Originally Posted by rrobinsonil (Post 3336024)

OP Quotes:
"Don't you dare insult my integrity or intelligence","You have no business here","find your own thread", ....You don't want advice, you want control over fiancee, dog and YT. Does this hit home...

Superiority Complex- A feeling of superiority or exaggerated self-importance, often accompanied by excessive aggressiveness, arrogance, etc. which are compensation for feelings of inferiority.

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3336032)

Dogs do not do things out of spite ie holding back pee and poop to use it at a later time. A dog's brain does not work in this manner. If you are taking her out to potty and she squats as though she is peeing then she needs to be seen by a vet for further evaluation.

As for her sneaking off~if she is doing this then you are allowing it to occur. There is no reason why you cannot keep her on a leash at your feet while you are studying.

You said that she shows teeth while on the couch with a bone. If this is happening you are allowing this as well. Do not allow her onto the couch if she behaves this way.

If she is biting and showing teeth, you need to keep her under control w/o hitting her and a good way to do this is to once again~keep a leash and harness on her and redirect her.

Finally, LadyJane is a very knowledgeable member of the YT community and insinuating that she is a bitch is totally unacceptable. She has dealt this more abused dogs in rescue than you are years old. Show a little respect!

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2 (Post 3336037)

Actually, nope....doesn't apply or have any meaning with me. I don't feel a need to dominate at all. I'm pretty passive, all I want is a family and a dog that listens and doesn't act poorly.I get pretty upset when people try to call me out as a liar because I have built a reputation for honesty and therefor a high degree of integrity. How would you like it if you made a comment and me dismiss it with no basis or understanding of the situation - and pretty much demean your character at the same time?

I don't think you or anyone would like it at all...much like myself, who found it simply insulting.

Originally Posted by yorkieusa (Post 3336063)

Well, if that statement isn't an indication of domination, I don't know what is!

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2 (Post 3336057)

Respect is earned, not given - and I will do so appropriately and when such respect is reflected. I never called her any names, nor will I. I did reference her behavior as similar to the dog in question here.

I'm not arguing this anymore, I'm not fighting with anyone over this stuff that doesn't pertain to the situation. All I'm saying is the problem at hand has been described and this person (me) is trying to tap the resource of experienced people here...not to be flogged or ridiculed for a mistake made. We aren't perfect, and I'm not claiming to be. To solidify my point, I never justified or said I WASN'T wrong for hitting the dog. I told you all so you all knew the whole truth. Honesty is a policy held in high regard with me...and I forward that onto you all in the interest of finding a solution to this issue.

Now, those posted, hard feelings and insults aside - can we please move forward?

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3336102)

I really think that you need to revisit my post to see the advice that was given to you. All excellent, given to my by my trainer and worked well.

What does your entire statement above have to do with the advice that I gave to you to address your issues properly? :confused:

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2 (Post 3336088)

As opposed to....a dog that doesn't listen and acts poorly? I don't know of any owner that wants life to be the opposite of enhanced by the companionship of a dog or other type of pet.

Any dog, when trained to do things the owner has trained it to do is a matter of domestication - which is a form of dominance by the human species.

I'm no arguing with you here, but I don't think my statement was out of line there. As far as the dog training schools and professionals for hire. I have started looking into them, I just haven't gotten to the point yet as I would very much like to learn how the best way to do the training works. I am pretty sure that the amount of yorkies out there "Home Schooled" versus hiring somebody greatly outweigh one another - and I'd like to know best for future dogs too.

I'm not dismissing the option, but I'd be very much interested in trying ideas for a few months and bonding with Bdog more and if the situation warrants a professional, then I'll at least have had some time to buddy up to Bdog and hopefully training may take a little easier.

Optimally, I'd like to see the situation resolve without spending the money on a trainer - but I'm prepared to if needed.

I hope that makes sense.

Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3336119)

Bonding with a dog any dog, does mean spending quality time with them. oh yes a "yawn " catch phrase quality time.

Take her for walks. 15 minutes even at a time every day, preferably at the same time. Hey you are studing and should take a break every two hours or so, take that opportunity to walk your dog.

Play games with her reward her for good behaviour. Feed her on a regular schedule that suits your time frame.

My dogs get fed around 6 am wkdays and 9am wkends, and nary a problem.

But that is the schedule we have all developed over years.

They also get walked every day, they swim twice a wk, oh btw we both work full time, but we do make the time to be with our pups.

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2 (Post 3335961)

Also, the last bit was over 6 months ago - for what that is worth. The growling is still persistent though. Another thing is Bdog will get a chew treat and come sit right next to you and either chew it or sit on it. If you move, even to get up - it's bare teeth and growling/barking. Any idea on discouraging this behavior? It sucks trying to have a conversation, watch a movie or simply sit on the couch and have some close time with the future wife.

Originally Posted by kjc (Post 3336144)

Okay... a few things bother me.... one is that she came from a pet shop. This means that more than likely she was removed from her Mom and the litter way too early. Also that she more than likely came from a puppy mill, so her parents are not of the best disposition/lineage. She may have benefited from additional time with her Mom and littermates, not that this is an excuse for her behavior, but a possible reason for it.

Chew toys are a choking hazzard, I agree to remove them from the house. Does she still growl if she doesn't have the chew treat and is sitting next to you when you decide to move? If yes... try to distract her first... find a food treat like Cheerios that you could toss on the floor to get her to move first, before you attempt to get up. The idea behind this is to prevent or avoid the agressive behavior, and eventually she will stop doing it in that situation. Also, she'll associate you with 'good' things....

Is there anyway to lose the crate, but still confine her in one room that is easy to keep clean? Like the kitchen maybe? I know crates are difficult to clean, so if she acts okay in the one room (with peepads) maybe it would be less stressful. Like when you come home first, take her out to potty, then a little meet and greet playtime, and some Cheerios when you confine her in the kitchen, so you can study. (And just a note: Yorkies do not see it as fair if they are confined when there is someone home.)

And another question: Does she use the same spot or spots when she is sneaking a poop? If yes, I'd place peepads in those spots until she can get her bowels under control.

Also, just a thought, my older dog sometimes goes out to potty then comes right back in the house, but I learned to watch him bc sometimes he will potty again inside. I think he gets distracted and forgets to go when he's out the first time, so if I see him searching for a spot, I just let him back out again. It used to upset me but now he knows it's okay if he needs to go out again right away. Also, bc he's older, sometimes I add cut string beans to his food... makes the poop move easier through their system, so he's more likely to poop outside the first time. JMHO: Hard poops are okay... but I adjust their diet to acheive a bit softer movement, as he appears to strain less if it's softer.

Still waiting to hear the kind of food she's eating....

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2 (Post 3336159)

Still don't know on the food - fiance puts it in a tupperware container and throws the bag away. It was a little hard to spell out when I was looking at protein content and details to the mixture a month ago.

I hadn't thought about the puppy mill idea and it makes serious sense. Interaction with the litter and mom makes a big difference at such an impressionable age of a few weeks in a bright big world.

Cheerios!! I hadn't even thought of that! I'll go get a box tonight.

Bdog doesn't have a favorite spot to use the bathroom. She picks on and goes, then she is all reclusive because she knows she did bad. If she gets out of sight, and you call her name...if she doesn't come bouncing back and in good spirits - you go on the hunt to figure out where it was and what needs to be cleaned.

I doubt she was not going to have ammo - but it's like she knows she is supposed to go outside so she acts like she does when it's apparent that she has to go.

Another thing I left out and I can't believe I did is she will get pissed if you take out the trash or do something quick like run out to the car to get something you left in it. If the fiance walks out and leaves her loose while she goes to put laundry in the washer, she will come back to a mess. If you take her for a ride, you better pay at the pump because she will mess in the car if you leave her in there for less than a minute. I consider this behavior as vindictive...am I wrong? (that is a serious question)

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2 (Post 3336159)

Still don't know on the food - fiance puts it in a tupperware container and throws the bag away. It was a little hard to spell out when I was looking at protein content and details to the mixture a month ago.

I hadn't thought about the puppy mill idea and it makes serious sense. Interaction with the litter and mom makes a big difference at such an impressionable age of a few weeks in a bright big world.

Cheerios!! I hadn't even thought of that! I'll go get a box tonight.

Bdog doesn't have a favorite spot to use the bathroom. She picks on and goes, then she is all reclusive because she knows she did bad. If she gets out of sight, and you call her name...if she doesn't come bouncing back and in good spirits - you go on the hunt to figure out where it was and what needs to be cleaned.

I doubt she was not going to have ammo - but it's like she knows she is supposed to go outside so she acts like she does when it's apparent that she has to go.

Another thing I left out and I can't believe I did is she will get pissed if you take out the trash or do something quick like run out to the car to get something you left in it. If the fiance walks out and leaves her loose while she goes to put laundry in the washer, she will come back to a mess. If you take her for a ride, you better pay at the pump because she will mess in the car if you leave her in there for less than a minute. I consider this behavior as vindictive...am I wrong? (that is a serious question)

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3336161)

Have you talked seriously, not demanded, but had a conversation about rehoming the dog? IMO it seems to be the ONLY solution. At tis point,
I cannot see that you will ever like the dog. And the dog cannot possibly be happy.

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2 (Post 3336159)

Another thing I left out and I can't believe I did is she will get pissed if you take out the trash or do something quick like run out to the car to get something you left in it. If the fiance walks out and leaves her loose while she goes to put laundry in the washer, she will come back to a mess. If you take her for a ride, you better pay at the pump because she will mess in the car if you leave her in there for less than a minute. I consider this behavior as vindictive...am I wrong? (that is a serious question)

Originally Posted by yorkieusa (Post 3336203)

Has anyone ever taught her how to tell you she needs outside? I taught mine to use doorbells to tell me when she wants out. Try to teach her how to tell you at the door that she needs out and reward her with a cheerio or some tiny training treat for telling you.

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2 (Post 3335983)

Don't you dare insult my integrity or intelligence. One thing I am not is a freaking liar or thief...the dog will squat or hunch her back over and sit there for a few seconds and act like she did good....then about 15 minutes later, in the house there is a puddle of urine or a small hump of "dog soft serve" on the carpet.

You have no freaking clue, so don't comment like that in my thread.

BAD LADYJANE!!! BAD!!

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2 (Post 3336159)

Another thing I left out and I can't believe I did is she will get pissed if you take out the trash or do something quick like run out to the car to get something you left in it. If the fiance walks out and leaves her loose while she goes to put laundry in the washer, she will come back to a mess. If you take her for a ride, you better pay at the pump because she will mess in the car if you leave her in there for less than a minute. I consider this behavior as vindictive...am I wrong? (that is a serious question)

Originally Posted by kjcmsw (Post 3336237)

I agree with most of everyone...I really think you need to start fresh and find the dog a good home however hard that may be. I think your lives might be too complicated at this time for the rigors of dog training.
But to those that don't think a dog is smart enough for "revenge" (pooping) are really underestimating a dog. We once had a Dalmation and he hated my husband, he was completely housebroken, "but" whenever he got the chance he deliberate drug out my husband's (ex) shoes and would back up and poop in them. Looking back the dog was smarter than I was! As much as I loved my Dalmation(s), my Yorkies are smarter than they ever were. I could see a Yorkie "faking" potty and coming back in for a little revenge. So, OP see your dog for what it is: one smart dog...now with some patience maybe you can train it in other ways.

Originally Posted by MyTrixie143 (Post 3336240)

After reading through all of your posts I can see some reasons as to why you are having such difficulty with training her.

First she came from a puppymill and she has all the signs of one. Puppy mill dogs are often twice as hard to potty train as they are caged up all the time and taught to go there. Breaking that habit is hard.
In addition they many times end up with behavior issues due to lack of socialization.

You will have to treat the situation like you just got a new puppy as she needs totally retrained.

Like mentioned before you need to come up with a regular feeding and potty schedule.
When you are taking her out tell her "let's go potty" or something similar. Do this every time so she will catch on and will later recognize the phrase and know what is expected.

Don't keep her outside for a half hour. She will forget what she is out there for. Give her 10 minutes to go potty. If she doesn't go bring her back inside making sure you are watching her so there isn't an accident. Take her back outside to try again in 5 minutes. Repeat the process until she goes. When she does go praise her and reward her. Positive reinforcement goes a lot further than negative reinforcement.

As for her biting, it sounds like she is hand shy, atleast with men. Of course if you had someone 10 times bigger than you reaching down to you, you might do the same.

You need to win her trust over. Just like respect, trust is earned.

Sit on the floor and toss her treats every so often and talk to her gently. Start tossing the treat right by her than gradually work up to where she has to come close by you for the treat. Don't make her take the treat from your hand until she is ready as after all it is the hand she fears. Encourage her to come to you, don't go to her, you need to go at her pace not yours. It takes a lot of time and patience but that is how you win her trust over.

Please never hit her again. Dogs have a good memory and the fact that you have hit her in the past means it will take even longer for her to get over it and be able to trust you. If you feel you must absolutely punish her, put her in a short 5 minute time out. Time outs work wonders with dogs. It teaches them what they did wrong but unlike hitting would do, it doesn't make them fear you.

If she bites you, say "yipe" or "ouch" in a high pitched tone and walk away ignoring her. Don't correct her with any negative reinforcement as it will only encourage the behavior. She left her mother and siblings too early to be taught proper bite inhabitation.
Have you ever watched a litter of puppies play?
When one gets too rough the puppy yelps and stops playing with the other pup. This sends the message, either you be nice or I'm not going to pay any attention to you. Since dogs are pack animals they crave our affection and attention. They soon learn biting will get them nowhere.

For food guarding, this is also a sign of a puppy mill dog.
You need to teach her the "leave it" command. Give the command and lure her away from her chew or food with a toy, treat or distraction. Once she leaves it, pick it up, praise and reward her. And then give her the treat back in a few minutes. Kinda like a time out for the treat if that makes sense.

Practice this several times a day. She needs to learn that A) when she acts badly when she has a treat it will be taken away from her for awhile B) when she gives it up willingly she will be rewarded and will eventually get the treat back.

My cocker spaniel had severe food aggression when I got her. Today she has none and willingly shares her food and treats with the others.
She was the runt in the litter of several pups and I believe she had to fight for her food to get any.
This resulted in any time another dog so much as went by her bowl she would attack them.
I used the above method and she soon realized that when she behaved she got to enjoy her treat, when she didn't it was taken away for a time. And once she figured it out that she would always get the treat/food back (even if another took it) she was alright.
If you had to fight for your food you wouldn't want anyone near it either. But once you learned that no matter what you always got it back you wouldn't be so inclined to fight or be nasty for it.

And since she is inclined to sneak off to mess somewhere or get into something, again treat her like you would with a puppy. Until she is completely trained, don't let her out of your sight.

Make sure she is getting plenty of exercise, play and mental stimulation. A bored dog is likely to be destructive as they have nothing else to do.

Also the less crate time, the better. If she is too distracting for you when you are trying to study, give her something to occupy her such as a kong stuffed with peanut butter or a toy that challenges her. Something that will hold her interest for awhile.

I would also consider an exercise pen. They aren't expensive and it would give her more freedom than a crate but not enough to where she would be getting into things. If you had to lay in a small space all day you would probably be bored and destructive as well.






Yes you are wrong. You give dogs too much credit, they don't have vindictive minds like us humans.
Have you ever really considered why she would do this? What is the common factor?
That would be one of you leaves. She is showing signs of separation anxiety. Some dogs pace, some bark, some are destructive and others have accidents.

This one will take a lot of time to fix. First don't make a big deal out of leaving. Practice leaving for very short periods of time. Gradually increase the time you are gone. When you get back, don't make a huge deal out of it. Even if she had an accident, this will just increase her anxiety.
Ignore her for the first few minutes. When she is more calm and relaxed then you can pet her or give her a treat. This teaches her that a calm behavior gives her rewards while any negative behavior produces nothing.


I do believe your dog can be trained however you and your fiancee need to be on the same page. You both need to use the same techniques and consistency otherwise her training will take twice as long and just end up confusing her. You also both need to be completely dedicated to working with her on this so that all three of you can live a happy normal life.


Good luck with your training and remember to be consistent, patient and reward with treats and praise as positive reinforcement will get you a far better outcome.