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Yorkieville200 11-18-2013 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 4350032)
They were sent to me in messages. Personally I do not know the breeder and I really don't want to see anyones reputation ruined but many a wonderful breeder here including many highly respected show breeders have given Judy very good advice about her contract and even those she has not seen fit to respond to. I don't think anyone here at YT is trying to be malicious. We all want what is best for little Max and for Sheila. We are a caring community not here to crucify anyone and we would love to know why Judy does not see fit to first of all have the genetic testing done on her breeding pairs and also to adapt her contract to make sure all her puppies, show prospect or pet have the very best life they can. Money should not be the primary concern of a good show breeder or any breeder who truly loves their dogs.
Thank you! I didn't want to ruin this breeders reputation, but I feel she has ruined it herself.

My husband tried to work things out with her. She got nasty.

I've posted her e-mail to him.

Dixies Mom 11-18-2013 11:42 AM
[QUOTE=Yorkieville200;4350047]This is the e-mail that Judy sent to my husband.

You know I am very disappointed . I have a contract for a reason. You knew that when you bought Max .I really like Shelia and I am sorry for her illness. I have mailed AKC papers to you and the ownership can't be changed until you register him and then return the papers to me . I never give papers on a puppy until they are spayed or netured but I did it for Shelia . You have told me I did not send the real picture of Treasure which you saw her when you were here !Basically you have called me a liar .Now you want a refund , not a replacement puppy? I still have the tiny female and 1 other small male . I.will let you have either one of them . I will take Max back but by my contracts terms . I am sorry but that is all I will do .if I had known he had any problems at all I would of never offered him to you . If you want to return him let me know what day so someone is here.[/QUOTE

Check all the punctuation placements.... Enough said! This is why I ask if the emails were "forwarded"

Dixies Mom 11-18-2013 11:42 AM
[quote=Dixies Mom;4350053]
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Originally Posted by Yorkieville200 (Post 4350047)
This is the e-mail that Judy sent to my husband.

You know I am very disappointed . I have a contract for a reason. You knew that when you bought Max .I really like Shelia and I am sorry for her illness. I have mailed AKC papers to you and the ownership can't be changed until you register him and then return the papers to me . I never give papers on a puppy until they are spayed or netured but I did it for Shelia . You have told me I did not send the real picture of Treasure which you saw her when you were here !Basically you have called me a liar .Now you want a refund , not a replacement puppy? I still have the tiny female and 1 other small male . I.will let you have either one of them . I will take Max back but by my contracts terms . I am sorry but that is all I will do .if I had known he had any problems at all I would of never offered him to you . If you want to return him let me know what day so someone is here.[/QUOTE


Check all the punctuation placements.... Enough said! This is why I ask if the emails were "forwarded"
This email doesn't even reflect Judy's personality!

Yorkieville200 11-18-2013 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixies Mom (Post 4350049)
I was going to send you a PM however, something stopped me.
My friend has no reason to lie to me. Send her the vet results, why won't you do that? When you make such accusations, you provide proof. How can Judy fix this with out all the information.
You have forced her to do nothing but follow the contract that you signed.
I am not sure of your motives in hurting Judy however, I am at a loss as why you would use your illness. I have a cancer with no cure and I would never place blame... Our lives are in Gods hands. Shame on you.
Your friend Judy has never so much as asked how Maxwell was doing, let alone asked to see the Vet report.

My motives in hurting Judy?

My motive in posting a review was to prevent anyone from buying a puppy from her, and ending up with a puppy like mine.

I have MS...and it has progressed to the point from all of the stress over Maxwell's condition, that I am confined to bed. And the nerve pain in my spine is unbearable.

I also have Lymphoctytic Colitis, and I have been on the Mayo Clinic's protocol, since last December. The final medication my G.I. could prescribe, ws just beginning to work, but all ot the stress caused it to stop. So, we have an appt. with our Attorney on Wednesday, to draft my Living Trust & DNR upon my G.I. Doctors advice, before I have surgery, after the 1st of the year.

Do you really think I would risk my soul, posting lies????

Yorkieville200 11-18-2013 11:48 AM
[quote=Dixies Mom;4350054]
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Originally Posted by Dixies Mom (Post 4350053)

This email doesn't even reflect Judy's personality!
So, are you implying that Judy didn't write it?

Because she did indeed write this e-mail and send it to my husband.

Yorkieville200 11-18-2013 11:49 AM
[quote=Dixies Mom;4350053]
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Originally Posted by Yorkieville200 (Post 4350047)
This is the e-mail that Judy sent to my husband.

You know I am very disappointed . I have a contract for a reason. You knew that when you bought Max .I really like Shelia and I am sorry for her illness. I have mailed AKC papers to you and the ownership can't be changed until you register him and then return the papers to me . I never give papers on a puppy until they are spayed or netured but I did it for Shelia . You have told me I did not send the real picture of Treasure which you saw her when you were here !Basically you have called me a liar .Now you want a refund , not a replacement puppy? I still have the tiny female and 1 other small male . I.will let you have either one of them . I will take Max back but by my contracts terms . I am sorry but that is all I will do .if I had known he had any problems at all I would of never offered him to you . If you want to return him let me know what day so someone is here.[/QUOTE



Check all the punctuation placements.... Enough said! This is why I ask if the emails were "forwarded"
Yes, your friend has terrible punctuation!

Dixies Mom 11-18-2013 11:56 AM
[quote=Yorkieville200;4350060]
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Originally Posted by Dixies Mom (Post 4350053)

Yes, your friend has terrible punctuation!
I have no words...

Yorkieville200 11-18-2013 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dottiesyrky (Post 4350012)
Judy should come here and defend herself and not send a legal eagle who is trying to scare us all. As for Sheila, I have known her for some time on YT and we shared many personal and emotional mails in the past re the loss of our beloved pets. She had the illness long before this situation arose, and I believe Judy understood and saw she was sick…and why she wanted a pet again. Sheila is a sweet person who would not have posted her experience with Max unless she was totally frustrated with the unfeeling breeder, with whom she thought she had a good relationship. I do know that money must be paramount to Judy and trump any emotion or empathy for people, otherwise she would let Max stay where he is and recompense Sheila for her sick pup, contract or no.
Things always get nasty when the law is involved!!!!
Thank you, Dot.

Judy and I spoke for a very long time. She knew I had MS, and I told her about the way my tiny Kia died so suddenly in my hands.

Judy actually came out to our Jeep, the 1st trip we made down to Lanesville and helped Rich walk me up the gravel and up the stairs to her boarding kennel office.

She and I exchanged many e-mails, saying we were going to be forever friends, but that all changed after she offered to take Maxwell back, and Rich convinced me it would be best, and he e-mailed her and acknowledged that her contract stated replacement puppy, but he asked her for a refund.

Then, her true personality came out. I've posted her response to him, but her friend doesn't believe that Judy wrote it, because of the poor punctuation.

Yorkieville200 11-18-2013 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dixies Mom (Post 4350062)

I have no words...
I didn't think so.

Yorkieville200 11-18-2013 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by theporkieyorkie (Post 4350017)
Can you show us where she said she would return the pup for a full refund?!? I am not seeing it anywhere in her post...but I could have easily missed it.


A lot of people read this...perspective buyers and breeders alike. I would think, if she was innocent in all of this and she felt her character was being defamed, she would want to defend her name and reputation. Your name is everything as a breeder and I would think she would want to share her side of the story.

I know you are saying that nobody knows Judy or her side of the story....but she's welcome to come here and tell it. Perhaps then, we can understand why she does what she does. So far...all she's done is come on here and confirm what Shelia already told us...which is Judy is only willing to swap out Max.


There are always 2 sides to the story.
Judy refused my husbands request for a refund, and he didn't even ask her to reimburse us for Max's medical expenses.

Yorkieville200 11-18-2013 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dottiesyrky (Post 4349879)
Talk about heartless! Judy must read all this via email, and how a Christian and humane lady cannot be moved I do not know. Does she not realize all this drama is causing Sheila to be really sick and does she want her health decline on her conscience? I thought that good breeders had feelings and cared for living things and yet she seems to have no empathy for Max, Sheila, or her very concerned husband. If this an ego thing for you Judy, swallow your pride and end this now, please!!!
Dot-Instead she sent her friend, Dixie's Mom to speak for her.

And she doesn't believe that her friend Judy, lied to her, when she told her that she offered us a refund.

I posted Judy's e-mail to my husband, and Dixie's Mom doesn't believe her friend Judy sent it, because of Judy's punctuation. What can I say?

Yorkieville200 11-18-2013 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemini (Post 4350039)
Has anyone seen any vet reports.
The YTCA and AKC are definitely getting copies. And even though Judy has never so much as asked about Maxwell, after we told her about his diagnosis, she will get copies, as well.

Maxwell has his 3rd Schirmer tear test tomorrow morning.

Dixies Mom 11-18-2013 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkieville200 (Post 4350072)
The YTCA and AKC are definitely getting copies. And even though Judy has never so much as asked about Maxwell, after we told her about his diagnosis, she will get copies, as well.

Maxwell has his 3rd Schirmer tear test tomorrow morning.
Judy should have already been given this information. That is where the lines of communication have been lost.

magicgenie 11-18-2013 12:30 PM
This is incredibly sad--
 
For what it's worth, Judy appears to have honored the terms of her contract. Now that something has gone wrong we have a buyer wanting to change the terms of the contract after the fact.
Personally, I would buy back the puppy, AND likely reimburse the vet fees AFTER confirming the conditions treated indeed existed. I don't like the "you keep the puppy and get your money back" system as too much temptation for fraud. My contract says "full refund upon return of the puppy." I've made exceptions based on the customer's willingness to work WITH me and not remarkably AGAINST me. Don't worry, any puppy coming back would be given the best of care!
Sorry to have to post this, but this thread is getting sickening!
By the way, if you don't like my terms, don't buy my puppy!

nanahas3 11-18-2013 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by magicgenie (Post 4350079)
For what it's worth, Judy appears to have honored the terms of her contract. Now that something has gone wrong we have a buyer wanting to change the terms of the contract after the fact.
Personally, I would buy back the puppy, AND likely reimburse the vet fees AFTER confirming the conditions treated indeed existed. I don't like the "you keep the puppy and get your money back" system as too much temptation for fraud. My contract says "full refund upon return of the puppy." I've made exceptions based on the customer's willingness to work WITH me and not remarkably AGAINST me. Don't worry, any puppy coming back would be given the best of care!
Sorry to have to post this, but this thread is getting sickening!
By the way, if you don't like my terms, don't buy my puppy!
I agree with this also no breeder should be expected to buy back and let a person keep their puppy but if a it is a defect in the breeders lines I feel they should be willing to pay the vet bills up to the cost of the puppy. I don't think anyone here thinks anyone should expect a breeder to give a free puppy away.


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