always act like the dog is some alien who doing something out of vengeance.

I agree, I absolutely love this video. This will come in handy with many threads to come.

Yorkiemother, I completely disagree with you. The dog wanted attention, and he/she asked for it in a playful yet non-overbearing way. I don't make my boy sit, dance, or do some trick for every pat, cuddle, hug, or kiss. Maybe it's a matter of preference. I have taught Kaji to get my attention in a similar manner when he needs something. I figured, how else will I know Kaji is hungry, needs to go potty, or wants my attention? Kaji isn't in my face about it, but he's also way smaller than the dog Zack has, which might make it look worse than it actually is. The dog is bigger than our yorkies so the nudge, nuzzle looks worse than it really is.

Britster 01-15-2011 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieMother (Post 3394336)
I like his view point on most things but go watch again what he does with his own dog. Did you catch it??? That is extremly pushy rude behaviour in a dog that he does not deal with..... dog coming in, getting in his face and demands attention and him showing affection without him asking for a behaviour first.... who is in control there???

Not a wrong thing in a well trained dog but if he is to be teaching good behaviour to those of us unkonwing humans, then he needs to ask for a sit or down or skill before he interacts with the dog. Teach by example. All things good are earned.
No I am not saying affection is wrong or that he did something overly incorrect but when teaching you teach what it should be in public and to your class at all time in view of that class or client. Outside of that if you wish to slack off you can but those little watching learning eyes see and follow more the action then learning by words.

JL

I'm actually surprised you're saying this, lol, as it sounds like something Cesar would say. Over a year ago, I had a different view point (though never used dominance theory on Jackson himself, I did believe in it, and had many arguments with you about it).

But his dogs are *highly* trained. They are competition frisbee dogs, and if you ever watch his training videos, he can say "Nova, go lay down. I'm working with Venus right now" and Nova will go off and lay down until told to come over. I really don't believe he's doing anything wrong and I totally agree with DvlshAngel^^.

And he has never ever preached or taught that a dog should have to obey a command first before receiving affection. He believes in relationship-based training, and basically for the *most* part, TEACHING a dog like you would a child. If my child came up to me and wanted a hug, I would not say 'You have to do the dishes first. THEN you can get a hug!' That'd be ridiculous. And eventually the child would probably think it's not even worth it to go over and ask for affection.

YorkieMother 01-15-2011 09:23 AM

Of course you disagree with me as it came out my fingers and your going to balk.

NIFIF is not a Ceser thing at all never has been.

When you talk to me you are talking to someone that has worked with Human childern for 27 years and made the connetion between human kids and fur kids like pushing 8 years ago. Nice to see you come to the table on that.


What I am saying is think for yourself... do not go blindly along... going he is wonrdeful, he is not wrong, he is so perfect... allow him to be human, allow him to learn. Allow you to learn. Take the best of what works from him and others gentle sources and grow with the trainer you are learning with.

See his faults learn from them. see his good side learn from that and do not blindly just take it in without questioning any or all of what he does. think it through as to if I do that what possible fall out for my dogs or other dogs could there be. fallout can be both postive or negative.

JL


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