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[nanahas3]

I also do not know anything about this breeder but I do find the original post very confusing. Maybe if Teresa could explain the situation it would help. I agree that questions about anesthesia should be asked and the methods made clear before we allow our furbabies to be put under just as we would ask them for our skinbabies. As far as following up on the puppy it would be much harder for this breeder to do that since they live thousands of miles away.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by nanahas3

I also do not know anything about this breeder but I do find the original post very confusing. Maybe if Teresa could explain the situation it would help. I agree that questions about anesthesia should be asked and the methods made clear before we allow our furbabies to be put under just as we would ask them for our skinbabies. As far as following up on the puppy it would be much harder for this breeder to do that since they live thousands of miles away.

I have adopted pups to out of state homes and know where they are! It's not that hard IF you care.

[lisaly]

I don't see the correlation between the dental and the breeder unless there were health issues with Bonnie that would put her at risk, and there is a lot that we don't know about how that poor little baby was abused before she came to live with Theresa. Michael Ostern and his family have beautiful dogs, and I started to read about him a couple of years ago. The first things that I heard were from a breeder whose main breeding stock came from the Ostern family, and she raved about them. She said the controversy relating to the family stemmed from other people's jealousy. I personally am not in a position to evaluate if that is true. However, if you google his name in Yorkie Talk, you will see that there was a dispute with a puppy bought by someone named Jin in Queens, New York who was planning to use the puppy as part of their breeding stock, and there were many problems with that puppy and the transaction was disgraceful. I later learned that Betty (Micah My Love) also bought Micah from Michael Ostern, and her dog had MVD. Both of these instances made me start to question Michael's ethics. I think there's probably a lot more that we don't know about Bonnie that Lisette and Theresa know which would help clarify why they are questioning Michael Ostern's ethics. Bottom line for me is that it is so very sad that Bonnie had to live the life she had before she came into Theresa's life, and it's equally sad that she lost her life during a routine dental. I am so sorry for Theresa's loss.

[manolos mom]

I guess the point is that this sweet girl lived a terrible life until she found the one she lives in now. No one knows how she lost her eye, they think a fight happened at the Kennel in Germany because when she was brought to the US she did not have an eye. She lived a kennel with lots of others and was bred many times over. This little girl had so many issues. One being she had seizures, a lot of seizures and was put on Phenobarbital while with Teresa. She had bad knees and was still bred. So many of her offspring are out there with who knows what.

The point also is that this breeder continues to use her picture with his advertisement for profit. She was sold to another breeder here in the US and when he was finished with her he sold her. She went to many homes because of her many issues. I do know that her last 2 homes were very caring people.


They think Bonnie had a blood clot during her surgery...

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

I guess the point is that this sweet girl lived a terrible life until she found the one she lives in now. No one knows how she lost her eye, they think a fight happened at the Kennel in Germany because when she was brought to the US she did not have an eye. She lived a kennel with lots of others and was bred many times over. This little girl had so many issues. One being she had seizures, a lot of seizures and was put on Phenobarbital while with Teresa. She had bad knees and was still bred. So many of her offspring are out there with who knows what.

The point also is that this breeder continues to use her picture with his advertisement for profit. She was sold to another breeder here in the US and when he was finished with her he sold her. She went to many homes because of her many issues. I do know that her last 2 homes were very caring people.


They think Bonnie had a blood clot during her surgery...

If she were mine, I would have a necropsy done. I would want to know what happened.

[TeresaM]

This is the story as I know it. I can't vouch for any of it, I never bothered to verify it. Her previous life was of no concern to me. I simply wanted to give her the best that I could.

BiewerBaby was her breeder in Germany. He showed and championed her. He had some litters (I don't know how many) and then sold her to someone here in the states. It seems that this person was either a bad byb or a puppy mill. She was in many dog fights at this place and somehow lost her eye. Either due to a fight injury or infection. I don't believe she was ever able to have puppies and he gave her to someone else who and said if she was ever able to get puppies out of Bonnie that he would take a female in payment. This lady thought Bonnie had mange because she had bald spots with open wounds. Her vet said that it wasn't mange but infected dog bites from fighting. I believe Bonnie then went to a couple of other homes from there and finally ended up with me last April. She had serious issues with other females and a lot of other quirky behaviors. JMHO but they were defense behaviors she developed to deal with her fears and anxieties. I got her spayed and was told by my vet that we got to her just in time as her uterus was full of pus and infection. Her agression dimished tremendously after her spay and in time most of her other quirks disappeared too. She had seizures and was on meds that controlled them. She was a part of our pack and loved to run barking her head off out the back door with them whenever a "threat" to hearth and home presented itself. She and G took their jobs as our home security officers very seriously.

My vet took every precautions with Bonnie. They were well aware of her seizures and knew her back story as much as I did. We talked at length before her appointment about what anesthesia and care would be used for her. He is an Texas A&M grad with several years experience in an ER before he opened his own practice. His facility is state of the art, clean and well maintained. His staff is compassionate and knowledgable. I have no doubt that everything was done to ensure that Bonnie made it through this without any issues. They did everything they could to revive her and are grieving with me in her loss. She was their only surgery patient on Fri. And when I dropped her off I told them that I fully expected to have to give her a bath when I got home because I found that she usually messed herself when left in small areas and for them to not worry if she did. The receptionist said, "Well then the crate is not an option for this girl. I'll just keep her up front with me until they are ready." And she did. She said Bonnie sat on her lap while she worked and that she happily greeted everyone who came in. Several people petted and spoke to her. That, as much as anything, has helped me. To know that she was in Sara's lap and the center of attention in her last hours.

My vet had already contacted colleagues at A&M and sent all her paperwork and stats to them to review. He wanted to be sure someone else looked at it and that he hadn't missed anything. He is also having the anesthesia machine company come out this week and run a diagnostic on the machine to be sure it wasn't giving false readings. It's not that she didn't come out of the anesthesia, her heart and breathing stopped when they turned her to do the other side of her mouth. The best guess is that she may have had a blood clot that came loose when they turned her over.

My sister and her boyfriend have a beautiful ranch close by and agreed without hesitation to allow me to lay Bonnie to rest there. I took her out Sat morning, they already had a spot picked out and the hole dug for me. Rick layed her very gently down and carefully covered her up. There are huge shade trees all around her now. A gentle creek flows close by. The birds were singing her to heaven and my sister hugged me fiercely the whole time. I will be able to visit her any time I need to.

Hug your babies, love every moment you have with them. The good, the bad and the ugly moments. I don't know why God needed her to come home to him now, but I trust in his love for me and I know I will see her again. She and Annie B are, I'm sure, running wild and terrorizing the bunnies and squirels together now. It's funny, my 2 puppy mill rescues, one of their most favorite things to do was run and run in the back yard. Neither ever seemed to tire of that activity. Run like the wind, sweet babies. Run like the wind until we are together again.

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Annie B
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[ladyjane]

Teresa, I am sorry for your loss. At least she was living a happy life (that she should have had all along) with you when she left...not that it makes it all better.

RIP Bonnie

[107barney]

Let me start this post by saying that I am very sorry for the loss of Bonnie.

I don't think breeding has anything to do with the unfortunate and very sad death of the dog. I'd be more interested in the errors made at the vet, and if there were none, then at the very least looking more into the dog's underlying medical status which may have prompted the inability to withstand the procedure.

The risk of anesthetic death is less than 1% of 1%. This a concern for all of us, however it is a very small one in the big scheme of things. I would need some answers as to why the dog died, if there are any to be found.

Again, my condolences.

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by TeresaM

This is the story as I know it. I can't vouch for any of it, I never bothered to verify it. Her previous life was of no concern to me. I simply wanted to give her the best that I could.

BiewerBaby was her breeder in Germany. He showed and championed her. He had some litters (I don't know how many) and then sold her to someone here in the states. It seems that this person was either a bad byb or a puppy mill. She was in many dog fights at this place and somehow lost her eye. Either due to a fight injury or infection. I don't believe she was ever able to have puppies and he gave her to someone else who and said if she was ever able to get puppies out of Bonnie that he would take a female in payment. This lady thought Bonnie had mange because she had bald spots with open wounds. Her vet said that it wasn't mange but infected dog bites from fighting. I believe Bonnie then went to a couple of other homes from there and finally ended up with me last April. She had serious issues with other females and a lot of other quirky behaviors. JMHO but they were defense behaviors she developed to deal with her fears and anxieties. I got her spayed and was told by my vet that we got to her just in time as her uterus was full of pus and infection. Her agression dimished tremendously after her spay and in time most of her other quirks disappeared too. She had seizures and was on meds that controlled them. She was a part of our pack and loved to run barking her head off out the back door with them whenever a "threat" to hearth and home presented itself. She and G took their jobs as our home security officers very seriously.

My vet took every precautions with Bonnie. They were well aware of her seizures and knew her back story as much as I did. We talked at length before her appointment about what anesthesia and care would be used for her. He is an Texas A&M grad with several years experience in an ER before he opened his own practice. His facility is state of the art, clean and well maintained. His staff is compassionate and knowledgable. I have no doubt that everything was done to ensure that Bonnie made it through this without any issues. They did everything they could to revive her and are grieving with me in her loss. She was their only surgery patient on Fri. And when I dropped her off I told them that I fully expected to have to give her a bath when I got home because I found that she usually messed herself when left in small areas and for them to not worry if she did. The receptionist said, "Well then the crate is not an option for this girl. I'll just keep her up front with me until they are ready." And she did. She said Bonnie sat on her lap while she worked and that she happily greeted everyone who came in. Several people petted and spoke to her. That, as much as anything, has helped me. To know that she was in Sara's lap and the center of attention in her last hours.

My vet had already contacted colleagues at A&M and sent all her paperwork and stats to them to review. He wanted to be sure someone else looked at it and that he hadn't missed anything. He is also having the anesthesia machine company come out this week and run a diagnostic on the machine to be sure it wasn't giving false readings. It's not that she didn't come out of the anesthesia, her heart and breathing stopped when they turned her to do the other side of her mouth. The best guess is that she may have had a blood clot that came loose when they turned her over.

My sister and her boyfriend have a beautiful ranch close by and agreed without hesitation to allow me to lay Bonnie to rest there. I took her out Sat morning, they already had a spot picked out and the hole dug for me. Rick layed her very gently down and carefully covered her up. There are huge shade trees all around her now. A gentle creek flows close by. The birds were singing her to heaven and my sister hugged me fiercely the whole time. I will be able to visit her any time I need to.

Hug your babies, love every moment you have with them. The good, the bad and the ugly moments. I don't know why God needed her to come home to him now, but I trust in his love for me and I know I will see her again. She and Annie B are, I'm sure, running wild and terrorizing the bunnies and squirels together now. It's funny, my 2 puppy mill rescues, one of their most favorite things to do was run and run in the back yard. Neither ever seemed to tire of that activity. Run like the wind, sweet babies. Run like the wind until we are together again.

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Annie B
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Love you Teresa, my heart bleeds with you at this time....God Bless you and I know you gave this girl every drop of compassion that you have.....You are a dear friend, just thought Bonnie's Story must be told, from the begining to the end....It started off very rough but ended in compassion that will fill all of our hearts on YT forever....God Bless this little girl and others that have and are suffering....BONNIE'S STORY.......Never forget what goes on and continues to go on in this world.....

[msyorktown]

Teresa I am soo sorry for the loss of your Bonnie...she is truly running wild at the Rainbow Bridge now.
I'm so happy she found the life she was supposed to live in her forever home with you.
RIP Bonnie

[lynzy420]

Teresa, I started this thread because I did my own layman's research on this breeder after asking about who Bonnie's breeder was.

I in no way care if hes breeding Biewers or Yorkies or even Great Danes, the entire preface for my thread is that he is an unethical breeder. It is one thing to ship dogs to responsible, ethical, professional breeders such as the many (not all) on here to improve the breed etc., (though its not my preferance) I understand that. I know for certain, sight unseen that many of our breeders (not all) on YT would never, ever have allowed what happened to Bonnie happen to their pups. The fact that no one knows what happened to Bonnie and that she came to the US without an eye for breeding purposes is sickening and deplorable. Whatever happened to her eye was a serious situation, this poor baby suffered and after her traumatic injury should have been spayed and retired to a life of luxury.

Instead, she was shipped out on a very long flight to be bred...we will never know what REALLY happened to Bonnie in all her time here and before she came here...

What we do know is that it wasn't what any dog deserves, period.

Teresa afforded her the life, love and health care she deserved. I realize anesthesia is always risky...of course I know that by now. But the cards, IMHO the chips were stacked against this poor pup because of the breeding practices/adoption practices of this GREEDER. Sending a dog like Bonnie to the US for breeding is abuse in of itself, in my book.

Thank you Teresa for doing all you did for her, I so wish she could have had more time to enjoy running into your loving arms...may she rest in peace.

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

Love you Teresa, my heart bleeds with you at this time....God Bless you and I know you gave this girl every drop of compassion that you have.....You are a dear friend, just thought Bonnie's Story must be told, from the begining to the end....It started off very rough but ended in compassion that will fill all of our hearts on YT forever....God Bless this little girl and others that have and are suffering....BONNIE'S STORY.......Never forget what goes on and continues to go on in this world.....

BONNIE'S STORY goes way beyond her death during a Dental, at least for me it does. Go take a look at her picture on his avatar. She was his champion!! Poor baby girl, RIP SWEET ANGEL....

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

Teresa, I started this thread because I did my own layman's research on this breeder after asking about who Bonnie's breeder was.

I in no way care if hes breeding Biewers or Yorkies or even Great Danes, the entire preface for my thread is that he is an unethical breeder. It is one thing to ship dogs to responsible, ethical, professional breeders such as the many (not all) on here to improve the breed etc., (though its not my preferance) I understand that. I know for certain, sight unseen that many of our breeders (not all) on YT would never, ever have allowed what happened to Bonnie happen to their pups. The fact that no one knows what happened to Bonnie and that she came to the US without an eye for breeding purposes is sickening and deplorable. Whatever happened to her eye was a serious situation, this poor baby suffered and after her traumatic injury should have been spayed and retired to a life of luxury.

Instead, she was shipped out on a very long flight to be bred...we will never know what REALLY happened to Bonnie in all her time here and before she came here...

What we do know is that it wasn't what any dog deserves, period.

Teresa afforded her the life, love and health care she deserved. I realize anesthesia is always risky...of course I know that by now. But the cards, IMH were stacked against this poor pup because of the breeding practices/adoption practices of this GREEDER. Sending a dog like Bonnie to the US for breeding is abuse in of itself, in my book.

Thank you Teresa for doing all you did for her, I so wish she could have had more time to enjoy running into your loving arms...may she rest in peace.

[ladyjane]

Sadly, there are many champions who are sick. They suffer and die as do their offspring...it is never ending.

[AllDogBoots]

I am just tearing up at this story. I am so sorry.