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Old 07-01-2010, 08:27 PM   #106
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Why? Why forward any e-mails to anyone? If you would have put this much effort in your research before buying, then we all wouldn't be enjoying this entertaining thread this evening!

What we can learn from this is don't take anyones word for anything. You don't just trust a stranger for any reason. As Mardelin says, Her stock was untested and unproven, so why choose her? Because it was convenient, cheap, impulsive,who know or cares for that matter. Someone contacted you just to give you this terrific information from the goodness of their heart, do you think it was because they cared about your breeding program? Or for you for that matter? As an upcoming breeder in this tough world don't be so naive. The person who contacted you is enjoying this, but dont' ever think it was because they cared about you. It was personal.
I've already had this conversation with Renee and she's learned a hard lesson.
Yes, she was in a hurry and nieve. But, why did the breeder take advantage of that. Disreputable.


What do you mean the person that contacted Renee', it appears you know more about this person breeding program.
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I've already had this conversation with Renee and she's learned a hard lesson.
Yes, she was in a hurry and nieve. But, why did the breeder take advantage of that. Disreputable.


What do you mean the person that contacted Renee', it appears you know more about this person breeding program.
Go back to post #1. It states it clearly that it was brought to her attention. So anyone who can read knows everything that I know.

So what is a reputable breeder? You?

Would you sell Renee a brood bitch only? You are speaking of a reputable breeder what about a responsible buyer of a brood bitch?

So we have unreputable(breeder) and irresponsible(buyer)

I don't know any reputable breeder that would sell the OP a dog. It is a small group of people that are willing to sell for brood only, so they don't have a ton of reputable breeders to choose from do they?
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Go back to post #1. It states it clearly that it was brought to her attention. So anyone who can read knows everything that I know.

So what is a reputable breeder? You?

Would you sell Renee a brood bitch only? You are speaking of a reputable breeder what about a responsible buyer of a brood bitch?

So we have unreputable(breeder) and irresponsible(buyer)

I don't know any reputable breeder that would sell the OP a dog. It is a small group of people that are willing to sell for brood only, so they don't have a ton of reputable breeders to choose from do they?
Nasty! Very uncall for!
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Nasty! Very uncall for!
I agree it is pretty forward and blunt, but it doesn't mean it is not true. I just know that most reputable breeders strive to ready dogs for the show ring, and they intrust some of their best to the best qualified buyers that agree and commit by contracts to show their lines. Everything else is sold as a pet to be spayed or nuetered, because if it doesn't meet breed standard than it is not to be bred. Wouldn't you agree?
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I agree it is pretty forward and blunt, but it doesn't mean it is not true. I just know that most reputable breeders strive to ready dogs for the show ring, and they intrust some of their best to the best qualified buyers that agree and commit by contracts to show their lines. Everything else is sold as a pet to be spayed or nuetered, because if it doesn't meet breed standard than it is not to be bred. Wouldn't you agree?
I do agree. Apologize for misunderstand. I thought you meant because Renee is not good doggie owner. Perhaps what you meant was a reputable breeder would not sell doggie with full registration unless they were their mentor?
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I do agree. Apologize for misunderstand. I thought you meant because Renee is not good doggie owner. Perhaps what you meant was a reputable breeder would not sell doggie with full registration unless they were their mentor?
That is what I meant. Also I just saw your post in Yorkie showing. You are the type of person that reputable breeders want to place their dogs. You are willing to take the time, educate yourself, ask questions, and then look for a dog. Breeding and reproduction is not your first priority, rather the love of the breed itself, and what comes with it. I watched the video sent to you by Daniel, All breeds have problems in their lines, you just have to find the best specimen you can. Will you be visiting America? Maybe the big specialty in New York?
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That is what I meant. Also I just saw your post in Yorkie showing. You are the type of person that reputable breeders want to place their dogs. You are willing to take the time, educate yourself, ask questions, and then look for a dog. Breeding and reproduction is not your first priority, rather the love of the breed itself, and what comes with it. I watched the video sent to you by Daniel, All breeds have problems in their lines, you just have to find the best specimen you can. Will you be visiting America? Maybe the big specialty in New York?
Thank you for lovely thing say.

Yes, in not to distant future I actually will be going on a trip around world to study yorkie in different country. Very exciting!

Sorry to go off topic, we back on topic now.
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You don't seem to be getting IT either. It's not about the money. It's the fact that the breeder LIED.

Once someone lies to me, I feel I can no longer believe anything they say. Eventhough some of what they say might be true, how do I know for sure what is the truth and what is a lie.

It's about honesty and ethics, not about the money.
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That may be an observation, but it was made in a cruel way....to harm someone further and there was no need for it. I just can't believe how so many of you keep on kicking a person when they are down.
What about all the pups? Who cares about the person! Am I suppose to feel sorry for this Breeder after she lied to Renee and others and sells her pups for $1500!
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Ah! But, do you see another mistruth.....she's still breeding the same female, the female just wheped puppies on the 27th. That's on her website for the world to see.
I have to respond to this Mary. The girl that just whelped IS NOT the one that I took out of my breeding program that threw the open font. That was Ms, Sadie and she is not even on my website. Lacy is the one that just whelped. Lacy is no kin to Ceeby at all.
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For one to put truth behind what is highlighted....one would have to ask Dee themselves....Dee's website, as of today, has all the photo's and Nursery info deleted....
Actually if you look there is a whole website there. i did make it invisable last night for a few hours no reason other to keep all you guys who have been storming it, off. Same as before. Again, Sadie is the one that had the litter about this time last year and was removed from my program. She is not on there and was removed last year. Lacy is the one that just whelped.

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Why would you not want people to see your pups if they not from same dam? Why the secrecy?
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Actually if you look there is a whole website there. i did make it invisable last night for a few hours no reason other to keep all you guys who have been storming it, off. Same as before. Again, Sadie is the one that had the litter about this time last year and was removed from my program. She is not on there and was removed last year. Lacy is the one that just whelped.

you didn't do a very good job of making it invisible. i was still able to view the entire website by the magic of "google".
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you didn't do a very good job of making it invisible. i was still able to view the entire website by the magic of "google".
Then you can verify that it is exactly the same as it was before!!
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Why would you not want people to see your pups if they not from same dam? Why the secrecy?
There is no secrecy and I do not care for people seeing my pups. There are no pictures of the pups yet only an announcment. I just got aggravated.

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