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Old 11-30-2008, 02:28 PM   #196
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But GB did know where she was shipping to Puppy Land and it is a puppymill which she did admit. Why if she should would never send her own dogs there because puppymills are bad then y would she send someone elses dogs there. I think she would have never did that numerous times if she was worried about her reputation because doing that makes you look bad. I have also contacted glenda about a puppy before but then bought else where instead so i have nothing against her to be writing this. Why are the only people sticking up for her people who have bought dogs from her. I mean its hard to take in it is shocking. Before today i would have contacted her again about available puppies. I love her babies and her website. I would never have thought this but she did admit she ships to puppy mills she didnt state just one time she said from time to time she does this. Its still wrong either way.
I do not have one of Glenda's dogs. Its her well known reputation that is being tarnished by these unfounded accusations. 100% of the facts have not been made clear and if nancy and ree were sooooooooooooooo correct, then why is it that they have not posted their names and addys and phone #?? Or who they work for, for that matter.
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I do not have one of Glenda's dogs. Its her well known reputation that is being tarnished by these unfounded accusations. 100% of the facts have not been made clear and if nancy and ree were sooooooooooooooo correct, then why is it that they have not posted their names and addys and phone #?? Or who they work for, for that matter.
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First of all we do not know these documens are truly real or not. A stamp can be copied and names can be changed. Look in the papers about how others have copied money and made purchases with it. Anything can be copied and changes made these days. I just hoped that when this all comes out that it is all a mistake. I try to believe when someone tells me something it is the truth. I can see where she may have believed, that at first, this person was a show exhibitor and owned a kennel and nothing more. I am just trying to make sense of this all. I just hope all this is false!

And it makes me question - Why is no one going after the people on here that over breed, breed to small, breed below the standard, and do not have testing done - etc... This is totally wrong as well! These people are no better than pet shops!! We can almost classify them as small scale puppymills! And then there are people that go on their posts and give them praises as soon as another litter is born is no better. Let's all be truthful!
It seems that all the bybrs on YT jump with glee when something negative and so far, unfounded, comes out about a weel known reputable breeder of many years experience, but look the other way about their own breeding "programs". Very DOUBLE STANDARD

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It seems that all the bybrs on YT jump with glee when something negative and so far, unfounded, comes out about a weel known reputable breeder of many years experience, but look the other way about their own breeding "programs". Very DOUBLE STANDARD

You better hope you're not calling me a backyard breeder. Until recently, I hadn't had a litter in over a year and a half and when I do, it's about 2 litters a year. Just because breeders don't show, it doesn't make them BYBer's. You're painting with a mighty broad brush. In my opinion, BYBer's have stacks of cages in house or yard with matted dogs that hardly ever have human interaction and get little to no vet care. They breed roach back snaggletooth dogs with diseases. Who in the world do you think you are?

And as far as jumping with glee, I think not. This subject is not funny nor entertaining.

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As far as BYB's, some of the best breeders I know, are what a lot of you would consider byb's, they care more about their pups, they're raised in their houses, and the care about where they go..I'm so sick of people saying things about supposed bybs. I would rather buy from a supposed byb, then a show breeder that is sending her pups to petstores..
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This will be my last post on this thread because I really think that Glenda said it all in her own written words. However, if you really sit back, reread each and every post (with a clear mind....not defensive), you will see just how incredibly sad this is. The breeders that have stood up for Glenda and the fact that she shipped precious puppies to a pet store are yet to even seem slightly sad and/or bothered by this! You would rather defend another show breeder's reputation than take a stand for those innocent babies!! Not that it matters, but this has brought tears to my eyes and I am bothered by those of you that have justified Glenda Beaver's actions. She is the human that made the decision to scoop up all of those little babies, place them in kennels, take them to the airport and send them on their way to a PETSTORE. Those of you that have "dedicated" yourselves to this breed (like you say), how can you not even address this...how can you possibly ignore the feelings of these puppies?!

I don't get it!!

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Tammy, These are my feelings too. It makes me sad. I don't care who does it, it's sad and in my opinion, wrong.

If a person wouldn't ship their own dogs to a petstore, why would they ship someone elses?

I pose these questions to those defending GB.
*IF* you had a litter of puppies, would you sell them to a pet store?

If a friend asked you to ship their puppies to a pet store, would you?
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This will be my last post on this thread because I really think that Glenda said it all in her own written words. However, if you really sit back, reread each and every post (with a clear mind....not defensive), you will see just how incredibly sad this is. The breeders that have stood up for Glenda and the fact that she shipped precious puppies to a pet store are yet to even seem slightly sad and/or bothered by this! You would rather defend another show breeder's reputation than take a stand for those innocent babies!! Not that it matters, but this has brought tears to my eyes and I am bothered by those of you that have justified Glenda Beaver's actions. She is the human that made the decision to scoop up all of those little babies, place them in kennels, take them to the airport and send them on their way to a PETSTORE. Those of you that have "dedicated" yourselves to this breed (like you say), how can you not even address this...how can you possibly ignore the feelings of these puppies?!

I don't get it!!

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Yes, GB shipped 8 WEEK old Yorkies...one had even had surgery!!!!! Way to young to leave mama!!!! IMO !!
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Who the hell do you think you are talking to?? I have stated my own opinion to what is going on here , just how you have stated yours. period. You don't like it, too bad! Why would I have to post my name, address and phone number ? Can I have yours on here? As for who I work for, my two children and husband.

No one tarnished GB's rep...she did that all by her self. This just keeps going around and around as I have said posts back. we are speaking what we feel is right, or not right. I see by the way you write your posts, you are a repeater and a follower.
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A couple 2-3 years ago there was a lady that was a breeder, plus showed dogs(can't remember what kind), but, she was busted for having a puppy mill. She was really big in to the show ring. Now, I'll have to do a search to see if I can find who it was, or where she was from or what kind of dogs she showed

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This is incredibly sad...I pity the puppies, poor innocent living creatures. How could she, how could any one...knowingly ship defenseless pups to a pet store...any pet store. She personally admitted to this...I have no pity for her.
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"Glenda is a great Breeder" This is what Puppy Love said they did. Got full litters from Great Breeders. The Father(of our Madd) was a King Charles Spaniel. We were able to get the name of Kennel/ breeder. My Daughter,Chelsea, has all the paperwork. We went on line, they only had Spaniels listed in there Kennels, no Poodles. We e-mailed for info so she could register Maddy, and never got a reply.
It was Christmas and she had just gone through a pet trauma, and in the mind set of "you get what you pay for," I got her The Madd. There was a guarantee, $500 vet insurance policy, and 1 week return policy.(Like that could ever happen.) We took her to "Their" vet, who knew what to look for in "Their" puppies, and anything she had was taken care of. We had as best an experience as we could have at the time. Would I do it again? No. I would go to a breeder. If I wasn't on this forum, How would I find the breeder?
I hate to burst your bubble but Great Breeders/Reputable Breeders would NEVER send their pups to be sold at a pet store. You may have had a good experience and I'm happy for you BUT PLEASE don't think for a minute that they are great. They buy from Hunt Corporation - Please google them and read. If you've read through the posts you will see that I have no vested interest here. I've researched and I can tell you that the way a petstore makes their dollar is to buy cheap and in bulk and sell high. The way a miller makes his or her money is to sell cheap and in bulk. Do you think that a good breeder would sell her puppies cheap enough so that a store can make the kind of profit they need to make in order to stay in business? I'd suggest you take a look at prisoners of greed and learn about mills and petstores. Elaine
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I feel very sorry for the puppies which have been shipped to this pet store. I also cannot understand why GB would not sell a pet puppy to someone who could not afford the $3000.00 she wanted for a pet puppy, but would instead send the puppy to a pet store? When we all know they sure did not pay her $3000.00 for each puppy, not even close to it. If this is all true, which it seems to be I feel very sorry for GB too. If I was her I would not be able to sleep at night knowing I had puppies sitting in a pet store and Lord only knows where they ended up! The only victims in all this is the poor puppies! Anyone who protest to love this breed, spend years showing this breed and then turns around and places puppies with a pet store is only in it for the money, sad very sad.
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One poster asked why she would sell to pet stores. I can only think that it is an easy outlet for the many non-show quality pups that are produced while trying to get the "perfect" pup. Maybe these pups' imperfections were serious enough that she couldn't sell them with her name attached to them, so they were sent to her "friends" the Silvermans, at a severely discounted rate. Who knows? Who would ever think that there is a group of people who actually researches these health certificates? Obviously she didn't.


maybe this is the reason?
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