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Old 01-07-2011, 07:08 AM   #16
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Yes. The mixes are Shannons and the Yorkies (Colorsilk Yorkies) are Susan's. Susan said to me initially when I stuck up for her on here, that Shannon does her own thing and that she (Susan) only breeds Yorkies. If you look at her breeding program it looks great. The pups are in homes with families and not kenneled etc. Glenda and her supposedly stud back and forth. And, this is why about a two months ago someone was accusing her of brokering and I stuck up for Susan saying "No she does not broker now. That she started her own breeding program." This is what I believed. And, this is another reason I posted this thread so that others know that I was wrong and she is still brokering. Also, www.tanglewoodyorkies.com which is Glenda's site is owned by Susan Morgan. I posted the document to show that. Bottom line is they are at the least being brokered by Susan but I believe there is more of a partnership and that they do not own up to this because Susan will sell the pup here in NJ but try to say it's Glenda's to cover her ass with the NJ Lemon Law so you can't do anyting to her. I have full intentions on going as far as I have to to show she is fully involved with this operation so that other puppies do not suffer and other families.
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And, I know there is someone on here that goes back and reports to Susan. And, it is a donating member. It's happened many times that Susan has known about things said on here. I hope this person watches Mia's video and sees how sick she is after 10 days. Maybe then they'll rethink being friends with her.
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So sorry your little girl is sick. The best part of all this is that she is now in a loving, caring home. Hate to think what she would be like if you hadn't taken her.

Just shows that even those with the best intentions can get cheated.

Hope it all works out for the best and she turns out to be the most robust pup.

Prayers are with Mia.
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That video of poor little Mia breaks my heart as im sure it does yours. I am so sorry she is so sick and i will keep her in my prayers that she will get better real soon. Its obvious how much you love her and im sure you are doing everything in your power to get her well. Im glad she is with you because its pretty clear that where she came from she wouldnt probably survive at all. God Bless your little Mia!
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Elaine, I'm sorry Mia is so sick and hope she is all better soon! I understand your reasons for wanting another tiny one, I did too, for your same reason. Ruby is tiny and for my 2nd yorkie I wanted another one within a pound or so of her size, Reno is slightly more than that, but still considered a small yorkie at 4 1/2lbs.

I appreciate you exposing this breeder/broker for what she truly is....a disreputable greeder. Hopefully this exposure will encourage her to do the right thing. I wouldn't have taken her back either, with Mia being this sick, she obviously wasn't getting cared for by the greeder!

And, as far as the YTCA breeder....OMG.....her name should be listed here too, that is a crying shame to sell an open font pup and that price should make it a crime!
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That video of poor little Mia breaks my heart as im sure it does yours. I am so sorry she is so sick and i will keep her in my prayers that she will get better real soon. Its obvious how much you love her and im sure you are doing everything in your power to get her well. Im glad she is with you because its pretty clear that where she came from she wouldnt probably survive at all. God Bless your little Mia!
Thank you. I took the video because it's easy to post vet bills and letters and it's she said / he said but the video does not lie. This way there is no disbuting what is said about her being sick. And, I would highly reccomend ANYONE with a sick pup to do the same. Gives you undistbutable proof. And, by the way at night she is far worse. We have her sleeping with us to make sure she is breathing. I did not take the video to bed with me, but may do that too. It is very heartbreaking to see them so sick and only be able to do so much. Also, something I learned with tinies that yes they are more suseptable to illness, but that when they get it there bodies cannot fight it off like a larger Yorkie and the testing such as blood work is almost impossible. Mia's veins are too tiny to get blood from and her hynie was too tiny to get the thermometer in. I never considered this part of it but see it first hand. People need to know this too about little ones.

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And, I know there is someone on here that goes back and reports to Susan. And, it is a donating member. It's happened many times that Susan has known about things said on here. I hope this person watches Mia's video and sees how sick she is after 10 days. Maybe then they'll rethink being friends with her.
Yeah that's evident after you read other posts here about Topnotch.
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And, I know there is someone on here that goes back and reports to Susan. And, it is a donating member. It's happened many times that Susan has known about things said on here. I hope this person watches Mia's video and sees how sick she is after 10 days. Maybe then they'll rethink being friends with her.
That's good then....she needs to know you won't be quiet about this!

I thinks it's telling of these breeders (generally show breeders) that think YT is so beneath them, that we are all "just pet owners" and so ignorant (I've heard this from them before). But as soon as their name is brought up on YT, do they ever hear about it and are usually quick to create an account to defend themselves, if not that then, their "reporter" will make sure to defend them. I've even heard of breeders that warned puppy buyers to not join or stay off of YT, because we didn't know what we were talking about here.
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I'm a show exhibitor and a member of YTCA and this site isn't below me. I know you didn't single me out but there are a couple of us that are here and members
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I know Donna, that's one of the reasons even though we disagree on some things, I've always respected you. You do come here and try to educate us, and have never treated anyone as though we are stupid. You, Pat, Gail, Mary and a couple of others I know I'm not remembering now are appreciated for being here and all you do to make this site informative...and fun!
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Jrsy you have known these women since 2007. You have or had 3 dogs that came from them. Tia, Brooklyn and now Mia
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...rsey-help.html
Here you and everyone was warned that Susan is a broker and sells all sorts of breeds.
You defended her.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...r-nj-pa-2.html
Post 19......Post 24 Here in Sept. of 2010 you continue to defend her.

There are threads over and over on YT about top knotch, colorsilk and tanglewood where people warn you.

You knew full well who you were dealing with. This is sad, so sad.

You have come on here and defended these horrible breeders for 3 years. I just don't understand with all the posting and knowledge you have, yet why would you ignore all the warnings about these breeders that you got.

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Im sorry she is sick and really hope she gets better real soon. She looks like such a sweet girl. I know we can get attached so fast. I just don't get it though. You wanted a tiny and said you knew how to care for them. You knew she had been sick prior. You took her to the vet on the way home. She was found unfit for sale. The breeder offered to return the pup for a refund. It had only been a few days and you refused. I just don't see how you can take her to court and win. Maybe it's just me but if I would have paid $1800 I would have turned around that day and returned her.
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I know Donna, that's one of the reasons even though we disagree on some things, I've always respected you. You do come here and try to educate us, and have never treated anyone as though we are stupid. You, Pat, Gail, Mary and a couple of others I know I'm not remembering now are appreciated for being here and all you do to make this site informative...and fun!
Well we try Thank you for your support and respect
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I am so sorry your baby is so sick. I know she will get the best of care now with you. I hope you get some resolution and that your baby makes a full recovery.
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Jrsy you have known these women since 2007. You have or had 3 dogs that came from them. Tia, Brooklyn and now Mia
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...rsey-help.html
Here you and everyone was warned that Susan is a broker and sells all sorts of breeds.
You defended her.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...r-nj-pa-2.html
Post 19......Post 24 Here in Sept. of 2010 you continue to defend her.

There are threads over and over on YT about top knotch, colorsilk and tanglewood where people warn you.

You knew full well who you were dealing with. This is sad, so sad.

You have come on here and defended these horrible breeders for 3 years. I just don't understand with all the posting and knowledge you have, yet why would you ignore all the warnings about these breeders that you got.

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Breezeway. Tia came second hand to me. I did not buy her from Susan. I got her from someone that bought her from Susan then rehomed her. In 2007 I did warn people that Susan was a broker, but through the years developed a friendship with her and although didn't agree with her AT THE TIME that she brokered did respect her for at the least providing me with info. on Tia that the previous owner did not supply.

The past I guess year or two she said she does not broker anymore. She talked to me about the breeding program she developed in which she places pups with families and then breeds them at the right age. She said she breeds them three times then has them spayed and the pups are the families to keep after that. She said that it is a nice program because then the dogs do not live in kennels. I thought it was a great program. And, yes I defended her on several occassions after that.

I have rescues and decided that I would like a Yorkie that would be small, and have that show type of look that so many on here have. Through conversation last year, Susan sent me a picture of Brooklyn, called Kissie then. I fell in love with her. She was what they called a Stud Fee pup. We took her and I had some issues yes, but nothing major. She had a cough and I was told that it was from the kennel cough vaccine. Susan told me about the cough upfront and that it would linger. I took Brooke to the vet and the vet put her on an antibiotic as he was not too sure that he believed it came from the vaccine. Since, that time we have had no issues with Brooke. I was hesitant to get another from her yes, and so I contacted Glenda direct as I really liked her and since I had contacted several breeders including the show breeder reccomended by YTCA. I didn't see anything that made that breeder any better, especially when they wanted to sell me a pup with an open font. I decided to see if I could deal one on one with Glenda since her site said SHE not Susan transports to NJ every four to six weeks.

I got a picture of Mia, and fell in love with her. She looked so much like Brooke. THEN she said that Susan had dibs on them. Well, honestly I felt that at least I would be able to see her first rather then buy her and then maybe have her arrive and not be what I was expecting. Very hard to buy a dog without seeing her first.

When Mia came to NJ I was told she had a cough and Susan said she was holding her for a bit. I have emails to this fact. At one point I said to her that I was going to wait until tax return to buy her as I didn't have all the cash due to a car repair. We were going to wait and keep looking to be honest, but I couldn't stop thinking about her. We went back and forth with Susan and on 12/28 we went to see Mia. She wanted $2000 for her and I brought $1800 cash with me, and decided that if it was meant to be it would. I offered her the $1800 cash and she accepted. We were only with Mia about 20 minutes or so and I heard no cough and Susan said the cough was clear but she was keeping her on Clavamox for a week in case. Driving home we realized there was something wrong and took her straight to the vet.

I was wrong for buying her and Ive admitted that. I did not buy three from her. I bought Brooklyn and Mia. Tia was not bought from Susan, but did originate from her. She came from Brazil and no I did not believe Susan when she said that it wasn't a mill and still don't but did think she cleaned her act up by developing her own breeding program and so I gave her credit for that.

I am not looking to fight about this or crying about getting a sick pup. I am posting so that others can learn from it and so that people are warned. You can judge me, I deserve it but please don't take away from the fact that the pup is sick and others need to see this and know the facts about who these people are.

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