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Old 01-07-2011, 08:38 AM   #31
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Jrsy you have known these women since 2007. You have or had 3 dogs that came from them. Tia, Brooklyn and now Mia
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...rsey-help.html
Here you and everyone was warned that Susan is a broker and sells all sorts of breeds.
You defended her.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...r-nj-pa-2.html
Post 19......Post 24 Here in Sept. of 2010 you continue to defend her.

There are threads over and over on YT about top knotch, colorsilk and tanglewood where people warn you.

You knew full well who you were dealing with. This is sad, so sad.

You have come on here and defended these horrible breeders for 3 years. I just don't understand with all the posting and knowledge you have, yet why would you ignore all the warnings about these breeders that you got.

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This topknotch is not the YTCA Top Notch Yorkies in
Lancaster, CA 93536............They are spelled different.
The first link you posted if you read it, I did not defend her. I said I would not buy a pup from her because she got from Brazil and I need to know the parents are treated well and not living in a hell hole. I also said that I got Tia second hand in the newspaper.

The second link I did defend her because I believed she had stopped brokering and was using her own breeding program. It took time for me to trust this woman but finally I did.

Again, I was wrong and I'm not looking for sympathy just looking to make people aware, but please read through the two posts before you say I defended her for years. This is not true. It was only the last year and a half that I changed my toon about her and admit now that I made a mistake. Elaine

Please, now lets just leave this as a thread to serve as a warning to others. I've already admitted responsibility from buying from a bad place. Leave it at that and let others learn from my mistake so that hopefully it's not repeated by someone else.
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Jen I think you may be talking about this YTCA person.

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Im sorry she is sick and really hope she gets better real soon. She looks like such a sweet girl. I know we can get attached so fast. I just don't get it though. You wanted a tiny and said you knew how to care for them. You knew she had been sick prior. You took her to the vet on the way home. She was found unfit for sale. The breeder offered to return the pup for a refund. It had only been a few days and you refused. I just don't see how you can take her to court and win. Maybe it's just me but if I would have paid $1800 I would have turned around that day and returned her.

And, what would happen to the pup if she were returned? Under NJ Lemon Law you have the right to retain the pup and have the vet bills paid up to double the price of the pup OR return the pup for a full refund plus the vet expenses incurred up to that point. Call me stupid, but if the pup was sold sick, what makes you think they'd take the time to vet and cure her? My feelings were she was sold sick, and would probably be resold to someone else sick. I chose to attempt to cure her rather then send her back. I do not think it's a matter of winning in court. I'm sure I will get the judgment as I followed the NJ Puppy Lemon Law, but I do not think I will ever see the money and although I'd like to get it back this is more about exposing and hopefully putting an end to her selling and brokering sick dogs. I know it's a pup but to me sending her back sick, was not an option. It would be like sending a sick child back. That is how I feel.
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Jen I think you may be talking about this YTCA person.

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This is the one with the open font $5,000 puppy?
Jen. This is not the one I was refering to that tried to sell me a five month old. It was a five month old with an open font and she wanted $3,000 plus shipping. I did not contact this breeder. I'm not sure if I should post the breeder's name or not that I initially contacted. I'd rather not stir stuff up, but topnot was not the one I was refering to. It is another YTCA member.
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Nope, that is not the one. However, it's being worked on by YTCA members.
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Jen. This is not the one I was refering to that tried to sell me a five month old. It was a five month old with an open font and she wanted $3,000 plus shipping. I did not contact this breeder. I'm not sure if I should post the breeder's name or not that I initially contacted. I'd rather not stir stuff up, but topnot was not the one I was refering to. It is another YTCA member.
Not to worry Elaine, it's being taken care of.
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Hello, I signed up for YT in Jan of 2010, but just got back on here yesterday. I have read your messages. I am totally in an agreement with you. I had a similar situation with my yorkie and was scammed in so many ways, but your right after talking with people sometimes it all sounds good until you start the digging. I would NOT of taken her back either it takes real dog lovers to keep a sick dog, as we did the same thing. Breeders don't care it's all about the money. Throughout life we all have different opinions and don't listen to negative comments. If their were more people such as yourself n myself than dogs would always have the best care. I commend you for keeping your little girl and my thoughts and prayers are with you. I like how people past judgment because you wanted the same size playmate for your other yorkie, that is smart and we all have the right to what size, breed, and color animal we choose to have, I wanted a 5lb black and dark brown and have a 12.4lb silver and tan yorkie, but he is my baby and I will take very good care of him as I would my child. It's not the dogs fault people lie to get money. Good Luck and your doing a great job and I'm sure Mia is happy to be with you and out of that horrible home!!!!
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Jen. This is not the one I was refering to that tried to sell me a five month old. It was a five month old with an open font and she wanted $3,000 plus shipping. I did not contact this breeder. I'm not sure if I should post the breeder's name or not that I initially contacted. I'd rather not stir stuff up, but topnot was not the one I was refering to. It is another YTCA member.
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Nope, that is not the one. However, it's being worked on by YTCA members.
Just what will YTCA do about her, remove her from the club? Will you come back and update on the breeder that tried to do this? If she tried once, I'm afraid she'll try again, only this time with someone that doesn't know what they are dealing with. It shouldn't be kept on the DL!
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I've been following this thread and I'm sorry for the random question but what does "open font" mean? Thank you.

Also, I'm very sorry about Mia. I don't think I could have just returned her either. When Teddy is only a little sick my world stops, I can only vaguely imagine how you are feeling right now.
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I've been following this thread and I'm sorry for the random question but what does "open font" mean? Thank you.

Also, I'm very sorry about Mia. I don't think I could have just returned her either. When Teddy is only a little sick my world stops, I can only vaguely imagine how you are feeling right now.
Open font, is open fontanel, the soft spot on the skull (just like with human babies) which should close within a few months. It's not too uncommon for a pup to be born with an open font but it should close and certainly I would think by 5 months in a yorkie. I believe it's more common in chihuahuas and many of them don't ever close. If the font doesn't close, the puppy can lead a good life, but you have to be extremely careful as they are very susceptible to injury .
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Open font, is open fontanel, the soft spot on the skull (just like with human babies) which should close within a few months. It's not too uncommon for a pup to be born with an open font but it should close and certainly I would think by 5 months in a yorkie. I believe it's more common in chihuahuas and many of them don't ever close. If the font doesn't close, the puppy can lead a good life, but you have to be extremely careful as they are very susceptible to injury .
Thank you...I had no way of figuring it out using context clues...hah
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I cried watching that poor little one struggling to breath. It's so sad she has to suffer because of the actions of people who should have her best interests at heart.
I researched over a year educating myself about the Biewer and their breeders. My efforts paid off in finding my lovable, feisty, beautiful Dori. I advise everyone to do the same. I realized I was making a 15 year commitment and did not take it lightly.
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Elaine, I was just trying to help you if it was wrote wrong, thats all. When I seen it, I thought they had lied to you about age also.
I know Kim Thank you and I'm sorry I didn't mean to come off cranky. I'm just really tired. Again, I'm sorry for jumping at you. E.
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