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GrayC25 · 11-06-2008, 09:10 AM

Yes, I think it's my DH that needs some training, too!!

I kept him on his leash for most of the night last night so I could control his wandering. It really seemed to work, except he would chew on the nylon leash from time to time. That's when I kind of knew he was getting restless, so we went outside pretty much immediately. Other times, he would lay on the ottoman and play with his toys.

We do treat him immediately after peeing/pooping. We also used to praise him, but once we got him going outside more, that slacked off. We have started doing the praising thing again, along with treating. Hopefully that will help. Samson gets so excited when we say "Good boy" because he knows a treat is coming. It's also gotten to the point where he will lift his leg for two seconds and then run over and look up at me like "Where's my treat lady??"

I will have to talk with the husband about watching him. I know he hates it because he feels like I'm criticizing him, but it needs to be consistent and we have to do it together.

joeysowner · 11-06-2008, 11:39 AM

Maybe using a crate at night may help. I know I can't trust my female to hold it unless she's in the crate. When she wakes up, we immediately take her outside. I can't let her walk by herself (my male sleeps on my daughter's bed all night and then runs to the back door when he wakes up) to the door because she'll stop and pee on the way! At first I didn't see much benefits to crating, but once they get used to it (it may take some sleepless nights) it is great! Good luck.

GrayC25 · 11-06-2008, 12:22 PM

joeysowner - as per my posts, we do use a crate. Samson sleeps in it all night, with no problems at all. He's been sleeping in a crate, with no crying or whining, since the end of the first week with us.

joeysowner · 11-06-2008, 12:33 PM

I was keyed into the "peeing by the bed" when he was with your hubby and overlooked the fact that he was in the crate by the time you came into the room.

browniesmom622 · 11-06-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GrayC25

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Granted, my husband and I have been lazy about letting him wander around the main room in our apartment (we always shut the bedrooms door), and that's where he does the majority of the peeing.

I know we've been very slack about watching him all the time. I keep telling my husband that we need to keep one eye on him at all times and if we can't, he has to be contained to one little area. My husband hates to do that, though, and doesn't want a dog that's always gated somewhere. I keep trying to tell him that I don't want that either, but for now, it's what's best for him and us and that it won't be like that forever (hopefully). But we just don't do it. I know I need to take a stand and gate him into his play area when we aren't watching him constantly, but I just don't.

Here's your problem's ^^^^^!! It's not the dog, You Need to keep an eye on him for sign's he has to go potty, Otherwise he's going to go on the floor You can't expect him to hold it.
Get up & take him out & there won't be any problems.

magsy17 · 11-06-2008, 01:21 PM

Have you taken him to the vet to see if he might have a bladder infection?

GrayC25 · 11-06-2008, 02:54 PM

Yes, we took him about two weeks ago to make sure nothing was wrong. They checked for everything, including kidney failure. They found nothing. We then got him neutered later that same week.

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Here's your problem's ^^^^^!! It's not the dog, You Need to keep an eye on him for sign's he has to go potty, Otherwise he's going to go on the floor You can't expect him to hold it.
Get up & take him out & there won't be any problems.

I don't mean to be rude, but I really don't think this is just about us getting up and letting him out. It's not like we were keeping him inside for hours at a time, expecting him to hold it. It was a HALF HOUR AFTER he'd been out. Don't you think it's a bit strange that an 8 month old dog can't hold his urine for more than a half hour??? I mean, if he were two or three months, yeah, we'd be going out every half hour. As it is, we were letting him out every
1 1/2 - 2 hours, as we thought that was a reasonable amount of time for him to hold it. Somewhere he's not making the connection.

And as for watching for signs that he has to go potty, there are none or they are very small, very tiny signs that I would never notice. He doesn't whine or go to the door or bark. He just goes wherever he wants.

But thanks for the helpful advice.

ladyjane · 11-07-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GrayC25

I don't mean to be rude, but I really don't think this is just about us getting up and letting him out. It's not like we were keeping him inside for hours at a time, expecting him to hold it. It was a HALF HOUR AFTER he'd been out. Don't you think it's a bit strange that an 8 month old dog can't hold his urine for more than a half hour???

I do not find it strange at all! He is a yorkie. If you have not already done so, websearch for yorkie information and you will find that housebreaking a yorkie is time consuming and difficult. It is one of the major drawbacks of the breed and also one of the main reasons they end up being dumped.

It sounds like you have the right ideas from what I have read...you just need to hang in a bit longer.

When I am out with my yorkies and people stop to talk to me, if they start telling me they always wanted a yorkie, I tell them to please study the breed first.

myorkiespoiled · 11-08-2008, 05:18 PM

Is he getting enough water? Concentrated urine is heavy, they have to urinate more often because they just can't hold it. They can hold urine longer if it is less concentrated. Normal urine is pale, straw colored and almost odorless. Make sure that the little fellow is hydrated. It is just a thought. Maybe this will help.

maritoma · 11-14-2008, 06:19 AM

Yorkies, I believe, will never be 100% trained, so don't try to aim for that. You can probably, if your're lucky, get him to 90%. My guy is at about that maybe less since he just pooped on the floor this morning after going out, but when it rains, that's what he does. You just get to know them and accept it, they are very stuborn, they hate to be alone and they are very hard to train. My guy is 1 and I'm starting to realize its just the way it is. I have tried it all and he still has occassional accidents. The bellybands save my rugs and carpet, when i let him roam he wears it, I would reccomend you getting one immediately.

harley1 · 11-14-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by maritoma

Yorkies, I believe, will never be 100% trained, so don't try to aim for that. You can probably, if your're lucky, get him to 90%. My guy is at about that maybe less since he just pooped on the floor this morning after going out, but when it rains, that's what he does. You just get to know them and accept it, they are very stuborn, they hate to be alone and they are very hard to train. My guy is 1 and I'm starting to realize its just the way it is. I have tried it all and he still has occassional accidents. The bellybands save my rugs and carpet, when i let him roam he wears it, I would reccomend you getting one immediately.

Well said..i feel exact same way,i am just grateful that Harley is probably about 90% trained but still at 15 months has a few accidents..i have learnt not to stress about it and he too wears a bellyband when he is roaming they are a godsend.

belindaY · 11-14-2008, 09:08 AM

It's all about compromise and tradeoff. My life has a lot less stress in it since I discovered belly bands. I buy Depends pads and cut them in half to make waterproof liners for the bands and I can now enjoy my little boy's company without worry about urine messes. They make little panties for the girls too. Yes, it is better to have them trained to do their business in a designated place, but I'm a lousy trainer and this is manageable.

Brodi mom · 11-14-2008, 09:56 AM

Oh boy does this all sound so close to home.. Well first of all I have been through this as well and what i found out is that the dye in carpet has been cleaned over and over with amionia and the dogs smell it and think it is okay to pee on it.. so I fixed that problem took up the carpet and put hard wood floors or tile down.. It is a proven fact all dogs will do this and even the owners that think that ther little angels are not . Well wait til they take up the carpet and look under is they will see alot of pee tracks.... anyway the belly bands do work but they will learn to use them like a diaper which makes them stink... take them to a trainer and be right there .., or just keep them off the carpet.. good luck.. Mother of 6 yorkies...

Judy Monteith · 11-14-2008, 10:14 AM

I don't know too much but after reading your message I got the distinct feeling he is upset over something and it is his way of retaliating. My year old yorkie sometimes goes outside and come in to pee. She has puppy pads in a container (open cat litter box). She is finally getting much better but the baby still has her accidents. I made up my mind that they are more important to me than their markings and just clean it up. I reward them when they go outside. Some people take a clicker and treats with them and when the dog goes outside he/she is rewarded. I have 3 that I walk at the same time so that has not worked for me. Just a thought. Another strange thing, I had a female cat who was fixed and every May she'd stand on top of the couch and urinate on the wall. I took her to the vet, etc. Finally, after doing this for several years it just stopped. Who knows???? Good luck. Kindness works more efficiently than getting upse. Like kids, anything for attention, good or bad. Hang in. Mother of 3 -2 yorkies, 1 poodle and loving it. Judy

JenniferLeigh · 11-14-2008, 02:12 PM

I will have to disagree with that. My 11mth old Yorkie is 100% potty trained, she's alone with full run of the house for 8 hours / day while I'm at work - no accidents. My key to success was consistency, not just letting her outside but watching to make sure she goes. While she was younger I would leave her in the kennel while at work, popping by at lunch to let her out. I believe this helped her learn to control her blatter. Not only that, when she did have an accident, I got mad - gave her a little smack on the bottom and toss her outside. At about 9 months she was completely potty trained.

Stay strong and stern. He'll get it eventually.

11-06-2008, 11:39 AM	#17
joeysowner Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: California Posts: 19	A crate may be the answer Maybe using a crate at night may help. I know I can't trust my female to hold it unless she's in the crate. When she wakes up, we immediately take her outside. I can't let her walk by herself (my male sleeps on my daughter's bed all night and then runs to the back door when he wakes up) to the door because she'll stop and pee on the way! At first I didn't see much benefits to crating, but once they get used to it (it may take some sleepless nights) it is great! Good luck.

11-06-2008, 12:33 PM	#19
joeysowner Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: California Posts: 19	Sorry I was keyed into the "peeing by the bed" when he was with your hubby and overlooked the fact that he was in the crate by the time you came into the room.

11-06-2008, 01:21 PM	#21
magsy17 LuvMyFurbaby Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 700	Have you taken him to the vet to see if he might have a bladder infection? __________________ Bella KCee Mia Cody

11-08-2008, 05:18 PM	#24
myorkiespoiled Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dexter, Missouri USA Posts: 40	Is he getting enough water? Concentrated urine is heavy, they have to urinate more often because they just can't hold it. They can hold urine longer if it is less concentrated. Normal urine is pale, straw colored and almost odorless. Make sure that the little fellow is hydrated. It is just a thought. Maybe this will help. __________________ Mary and Zaira

11-14-2008, 09:08 AM	#27
belindaY Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: redmond Posts: 132	some are perfect, some are not It's all about compromise and tradeoff. My life has a lot less stress in it since I discovered belly bands. I buy Depends pads and cut them in half to make waterproof liners for the bands and I can now enjoy my little boy's company without worry about urine messes. They make little panties for the girls too. Yes, it is better to have them trained to do their business in a designated place, but I'm a lousy trainer and this is manageable.

11-06-2008, 09:10 AM	#16
GrayC25 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 57	Yes, I think it's my DH that needs some training, too!! I kept him on his leash for most of the night last night so I could control his wandering. It really seemed to work, except he would chew on the nylon leash from time to time. That's when I kind of knew he was getting restless, so we went outside pretty much immediately. Other times, he would lay on the ottoman and play with his toys. We do treat him immediately after peeing/pooping. We also used to praise him, but once we got him going outside more, that slacked off. We have started doing the praising thing again, along with treating. Hopefully that will help. Samson gets so excited when we say "Good boy" because he knows a treat is coming. It's also gotten to the point where he will lift his leg for two seconds and then run over and look up at me like "Where's my treat lady??" I will have to talk with the husband about watching him. I know he hates it because he feels like I'm criticizing him, but it needs to be consistent and we have to do it together.

11-06-2008, 12:22 PM	#18
GrayC25 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 57	joeysowner - as per my posts, we do use a crate. Samson sleeps in it all night, with no problems at all. He's been sleeping in a crate, with no crying or whining, since the end of the first week with us.

11-14-2008, 06:19 AM	#25
maritoma Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: East Hanover, New Jersey Posts: 154	Yorkies, I believe, will never be 100% trained, so don't try to aim for that. You can probably, if your're lucky, get him to 90%. My guy is at about that maybe less since he just pooped on the floor this morning after going out, but when it rains, that's what he does. You just get to know them and accept it, they are very stuborn, they hate to be alone and they are very hard to train. My guy is 1 and I'm starting to realize its just the way it is. I have tried it all and he still has occassional accidents. The bellybands save my rugs and carpet, when i let him roam he wears it, I would reccomend you getting one immediately.

11-14-2008, 09:56 AM	#28
Brodi mom Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlottesville virginia Posts: 171	Oh boy does this all sound so close to home.. Well first of all I have been through this as well and what i found out is that the dye in carpet has been cleaned over and over with amionia and the dogs smell it and think it is okay to pee on it.. so I fixed that problem took up the carpet and put hard wood floors or tile down.. It is a proven fact all dogs will do this and even the owners that think that ther little angels are not . Well wait til they take up the carpet and look under is they will see alot of pee tracks.... anyway the belly bands do work but they will learn to use them like a diaper which makes them stink... take them to a trainer and be right there .., or just keep them off the carpet.. good luck.. Mother of 6 yorkies...

11-14-2008, 10:14 AM	#29
Judy Monteith Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Alexander, NC USA Posts: 37	Behavior I don't know too much but after reading your message I got the distinct feeling he is upset over something and it is his way of retaliating. My year old yorkie sometimes goes outside and come in to pee. She has puppy pads in a container (open cat litter box). She is finally getting much better but the baby still has her accidents. I made up my mind that they are more important to me than their markings and just clean it up. I reward them when they go outside. Some people take a clicker and treats with them and when the dog goes outside he/she is rewarded. I have 3 that I walk at the same time so that has not worked for me. Just a thought. Another strange thing, I had a female cat who was fixed and every May she'd stand on top of the couch and urinate on the wall. I took her to the vet, etc. Finally, after doing this for several years it just stopped. Who knows???? Good luck. Kindness works more efficiently than getting upse. Like kids, anything for attention, good or bad. Hang in. Mother of 3 -2 yorkies, 1 poodle and loving it. Judy

11-14-2008, 02:12 PM	#30
JenniferLeigh YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Calgary Posts: 357 Blog Entries: 1	I will have to disagree with that. My 11mth old Yorkie is 100% potty trained, she's alone with full run of the house for 8 hours / day while I'm at work - no accidents. My key to success was consistency, not just letting her outside but watching to make sure she goes. While she was younger I would leave her in the kennel while at work, popping by at lunch to let her out. I believe this helped her learn to control her blatter. Not only that, when she did have an accident, I got mad - gave her a little smack on the bottom and toss her outside. At about 9 months she was completely potty trained. Stay strong and stern. He'll get it eventually.