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Disney 07-02-2010 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 3183951)
There is no secrecy and I do not care for people seeing my pups. There are no pictures of the pups yet only an announcment. I just got aggravated.

I am done
When I go it says no puppies. Sorry I'm so confuse.

jacobsmom 07-02-2010 03:56 AM
wow
 
I tried posting on this site last night. And mine wasnt there. Yet it is still going. I read the whole thing three times frankly because I considered contacting this breeder for a puppy. You all should be ashamed it seems to be both have stated their points well and that should be it. the Bull crapp that this is to educate people I cant see where talking about some more woman fiancial wows, or naming names and leaving tag is educatiing anyone on anything except for How to really kick someone when they are down. I believe that as show breeder, buyer or seller. You need to do you own (keyword own) research when buying a dog. I find it amazing how you are so quick to judge this dee person. Yet no one has said a work about the breeder of Ceepy, or sadie it think Who bred these dogs from the begining did this woman. I was just curious I went to her web page and looked at some pedigree looks like she bought them somewhere didnt bred them her self. I see where she offered to give money back when she could, or a puppy you refused to that ends that have a good day be nice

Yorkie3 07-02-2010 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jacobsmom (Post 3183960)
I tried posting on this site last night. And mine wasnt there. Yet it is still going. I read the whole thing three times frankly because I considered contacting this breeder for a puppy. You all should be ashamed it seems to be both have stated their points well and that should be it. the Bull crapp that this is to educate people I cant see where talking about some more woman fiancial wows, or naming names and leaving tag is educatiing anyone on anything except for How to really kick someone when they are down. I believe that as show breeder, buyer or seller. You need to do you own (keyword own) research when buying a dog. I find it amazing how you are so quick to judge this dee person. Yet no one has said a work about the breeder of Ceepy, or sadie it think Who bred these dogs from the begining did this woman. I was just curious I went to her web page and looked at some pedigree looks like she bought them somewhere didnt bred them her self. I see where she offered to give money back when she could, or a puppy you refused to that ends that have a good day be nice

Finally....someone who gets it!! It's quite obvious the breeders reputation is badly damaged if not ruined, but that's not enough for these people...they want blood too.
Fine example of why there is no peace in the world...there can't even be peace on this forum.....9 freaking pages of this. Isn't anyone willing to stop this madness?

Disney 07-02-2010 04:20 AM
Don't blame this thread on problem in world! I ask question because I'm learning about reputable breeding and other ask question because they want healthy puppy and honestly from breeder.

BaxtersMommy 07-02-2010 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Yorkie3 (Post 3183965)
Finally....someone who gets it!! It's quite obvious the breeders reputation is badly damaged if not ruined, but that's not enough for these people...they want blood too.
Fine example of why there is no peace in the world...there can't even be peace on this forum.....9 freaking pages of this. Isn't anyone willing to stop this madness?
That is ridiculous. Renee wants blood? That is why she waited a year. Please. Everything here needed to come out into the open. Peace in the world? Sorry, this is a breeder review & sometimes things can't stay candy coated. IMO

JeanieK 07-02-2010 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Doodlebop (Post 3183818)
Why? Why forward any e-mails to anyone? If you would have put this much effort in your research before buying, then we all wouldn't be enjoying this entertaining thread this evening!

What we can learn from this is don't take anyones word for anything. You don't just trust a stranger for any reason. As Mardelin says, Her stock was untested and unproven, so why choose her? Because it was convenient, cheap, impulsive,who know or cares for that matter. Someone contacted you just to give you this terrific information from the goodness of their heart, do you think it was because they cared about your breeding program? Or for you for that matter? As an upcoming breeder in this tough world don't be so naive. The person who contacted you is enjoying this, but dont' ever think it was because they cared about you. It was personal.
I thifnk it is pretty unfair to turn this around and make it Renee's fault. She already admitted that she shlould have done more research.

This is not an excuse, just stating the reality. But if you don't want to show dogs, you cannot buy from show breeders. this does not mean that you don't want to improve your breedng stock, and breed the best yorkies possible. For a variety of reasons, show is not possible for everyone.

I've heard all the improving the breed, you have to show to know if your dog is suitable to breed blah blah blah, so save your fingers.

The reality is there are many good people that would love to start with show quality stock, but you can't if you don't show.

bchgirl 07-02-2010 05:40 AM
Oh this thread has been educational alright...albeit perhaps not in the manner originally intended

JeanieK 07-02-2010 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Disney (Post 3183863)
Thank you for lovely thing say. :)

Yes, in not to distant future I actually will be going on a trip around world to study yorkie in different country. Very exciting!

Sorry to go off topic, we back on topic now.
Disney I thought you were a teenager?

JeanieK 07-02-2010 05:44 AM
The reason it is still going on is because someone is trying to turn this around and make it Renee's fault, when she has already taken responsibility for not having done enough research.

I have yet to see Dee' take responsibility for her Lies.


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Originally Posted by jacobsmom (Post 3183960)
I tried posting on this site last night. And mine wasnt there. Yet it is still going. I read the whole thing three times frankly because I considered contacting this breeder for a puppy. You all should be ashamed it seems to be both have stated their points well and that should be it. the Bull crapp that this is to educate people I cant see where talking about some more woman fiancial wows, or naming names and leaving tag is educatiing anyone on anything except for How to really kick someone when they are down. I believe that as show breeder, buyer or seller. You need to do you own (keyword own) research when buying a dog. I find it amazing how you are so quick to judge this dee person. Yet no one has said a work about the breeder of Ceepy, or sadie it think Who bred these dogs from the begining did this woman. I was just curious I went to her web page and looked at some pedigree looks like she bought them somewhere didnt bred them her self. I see where she offered to give money back when she could, or a puppy you refused to that ends that have a good day be nice

chachi 07-02-2010 06:41 AM
This tagging is getting old and its getting obvious who did it.

BonBon 07-02-2010 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3184107)
This tagging is getting old and its getting obvious who did it.
I keep forgetting about the tags. There are a lot of them on this thread.

JeanieK 07-02-2010 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BonBon (Post 3184139)
I keep forgetting about the tags. There are a lot of them on this thread.
I don't think they should be allowed. they serve no real purpose and it is definitely abused.

bchgirl 07-02-2010 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3184143)
I don't think they should be allowed. they serve no real purpose and it is definitely abused.
The purpose of tags is should someone google that word or phrase...this thread will come up.

rbelland 07-02-2010 08:15 AM
I think this has become a battle of who was right and who was wrong. We were both wrong. It's all in how you handle it after.

JeanieK 07-02-2010 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3184154)
The purpose of tags is should someone google that word or phrase...this thread will come up.
Oh I know what they are for, but it is also used as a means of harassment on here.

chachi 07-02-2010 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rbelland (Post 3184159)
I think this has become a battle of who was right and who was wrong. We were both wrong. It's all in how you handle it after.
That is very big of you to say. I hope Dee follows up and does return your money. I know that doesnt repair all the wrongs but its a start. I wish you success in your breeding program

chachi 07-02-2010 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3184154)
The purpose of tags is should someone google that word or phrase...this thread will come up.
Yea I know. Someone went too far when they put in her first and last name. That is beyond mean ans spiteful

Nancy1999 07-02-2010 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3184169)
Yea I know. Someone went too far when they put in her first and last name. That is beyond mean ans spiteful
Why do you think it's mean and spiteful to put a breeders real name on a tag? Everyone tells us to research, research, reseach, but if a breeder doesn't use their real name, how do you do that? It's really easy to change the name of a website, or a yorkietalk user name, not as easy to change your real name. A breeder who sells on Yorkietalk should use their real name, and if they won't, that tell me so much about their breeding program.

bchgirl 07-02-2010 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rbelland (Post 3184159)
I think this has become a battle of who was right and who was wrong. We were both wrong. It's all in how you handle it after.


Isn't it though.

blueskies 07-02-2010 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rbelland (Post 3183674)
Correction - Dee was aware of Thang 1\'s open font. Who was prior to Jazzy.

You are missing the whole POINT!!! I am not trying to convince you or anyone of anything. Dee has been dishonest with me from the start. What part of that don\'t you get?<img src="http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" smilieid="8" class="inlineimg" />

As far as Dee taking the female out of her breeding program? When did she do that? June 27, 2010 the same day she just had her current litter.

For someone who has not even PM\'ed Dee, you know an awful lot about her breeding program.
I was going to mention this as well. She did NOT remove the dogs from her breeding program. She is still breeding Ceeby. She is still breeding Ceeby\'s daughter Sadie. She also has two females out of Sadie that she kept. I am assuming she is breeding them as well, unless she has sold them. I think this is the problem. Every breeder has a problem or two come up at some point. It\'s how they deal with it that makes the difference. This breeder having these issues in her lines and continuing to perpetuate the problem speaks volumes of her character.

BonBon 07-02-2010 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3184055)
Oh this thread has been educational alright...albeit perhaps not in the manner originally intended
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 3184176)
Isn't it though.
I'm confused by your posts. Do you know something we don't?

chachi 07-02-2010 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3184173)
Why do you think it's mean and spiteful to put a breeders real name on a tag? Everyone tells us to research, research, reseach, but if a breeder doesn't use their real name, how do you do that? It's really easy to change the name of a website, or a yorkietalk user name, not as easy to change your real name. A breeder who sells on Yorkietalk should use their real name, and if they won't, that tell me so much about their breeding program.
Because I dont think Renee's purpose for starting this thread was to ruin Dees name over the entire internet. Nor do I think what Dee has done warrants it. I agree she should have let her know about the open font. but she is now saying she is going to refund Renees monies and there have also been efforts to do it in the past. IM not taking a side beI see both sides but I think the tagging and using nameswas mean and cruel and its all of the sudden became commonplace on here

JeanieK 07-02-2010 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3184173)
Why do you think it's mean and spiteful to put a breeders real name on a tag? Everyone tells us to research, research, reseach, but if a breeder doesn't use their real name, how do you do that? It's really easy to change the name of a website, or a yorkietalk user name, not as easy to change your real name. A breeder who sells on Yorkietalk should use their real name, and if they won't, that tell me so much about their breeding program.
When you list a dog for sale on YT, you have to use your real name.

JeanieK 07-02-2010 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3184216)
Because I dont think Renee's purpose for starting this thread was to ruin Dees name over the entire internet. Nor do I think what Dee has done warrants it. I agree she should have let her know about the open font. but she is now saying she is going to refund Renees monies and there have also been efforts to do it in the past. IM not taking a side beI see both sides but I think the tagging and using nameswas mean and cruel and its all of the sudden became commonplace on here
Yes it has, I've even seen posters remind others to put in tags. Just seems a bit excessive to me.

Nancy1999 07-02-2010 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3184216)
Because I dont think Renee's purpose for starting this thread was to ruin Dees name over the entire internet. Nor do I think what Dee has done warrants it. I agree she should have let her know about the open font. but she is now saying she is going to refund Renees monies and there have also been efforts to do it in the past. IM not taking a side beI see both sides but I think the tagging and using nameswas mean and cruel and its all of the sudden became commonplace on here
People can read the thread and come to their own conclusions.

chachi 07-02-2010 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3184221)
Yes it has, I've even seen posters remind others to put in tags. Just seems a bit excessive to me.
I agree I quess its the new form of bullying and harrassment. I dont agree with Dee at all but I dont think whats been done to her is right either

YorkyDiva 07-02-2010 10:11 AM
Many of you all are to be commended for studying pedigrees, genetics, ethics, etc, just as Dee has done and is evident by her posts and pedigrees of the dogs she has that came from many well known show lines.

However, I feel some here still need schooling in the areas of tact, human kindness, compassion and just basic love for the emotions and well being of others.

Nancy1999 07-02-2010 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3184244)
I agree I quess its the new form of bullying and harrassment. I dont agree with Dee at all but I dont think whats been done to her is right either
Breeders here have been using tags on their nursery threads so that people could find their threads through google. Tags can help them sell their dogs, so they should also be used to inform people about breeding practices.

chachi 07-02-2010 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 3184253)
Breeders here have been using tags on their nursery threads so that people could find their threads through google. Tags can help them sell their dogs, so they should also be used to inform people about breeding practices.
I dont see anything wrong with that it is how they are being used now that is wrong. If I see that someone who does it actually posts on the thread and says they are going to tag that person then I wont think its so cowardly. Then it will be in the open and members of the forum can decide for themselves if its right or wrong

chachi 07-02-2010 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3184262)
I dont see anything wrong with that it is how they are being used now that is wrong. If I see that someone who does it actually posts on the thread and says they are going to tag that person then I wont think its so cowardly. Then it will be in the open and members of the forum can decide for themselves if its right or wrong
I take that back I dont even like them used for that reason because its like they are advertising for puppies. To be honest I wish they would get rid of the tags


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