Glenda Beavers Pet Store Issue

[Ines3185lyorkie]

Originally Posted by Txgurl06

i would forgive her if it was true and she stopped. I can say we have all made mistakes and i dont want to be held a grudge to because of my mistakes. But dont put her on a higher pedestal making what she did right because its not. If a person would have came on here saying they ship puppies to puppyland everyone would have jumped on the thread saying how bad pet stores are and how what this perosn was doing is wrong. but since like i said before this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong.

No, and I didn't say that the puppies from Puppy Land are sick. I said the puppies from Seaside are and I can prove it. Can you prove that the dogs that were shipped were hers??? If you take time to read instead of act like a God...ex.."i would forgive her if it was true and she stopped" who made you God...girly

[Txgurl06]

Originally Posted by Ines3185lyorkie

No, and I didn't say that the puppies from Puppy Land are sick. I said the puppies from Seaside are and I can prove it. Can you prove that the dogs that were shipped were hers??? If you take time to read instead of act like a God...ex.."i would forgive her if it was true and she stopped" who made you God...girly

i never said they were sick lol??? what r you talking about? i said she is shipping dog like yours (puppymill puppies not sick dogs lol) you need to read. i didnt say you said they were sick. I never said the dogs shipped were hers. IF YOU TAKE TIME TO READ YOU WOULD SEE I DIDNT SAY ANY OF THE ABOVE LOL! i guess just like you cant read her admitting to it you cant read what i wrote correctly.
Im asking you nicely to reread what i have said in my posts because you are now accusing me of stuff i never said.

also i said i make mistakes too so how am i playing god? once again you didnt read.

[Txgurl06]

Originally Posted by Ines3185lyorkie

No, and I didn't say that the puppies from Puppy Land are sick. I said the puppies from Seaside are and I can prove it. Can you prove that the dogs that were shipped were hers??? If you take time to read instead of act like a God...ex.."i would forgive her if it was true and she stopped" who made you God...girly

ur hilarious.... girly!

[bildio]

Originally Posted by Txgurl06

--- this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong.

Now we're making progress. Glad you coming around.

[Txgurl06]

Originally Posted by bildio

Now we're making progress. Glad you coming around.

Originally Posted by Txgurl06 View Post
i would forgive her if it was true and she stopped. I can say we have all made mistakes and i dont want to be held a grudge to because of my mistakes. But dont put her on a higher pedestal making what she did right because its not. If a person would have came on here saying they ship puppies to puppyland everyone would have jumped on the thread saying how bad pet stores are and how what this perosn was doing is wrong. but since like i said before this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong.

that is my whole message read the whole thing. the " but since like i said before this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong." is referring to what yall are doing. I said if anyone else came on here and said they did the same thing they would have got pounded on but since glenda is a great breeder and show breeder then yall wont accuse her of doing anything wrong? it wasnt me saying that she didnt do anything wrong lol. good try. dont pick out what you want out of my posts to try to change the truth that she is in the wrong.

reread.

[Ines3185lyorkie]

Originally Posted by Txgurl06

Originally Posted by Txgurl06 View Post
i would forgive her if it was true and she stopped. I can say we have all made mistakes and i dont want to be held a grudge to because of my mistakes. But dont put her on a higher pedestal making what she did right because its not. If a person would have came on here saying they ship puppies to puppyland everyone would have jumped on the thread saying how bad pet stores are and how what this perosn was doing is wrong. but since like i said before this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong.

that is my whole message read the whole thing. the " but since like i said before this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong." is referring to what yall are doing. I said if anyone else came on here and said they did the same thing they would have got pounded on but since glenda is a great breeder and show breeder then yall wont accuse her of doing anything wrong? it wasnt me saying that she didnt do anything wrong lol. good try. dont pick out what you want out of my posts to try to change the truth that she is in the wrong.

reread.

WHAT I can't make out what you are talking about anymore..girly!

[Ines3185lyorkie]

[Txgurl06]

Originally Posted by Ines3185lyorkie

WHAT I can't make out what you are taling about anymore..girly!

bildo quoted my words the wrong way and i jusified how they actually went and not to pick out my words. that message wasnt for you it was for the person i quoted to. thanks i see i made my point have a great day girls.


im tired of arguing.

[bildio]

Originally Posted by Txgurl06

the " but since like i said before this glenda is a person who is a shower and a great breeder there is no way that what she admitted to is wrong." is referring to what yall are doing. I said if anyone else came on here and said they did the same thing they would have got pounded on but since glenda is a great breeder and show breeder then yall wont accuse her of doing anything wrong?

Are we on the same thread? I think most posters are accusing GB of doing something wrong?

[bildio]

Originally Posted by Txgurl06

bildo quoted my words the wrong way and i jusified how they actually went and not to pick out my words. that message wasnt for you it was for the person i quoted to. thanks i see i made my point have a great day girls.


im tired of arguing.

They were an extract from what you'd written. I didn't change a single word - just deleted what wasn't relevant to my point. And don't assume we're all girls - thank you very much. Or, maybe you meant what you wrote, and it doesn't apply to us guys.

[Trixter]

"Glenda is a great Breeder" This is what Puppy Love said they did. Got full litters from Great Breeders. The Father(of our Madd) was a King Charles Spaniel. We were able to get the name of Kennel/ breeder. My Daughter,Chelsea, has all the paperwork. We went on line, they only had Spaniels listed in there Kennels, no Poodles. We e-mailed for info so she could register Maddy, and never got a reply.
It was Christmas and she had just gone through a pet trauma, and in the mind set of "you get what you pay for," I got her The Madd. There was a guarantee, $500 vet insurance policy, and 1 week return policy.(Like that could ever happen.) We took her to "Their" vet, who knew what to look for in "Their" puppies, and anything she had was taken care of. We had as best an experience as we could have at the time. Would I do it again? No. I would go to a breeder. If I wasn't on this forum, How would I find the breeder?

[MyPeanutAbbyGra]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Yes, most breeders that SUPPLY THEIR OWN DOGS are not reputable. Glenda is not suppling HER dogs.

Is there a problem with my post???????

Glenda has TOP QUALITY SHOW YORKIES.


Until I have heard BOTH SIDES OF THIS STORY, I will not believe the two that came here ONLY to ruin reputations.

I have to say I disagree with this statement. A dog is a dog is a dog! They all have feelings and deserve the best shot at a good life in a loving home. The only way to ensure this happens is for breeders to interview buyers and make sure everything checks out. I would not, could not, in a million years ship anyone's dog to a pet store...EVER! I don't think anyone who loves dogs would.

If I've learned nothing else from Yorkie Talk, I've learned that pet stores are bad news. Puppies need a lot of love and attention, especially small breeds that can get sick very quickly. How can a store that sells 100 plus dogs a month do that?

I don't understand why you are so adamently defending this woman. She has admitted to shipping dogs hers or someone elses to a pet store...that's proof enough for me to not ever want to deal with this breeder or any breeder who would do such a thing.

I do not know GB and I am not out to tarnish anyone's rep. No matter how you slice it though, she did what, what she did.

It makes me very sad to think of these helpless little ones being shipped at such a young age and sold to, only God knows who.

[Susan123]

txgurl6, don't worry about it. All of us make grammar errors, they're just "having fun". Anyways, reader's understood your post.

[bildio]

Originally Posted by KarenAnn

All I have stated from the beginning is that Glenda Beavers does not have a USDA breeder OR broker license to sell to pet stores based upon the number of breeding females at her facility.

Do you have proof that she sold to a pet store, or just proof that she shipped to a pet store?

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by topknot

Putting the piceces together...

I have done some research on my own and this is what I came up with a Nancy and Sean Silverman that own Captiva Kennels
I think Glenda was decived by this person Nancy Silverman - owner of two places a show kennel and a pet shop. The web site states - they (Nancy and Sean) show their dogs. By looking at the the front page they look very nice. When into the site they have more breeds than I would like - but it is not uncommon for some show people to have several breeds. This is what Glenda probably knew them as - show people with a kennel. No more, no less.
I think when Glenda finally found out the truth later (after shipping the pups) - she was very shocked and surprised. As far as she knew she was a show exhibitor with a kennel and needed pups from another breeder in her area shipped to her.

As far as transporting dogs as a favor - I have brought back a dog from my handler to its owner. I have also had a friend pick up my girl from my handler and bring her to me, since she was dropping hers off to the handler.

As a previous vet tech - when someone comes in for a health certificate in order to have the dog fly - as a technician, I would fill in the information including person that brought the dogs in as owner, not that they were the owner. This is just what we write. Things are happening so fast and we were normally busy - we would just write the name down. So I can see how the vet clinic would have wrote Glenda's name as the owner when she was not. The tech is always responsible for filling out the paperwork at my vets office and then the vet just signs it.

As far as the pet shop name being on the cert. - that can be whited out and changed to say the pet shops name and then rewrote - it is not hard to copy someone's signature. You make a copy of the changed document and then you have a new original with names switched.

I still think that Glenda was lied to and deceived. Glenda is not one to lie - reason why - she just stated the truth and really trusted this Nancy person. A mistake was made and she got trapped into it. I am sure she has learned a very valuable lesson. There are many people out there that believe people for what they say and I am sure she believed this Nancy.
End of story.

Also - people should not get so mad at a person (breeder) when a breeder reduces their amount for a puppy. She may have had the boy awhile and needed to sell him and when a good home came calling she decided to reduce the price. This is not uncommon to happen. The boy may have been growing larger than expected, she may have had to go on a trip and needed to have all puppies find new homes, she may have been sick at the time, whatever ... and when this person called and seemed like she would have given this pup a good - Glenda decided to reduce the price. So do not get mad a Glenda for this and cause more problems - making this more than it is and jumping to conclusions. It is better to search for the whole truth.

Good Advice: One will hear a lot in the show world and you must learn to not trust all you hear and even question the other half you think may be true. There are always two sides to a story as well. If anything had been up wrong with Glenda - it would have been said years ago in the show world and there was nothing.

Reason - I came back on was that I do not like someone pulled through the mud, nailed up and crucified without knowing the full truth about them. It seems like we only have pieces and people were making assumptions - and you know what happens when someone assumes!! Sad to say but true - the Truth is less exciting!

Very good post! Like I said, two sides to every story and 100% of the truth was not presented by karen and ree, amoung others.