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06-03-2007, 04:52 PM | #136 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: kentucky
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| ok i do believe in good and bad but so far she is batting -4 |
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06-03-2007, 04:53 PM | #137 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2007 Location: kenyucky
Posts: 17
| hey yall got nice stuff all yall do, jim , hey sorry to sound like i know all |
06-03-2007, 04:54 PM | #138 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2007 Location: kenyucky
Posts: 17
| hey whos the 4 tell it? jim |
06-03-2007, 04:56 PM | #139 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2007 Location: kenyucky
Posts: 17
| hey this lady pam never made anymoney ,so far shes only bought dogs, this is the first few litters shed , give her a chance to learn, im anold guy, i learned the hard way, just sayin people learn and do better next time |
06-03-2007, 09:02 PM | #140 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: OH
Posts: 9
| I think the biggest problem with new breeders is they expect to walk right in and set up a breeding program and presto they are producing Show dogs, when they don't even show, I see many people on this list selling dogs to people to be shown and they have never once even walked in the ring and their own breeding stock is purely pet quality at best. I am new here, but not new to breeding/showing and rescuing, I have seen all sides of it. I think people really see breeding as I am going to spend X amount of money on my pair and I am going to make X amount from the pups. they see big dollar signs that is their motive. But they invest nothing into their breeding program such as showing which evaluates their breeding stock. They are the ones making the money. You have to learn to breed, you have to invest and sometimes it doesnt work out the way you thought so you have to go at it from a different angle. Prehaps breeding this male to that female really worked great and produced healthy but breeding him to this one produced pets. So you find your way to another male to try and see what breeding her to a different male does. Do you really think that the top breeders today did not have their share of dogs they bought did not work for their breeding program and they had to pet out etc. It is an investment of a lot of years and a lot of money spent that you will never see again but a good breeder is in it to better the breed not to cash in on breeding. That is where the problem today is, people think its a money maker and they want to become producers of Champions and make big bucks. Ask any show breeder who really has put the years in and the money to be where they are today. It is no way a money maker. Show weekends wether they show themselves or hire a handler are very costly and the upkeep of the dogs are costly. Many pet breeders are selling their dogs for the same or more than show breeders do and they have no show expenses and are merely breeding pet dogs with merely pet pedigrees but yet asking huge prices for a pet. I am shocked at how some people tend to forget all the great dogs that were produced by breeders when something comes up with one of their breedings. No wonder breeders are afraid to step up and say yes I had this problem and I am breeding away from that. These breeders here that say they have never had a problem, either are so new and have not had enough litters to come across something YET, yes YET because folks, this beautiful breed of ours has many health issues that can and will be seen if you breed enough, and without brave and committed breeders who are willing to take the challenge and breed, we would not have such lovely dogs today because yes they do credit for the good things they do too, don't they?? to crucify people over things that come up is really a shame, these things are in this breed and thats a fact. And aren't we all in this together ? or shouldn't we be? It really does not do a breed any good to have breeders working so hard against each other. You see it all the time and its just a different breeder getting talked about over a problem. Next year it is likely that the people here who started this thread and have really just kept this whole thing in the spotlight will be on the hot seat themselves, if they happen to have the misfortune and produce a pup with a problem and we all know the chances for that to happen is great. So I think I would get on with life and take a step back and see what you can do in your own program and let this breeder do the same. I have seen small dogs with open fonts live a normal life with no dwarfism at all. I would be shocked if this dog has that condition at all. From what I have read and seen pics of this is a dog that has not yet hit her growth spurt. Many time the little ones like her end up to be the biggest one and the bigger pups end up being the smaller ones at adult age. Have a good night folks and hope you all find success in your own breeding program and learn what breeding truely entails. TJ |
06-03-2007, 09:49 PM | #141 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: nashville tn
Posts: 1
| yes i have bought from her vickie here, i bought a dog from her and its the best thing ive ever done,she let me come to her house and we talked for 3 hrs , before she let me have one, its nice there and her dogs all are pets, im not showing nbut hers do look like great dogs, very responsible and caring for her dogs, they all were so beautiful, i realy just wanted another dog, i came along way to get her too, she let me stay the night there at her house so i wouldnt have to drive back thru the night, lexi was potty trained and had everthing for her, all was in order there, i would recomend her to anyone, shes great, i was afraid lexi would miss the other pup but she was fine, i let her sleep with me and my husband and she will wake us if she needs to potty, pam has it so her dogs are in the cener of her life, and shes mothering them to, realy well i think, all of them are spoiled rotten, their eyes sparkle with love for her, and shes a great person far as i can tell, gave me everything she needed free with the baby before i left, my vet loved her checked out perfect too, also pams vet raved on her , i think a vet like hers will tell you anything you need to know, he said sh gets all the tails and other stuff with him and spares no expense on her dogs, she only has a few dogs, even they slept with us while i was there, pam hasnt no children,i believe she loves them alot too bye vicki Last edited by vicki304; 06-03-2007 at 09:53 PM. Reason: i go by vicki |
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