Need Expert Help On Potty Training!

[hatajay]

Hi all,

My name is Frank and I have two puppies. I have a female maltese at 5 months old, and a female yorkie at 2.5 month old.

The problem I am having is with the yorkie. I have had her, Violin, for the past 3 weeks. When I got her out of the breeder's house, the breeder told me that she's potty trained with training pads. The breeder also told me that she missed sometimes because she is such a baby.

The first night I had to put her in my bed since she was winning (most likely because she has had separation anxiety since she left the mother too young). Big mistake! She did it right on the bed!

I was going to use the same routine with my maltese, which was I would put diaper and diaper guard on Violin. But since she is so small, even size xxs is still too big as of this day, she could easily slip through it. Yet again, she soiled my bed again.

She has had problems with training pads as well. I use pens to set her a space in my bathroom (about 3 ft long). I put down the diaper at one end, and her bed at the other. She soiled her bed the first day. Immediately, I washed her bed and she did it again 2 days later. She would go #1, #2 in her bed, please note that I usually shower her at least once a day.

She usually would go do her thing on training pads, then she would tear apart the training pads, then #1 and #2 all over the floor. I have tried putting her in crate, she first chewed on the bedding and I had to remove that. I put rags or t-shirts in instead according to other people's suggestion. I have listened to the advice which is given her food and treats and toys in crate, yet she still soiled her crate.

The incident that I just had 30 minutes ago happened when I went downstairs in my apartment to have dinner. After I came back to her in the pens (I had her in crate previously, she went #2 on training pads and I knew she needed to go #1 any time), she was on the rugs which below it was her crap. She had it all over the floor, and her too, not to mention the rugs. I have run out of ways to train her at least not that in the crate or on the floor all the time. I read about that dogs do not soil their beds and where they eat. Well, not my yorkie. I have done putting her on training pad and ask her to "get busy" every morning, before and after breakfast and dinner, and every 3 hours in between. After she had done that, I would praise her. She sometimes would do good, but sometimes would be bad. Just like today, I had to gave her a bath twice.

Would someone please give me advice on how to resolve her issues on housebreaking? Obviously I have to do so indoors since she is too young to be outside. I would also be very happy to see not to #1 or #2 all over the place and not covered in those bacteria all the time.

Thank you all in advance to read through soooooooo much introduction!

Frank

[AbbysMom08]

First I want to say welcome to you and your furbabies!!
There are a lot of very caring people here!!

I am very sorry, I don't have an answer for you, as my Abby messes in her crate at night and sometimes on her blanket. At this point, I put her in a crate at night. Don't want to take the chance of her messing in my bed. Once I think I can trust her, I will let her sleep in my bed
It just makes me crazy. She is much older than your little one. Abby is 8 months old. I have had 2 other yorkies and never had this problem. I too am looking for an answer.
I will say good luck to you. I hope things start to straighten out for you and your little one. Please let me know how she does.

[hatajay]

AbbysMom08, thanks for your reply, i am glad someone shares the same pain...

Just a quick question, when will yorkie start looking like yorkie? I mean, the golden hair comes out.

[YorkieOwned5]

hi and welcome..
You should check out the thread that is ALL ABOUT potty training there are hundreds of post on it and you may find the help you need... Good luck. FYI. Yorkies are well known for being very slow to learn the potty ropes....Patience is the key.. a BIG KEY...... I have 2 five month old siblings, so I know what I speak...

[JoshieBoy]

to Yorkie Talk. I am sure in time she will be potty train.You confine her, but you need to put her on a schedule. Monitor when she eats, sleeps, and play will help you determine when she needs to potty. When my dog was a puppy, I had to monitor how long it took him to go potty to avoid accidents. My dog went potty about ten minutes after playing and eating. You might need to watch her more carefully to see if you can tell her no and put her on the pad when she potties in the wrong place. When I took my dog to a puppy obedience class, the trainer said the dog is rewarded when he pees in the wrong place, because he relieves the pressure on his bladder. I read on the internet that some people are able to stop their dog from destroying the pads by using washable pads that are sold at Petco and PetSmart. The washable pads are harder for the dog to chew, which makes them frustrated and they stop chewing the pads. I hope some of my suggestions might help you.

[KJLive]

The only advice I have to give is "PATIENCE".
Sohpie is just coming up on 8 mths. and sorta kinda sometimes has the potty training thing down pat.
And then there are the other days......

[mercyme]

I'm echoing what everyone else says. From what I've read, Yorkies don't have full control of their bladders/stool until they're about six months old. Even so, they are notoriously hard to potty train (I'm finding this out, as we have one who's about 6 mo. and another 4.5 mo.).

As everyone else here has said, PATIENCE !!! As frustrated as you may get at times, don't yell/get mad at them, they can't help it. It will set the potty training back.

When we first got ours, they slept with us in the bed, and yes, there were "tinkle" accidents on the comforter. Then we became "attuned" to them when they woke up (2 a.m., 4 a.m., etc.), if they were moving toward the foot of the bed, we knew it was time right then to take them to their pee pads. Make sure to praise profusely when they go where they're supposed to !!!!! Good luck, hang in there.

[KJLive]

Originally Posted by mercyme

I'm echoing what everyone else says. From what I've read, Yorkies don't have full control of their bladders/stool until they're about six months old. Even so, they are notoriously hard to potty train (I'm finding this out, as we have one who's about 6 mo. and another 4.5 mo.).

As everyone else here has said, PATIENCE !!! As frustrated as you may get at times, don't yell/get mad at them, they can't help it. It will set the potty training back.

When we first got ours, they slept with us in the bed, and yes, there were "tinkle" accidents on the comforter. Then we became "attuned" to them when they woke up (2 a.m., 4 a.m., etc.), if they were moving toward the foot of the bed, we knew it was time right then to take them to their pee pads. Make sure to praise profusely when they go where they're supposed to !!!!! Good luck, hang in there.

This is good advice. I didn't even think to mention it. It really takes a keen eye and sense of your dog to "predict" when they will have to go. Most times Sophie will bark to go out (potty). But how do you tell between the bark to play and the bark to go out? I don't know, you just learn it. But what I do is everytime she barks, she goes out. NO MATTER WHAT. Sometimes she'll just sniff the ground in front of me. Sometimes she'll bite my toes. I've learned there are many ways she tells me she has to go potty and as they get older (beyond 6 mths like previously stated) it does get more and more obvious. Otherwise, controlled feed/water (which I don't agree, I free free/water) and crate training. They just don't really get it till about 7+ months. But your consistency and patience until they get to that age is where the difference is between finally getting it or forever having accidents in the house. It doesn't seem now that your hard work and persistance is paying off. But it will. Hope that's a bit better advice than I gave before. I'm not an expert. This is just my personal experience. I'm sure other things worked better for other people.

[KJLive]

Originally Posted by hatajay

Hi all,

My name is Frank and I have two puppies. I have a female maltese at 5 months old, and a female yorkie at 2.5 month old.

The problem I am having is with the yorkie. I have had her, Violin, for the past 3 weeks. When I got her out of the breeder's house, the breeder told me that she's potty trained with training pads. The breeder also told me that she missed sometimes because she is such a baby.

The first night I had to put her in my bed since she was winning (most likely because she has had separation anxiety since she left the mother too young). Big mistake! She did it right on the bed!

I was going to use the same routine with my maltese, which was I would put diaper and diaper guard on Violin. But since she is so small, even size xxs is still too big as of this day, she could easily slip through it. Yet again, she soiled my bed again.

She has had problems with training pads as well. I use pens to set her a space in my bathroom (about 3 ft long). I put down the diaper at one end, and her bed at the other. She soiled her bed the first day. Immediately, I washed her bed and she did it again 2 days later. She would go #1, #2 in her bed, please note that I usually shower her at least once a day.

She usually would go do her thing on training pads, then she would tear apart the training pads, then #1 and #2 all over the floor. I have tried putting her in crate, she first chewed on the bedding and I had to remove that. I put rags or t-shirts in instead according to other people's suggestion. I have listened to the advice which is given her food and treats and toys in crate, yet she still soiled her crate.

The incident that I just had 30 minutes ago happened when I went downstairs in my apartment to have dinner. After I came back to her in the pens (I had her in crate previously, she went #2 on training pads and I knew she needed to go #1 any time), she was on the rugs which below it was her crap. She had it all over the floor, and her too, not to mention the rugs. I have run out of ways to train her at least not that in the crate or on the floor all the time. I read about that dogs do not soil their beds and where they eat. Well, not my yorkie. I have done putting her on training pad and ask her to "get busy" every morning, before and after breakfast and dinner, and every 3 hours in between. After she had done that, I would praise her. She sometimes would do good, but sometimes would be bad. Just like today, I had to gave her a bath twice.

Would someone please give me advice on how to resolve her issues on housebreaking? Obviously I have to do so indoors since she is too young to be outside. I would also be very happy to see not to #1 or #2 all over the place and not covered in those bacteria all the time.

Thank you all in advance to read through soooooooo much introduction!

Frank

Sorry...one more thing. 3 hours between potty breaks may be a bit too long. I hate to say it but try every hour. Then every hour 1/2 and continue to increase the time every couple weeks or so. Sophie didn't last 3 hours until she was nearly 6 mths old. And even to this day, she'll go every 2 hours if left out of her xpen. If she's in her xpen or it's night time, then she can hold it 4-5+ hours.

[yoon714]

Please be patient with your little baby =). They are little stinkers lol but I feel you on having pee and poo over the room and even on bed but have you ever tried the potty training aid spray? Thats how I taught Mimi to go on pad. She used to rip up her wee wee pads too. Then I got the wee wee pad holder. its like blue and a white frame that goes on top of it and the sides have locks. Hopefully she will master potty training soon =D

[hatajay]

Everyone, thank you very much for your heartily advices.

I would like to mention a few things here first.....

I have read every tread on this website and at least 20 others on potty training before I asked these common questions. I read books, watch videos, etc constantly. I have done my homework, at least I thought so.

I have no problem with my maltese whom I first got when she was 3 months old. She was in confined area with training pad but she missed at lot. However, she only soiled her bed once, mine twice, but that's it for 2 months (she's 5 months old now). My yorkie is the tough one, she would chew on training pad (which my malese now started to do that after she watched what her little sister did), and make sure that she soiled all over the floor plus my bed.

I really want to be able to sleep with them everyday, because they are so cute. I feel really bad when maltese sleeps with me and yorkie in the crate (she has learned a lot more about crate being her bed and not soiled since two days ago). Yes, patience, I know. I am learning that from all the mess...lol

KJLive, to your problem, I recommend using "TellBell" from Amazon.com. They work great and you can also put the two bells in different locations so the dog can learn to ring one for potty and one for play. Read the reviews, a lot of people did that. I do have one myself and had trained my 5 yrs old chihuahua to use it, really great product!

Thanks again!

By the way, can anyone tell me when their hair will grow out of black?

[hatajay]

Originally Posted by yoon714

Please be patient with your little baby =). They are little stinkers lol but I feel you on having pee and poo over the room and even on bed but have you ever tried the potty training aid spray? Thats how I taught Mimi to go on pad. She used to rip up her wee wee pads too. Then I got the wee wee pad holder. its like blue and a white frame that goes on top of it and the sides have locks. Hopefully she will master potty training soon =D

I did try the spray. I used Simple Solution. She licked on it.....gee.....

[KJLive]

Originally Posted by hatajay

Everyone, thank you very much for your heartily advices.

I would like to mention a few things here first.....

I have read every tread on this website and at least 20 others on potty training before I asked these common questions. I read books, watch videos, etc constantly. I have done my homework, at least I thought so.

I have no problem with my maltese whom I first got when she was 3 months old. She was in confined area with training pad but she missed at lot. However, she only soiled her bed once, mine twice, but that's it for 2 months (she's 5 months old now). My yorkie is the tough one, she would chew on training pad (which my malese now started to do that after she watched what her little sister did), and make sure that she soiled all over the floor plus my bed.

I really want to be able to sleep with them everyday, because they are so cute. I feel really bad when maltese sleeps with me and yorkie in the crate (she has learned a lot more about crate being her bed and not soiled since two days ago). Yes, patience, I know. I am learning that from all the mess...lol

KJLive, to your problem, I recommend using "TellBell" from Amazon.com. They work great and you can also put the two bells in different locations so the dog can learn to ring one for potty and one for play. Read the reviews, a lot of people did that. I do have one myself and had trained my 5 yrs old chihuahua to use it, really great product!

Thanks again!

By the way, can anyone tell me when their hair will grow out of black?

Thanks for the great recommendatin. Unfortunately, I already tried the bell. That's in another thread on here somewhere It was a disaster. The first time my DH rang it, she cowered. Then about 2 weeks after it she came in from going potty and was all excited and accidentally sat on the bell and it rang. Scared the living bejesus out of her! It was funny to watch though, I must say. We used a desk style bell. Can't use the hanging bells as I have three cats. No need to explain that one any further! LOL

[hatajay]

Hi guys,

Thanks for all your help. Violin is doing slightly better. However, she would at least go #1 or #2 once a day in her crate....

For example, this morning I checked her crate, everything was fine. I put her in her travel crate with me at work, but she still made a poo poo in crate even though I took her out one hour prior.

Is it just me that feels like she does that intentionally? Also, she never noticed herself but when she was on the training pad, she moved around and got all the pee on her feet. Any advice for that since I am considering letting her have long coat when she grows up? Thank you.

[hatajay]

Originally Posted by KJLive

Thanks for the great recommendatin. Unfortunately, I already tried the bell. That's in another thread on here somewhere It was a disaster. The first time my DH rang it, she cowered. Then about 2 weeks after it she came in from going potty and was all excited and accidentally sat on the bell and it rang. Scared the living bejesus out of her! It was funny to watch though, I must say. We used a desk style bell. Can't use the hanging bells as I have three cats. No need to explain that one any further! LOL

Very funny!