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Daisy's Mom · 10-01-2005, 07:28 PM

My Daisy is 8 1/2 years old. She is just as spunky as she was the day I got her. My problem is potty training. She was wonderful the first 4 years. The last year has been the worst. The other day, she actually peed on my bed!!

I'm about at my wits end! I let her outside non-stop and she always goes. Sometimes she will potty outside and come inside and pee or poop right in front of me. I assume she does this because she is mad at me????

The peeing on MY bed is about the last straw. I can't have it. I was home with her all day long. I let her out almost every hour for as long as she wanted to stay out. That evening as I started to climb into bed, I got soaked!!

I have hardwood floors throughout my home that she is ruining and what little carpet I had, I ripped out this Spring because I was shampooing it non-stop. I thought she may have had a bladder infection and took her to the vet and she is perfectly healthy.

What can I do with her????

Hamoth · 10-02-2005, 01:20 AM

You should look at google and read up on dominance issues. Then evaluate your dog for her dominance and see if that's a problem. If so, then you will need to reduce her pack status. Otherwise, I can't think of anythign else that would cause this off-hand.

Has anything else in your life changed recently? It's odd for a 4 year old dog's behavior to change so drastically.

Dudley's Mom · 10-04-2005, 01:58 PM

I really don't have any answers for you because this is my first yorkie and he is 2 years old. He leaks sometimes but mostly tries to hit the litter box. I just wanted you to know I read your post and wish you good luck.

Ladylavender · 10-06-2005, 08:45 AM

Am I to understand that you have an 8 1/2 year old dog. 4 years of the housebreaking went fine, then the other 4 1/2 years you have been having problems with her with the last year being the worse?

Was your dog ever 100% housebroken? Or were the accidents less frequent for the 1st 4 years? At least the accidents were infrequent enough to not cause a problem with you? and now they are so frequent they are impossible to live with?

If you had a 100% trained dog, then I would agree that you are dealing with a dominance issue. I have been told that dogs do not "get mad" at their owners and therefore defecate or void in front of them. Dogs do not have the emotions that humans attach to them. Revenge is not an emotion that they harbor. Whatever problems you are having it has to do with social heirarchy or not properly trained in the begining.

My recommendation to you is contact a dog trainer or behavioralist to get to the bottom of the problem. Based on their recommendations you may be able to solve the problem with some time and effort and have a great dog for the rest of her life.

yorkieusa · 10-06-2005, 10:01 AM

I cannot imagine a doggie that is housebroken suddenly becoming one that is not housebroken. I've never heard of that in my life.

Is there someone home with her everyday all day long?

Have you lived in the same home since you've had this doggie?

There is only one possible medical issue that I can think of and I don't really know if that could be it since I haven't read up on it lately. That would be possibly some problem with her kidneys, maybe even kidney stones??? Perhaps someone else on here has some knowledge on that topic.

yorkieusa · 10-06-2005, 10:17 AM

These are just ideas I'm tossing out there. I'm not saying I even think this is the problem, but something is causing this to happen. Does your vet have an ultrasound machine? If so, he could check for stones and such with it. Good luck.

I did find this:

http://www.executec.com/urolith.htm

And this:

Kidney problems in Yorkies

Q: Is it normal for a breeder to write on a dogs papers "not to be breed"? We got him when he was 4.5, and told he is the large type and shouldn't be breed. Our Yorkie is only 8 and has kidney disease. He is showing symptoms and the vet said he has a few weeks to go. Is this a genetic trait in Yorkshire Terriors? We may get another one but want to know if this is common in this breed of dog. Regards Stephen

A: Stephen- We have seen more purebred dogs with contracts that specify that the dog may not be bred recently than we did in the past. I think this is becoming a fairly common thing.

I am not aware of familial or genetic tendency towards renal disease in Yorkies but that doesn't rule out the possibility. They do get bladder stones pretty readily, based on the ones I see in my practice.

Michael Richards, DVM

http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dkidney.html

FirstYorkie · 10-06-2005, 10:22 AM

Another possibility is Addison's disease, especiallly if Daisy is drinking alot. Or even diabetes. The fact that your doc presumably ruled out a UTI doesn't necessarily mean that she doesn't have a contributing medical disorder.

Athina · 10-11-2005, 08:36 AM

Ruby is 100% house trained and almost a year old. A few months ago she all of a sudden started to pee on my bed but always on my boyfriends side (not mine). I was getting really frustrated with her and didn't understand why she was doing this because my boyfriend is really nice to her. Then one day my boyfriend came home from work and layed in bed to watch some tv and Ruby jumped up onto his chest and peed. Yes i did giggle to myself because i couldn't believe what she had just done. My boyfriend wasn't to happy. My boyfriend would even be sitting on the floor reading his newspaper and Ruby would come over and pee right in the middle of his newspaper. The answer i got was that she thought she was in a more dominant position then my boyfriend. I started to do little things like making her sleep more towards our feet then our head at night. She also started to wear a diaper to bed. Now i think she understands where she is in the rank of things and everything is back to normal.

sbarker13 · 10-11-2005, 10:13 AM

If you're looking to make yourself more dominent I bought a great ebook that has an entire section on ways to make yourself the "alpha dog" and it seems to be working so well with my baby. Even though she is only 9weeks now, it has helped a great deal with her training. If the dog sees you as the dominent it will be willing to please you and follow your commands, as it is part of their natural instinct. Here are a couple easy things you can do:

1. Make sure you and your boyfriend eat first, and then feed her..don't give any table scraps as that makes her your equal. The alpha dog always eats first and the better food.
2. Have her sleep below you. a Huge problem is that she sleeps in the bed, this again makes her your equal. This should only be a special privilage. She should really sleep on a bed below you, as the pack leader sleeps above the lower dogs so the alpha dog can look over and protect.
3. Always walk out of every door first, then let your dog follow. The Alpha dog always goes first.

another thing that can help is short daily training sessions to reinforce your leadership position, maybe have your boyfriend do some training sessions with her.

Good luck!! Let us know how it goes.

10-01-2005, 07:28 PM	#1
Daisy's Mom YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 2	Need some advice/help My Daisy is 8 1/2 years old. She is just as spunky as she was the day I got her. My problem is potty training. She was wonderful the first 4 years. The last year has been the worst. The other day, she actually peed on my bed!! I'm about at my wits end! I let her outside non-stop and she always goes. Sometimes she will potty outside and come inside and pee or poop right in front of me. I assume she does this because she is mad at me???? The peeing on MY bed is about the last straw. I can't have it. I was home with her all day long. I let her out almost every hour for as long as she wanted to stay out. That evening as I started to climb into bed, I got soaked!! I have hardwood floors throughout my home that she is ruining and what little carpet I had, I ripped out this Spring because I was shampooing it non-stop. I thought she may have had a bladder infection and took her to the vet and she is perfectly healthy. What can I do with her????

10-06-2005, 10:01 AM	#5
yorkieusa Crazy about Kacee! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 21,173	I cannot imagine a doggie that is housebroken suddenly becoming one that is not housebroken. I've never heard of that in my life. Is there someone home with her everyday all day long? Have you lived in the same home since you've had this doggie? There is only one possible medical issue that I can think of and I don't really know if that could be it since I haven't read up on it lately. That would be possibly some problem with her kidneys, maybe even kidney stones??? Perhaps someone else on here has some knowledge on that topic. __________________ Karen Kacee Muffin 1991-2005 Rest in Peace My Little Angel Last edited by yorkieusa; 10-06-2005 at 10:04 AM.

10-06-2005, 10:17 AM	#6
yorkieusa Crazy about Kacee! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 21,173	These are just ideas I'm tossing out there. I'm not saying I even think this is the problem, but something is causing this to happen. Does your vet have an ultrasound machine? If so, he could check for stones and such with it. Good luck. I did find this: http://www.executec.com/urolith.htm And this: Kidney problems in Yorkies Q: Is it normal for a breeder to write on a dogs papers "not to be breed"? We got him when he was 4.5, and told he is the large type and shouldn't be breed. Our Yorkie is only 8 and has kidney disease. He is showing symptoms and the vet said he has a few weeks to go. Is this a genetic trait in Yorkshire Terriors? We may get another one but want to know if this is common in this breed of dog. Regards Stephen A: Stephen- We have seen more purebred dogs with contracts that specify that the dog may not be bred recently than we did in the past. I think this is becoming a fairly common thing. I am not aware of familial or genetic tendency towards renal disease in Yorkies but that doesn't rule out the possibility. They do get bladder stones pretty readily, based on the ones I see in my practice. Michael Richards, DVM http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dkidney.html __________________ Karen Kacee Muffin 1991-2005 Rest in Peace My Little Angel

10-11-2005, 10:13 AM	#9
sbarker13 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10	If you're looking to make yourself more dominent I bought a great ebook that has an entire section on ways to make yourself the "alpha dog" and it seems to be working so well with my baby. Even though she is only 9weeks now, it has helped a great deal with her training. If the dog sees you as the dominent it will be willing to please you and follow your commands, as it is part of their natural instinct. Here are a couple easy things you can do: 1. Make sure you and your boyfriend eat first, and then feed her..don't give any table scraps as that makes her your equal. The alpha dog always eats first and the better food. 2. Have her sleep below you. a Huge problem is that she sleeps in the bed, this again makes her your equal. This should only be a special privilage. She should really sleep on a bed below you, as the pack leader sleeps above the lower dogs so the alpha dog can look over and protect. 3. Always walk out of every door first, then let your dog follow. The Alpha dog always goes first. another thing that can help is short daily training sessions to reinforce your leadership position, maybe have your boyfriend do some training sessions with her. Good luck!! Let us know how it goes. __________________ Sondra Barker Essential Skincare www.essentialskincare.1hwy.com Essential Skincare Ebay Store

10-02-2005, 01:20 AM	#2
Hamoth YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 358	You should look at google and read up on dominance issues. Then evaluate your dog for her dominance and see if that's a problem. If so, then you will need to reduce her pack status. Otherwise, I can't think of anythign else that would cause this off-hand. Has anything else in your life changed recently? It's odd for a 4 year old dog's behavior to change so drastically.

10-04-2005, 01:58 PM	#3
Dudley's Mom YT Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hemet, Ca Posts: 359	I really don't have any answers for you because this is my first yorkie and he is 2 years old. He leaks sometimes but mostly tries to hit the litter box. I just wanted you to know I read your post and wish you good luck.

10-06-2005, 08:45 AM	#4
Ladylavender YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN Posts: 733	Am I to understand that you have an 8 1/2 year old dog. 4 years of the housebreaking went fine, then the other 4 1/2 years you have been having problems with her with the last year being the worse? Was your dog ever 100% housebroken? Or were the accidents less frequent for the 1st 4 years? At least the accidents were infrequent enough to not cause a problem with you? and now they are so frequent they are impossible to live with? If you had a 100% trained dog, then I would agree that you are dealing with a dominance issue. I have been told that dogs do not "get mad" at their owners and therefore defecate or void in front of them. Dogs do not have the emotions that humans attach to them. Revenge is not an emotion that they harbor. Whatever problems you are having it has to do with social heirarchy or not properly trained in the begining. My recommendation to you is contact a dog trainer or behavioralist to get to the bottom of the problem. Based on their recommendations you may be able to solve the problem with some time and effort and have a great dog for the rest of her life.

10-06-2005, 10:22 AM	#7
FirstYorkie YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: American in London Posts: 1,739	Another possibility is Addison's disease, especiallly if Daisy is drinking alot. Or even diabetes. The fact that your doc presumably ruled out a UTI doesn't necessarily mean that she doesn't have a contributing medical disorder.

10-11-2005, 08:36 AM	#8
Athina YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 467	Ruby is 100% house trained and almost a year old. A few months ago she all of a sudden started to pee on my bed but always on my boyfriends side (not mine). I was getting really frustrated with her and didn't understand why she was doing this because my boyfriend is really nice to her. Then one day my boyfriend came home from work and layed in bed to watch some tv and Ruby jumped up onto his chest and peed. Yes i did giggle to myself because i couldn't believe what she had just done. My boyfriend wasn't to happy. My boyfriend would even be sitting on the floor reading his newspaper and Ruby would come over and pee right in the middle of his newspaper. The answer i got was that she thought she was in a more dominant position then my boyfriend. I started to do little things like making her sleep more towards our feet then our head at night. She also started to wear a diaper to bed. Now i think she understands where she is in the rank of things and everything is back to normal.