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Nikki+2 09-14-2007 09:21 AM

The mother and father are gorgeous! Congrats on your litter and I'll be looking forward to lots of pictures!:)

Julz 09-14-2007 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mistyinca (Post 1369346)
When Chloe was a brand new puppy, she had a teeny little tip of white on one of her back feet. It has since been snipped off. Does that count?


No, many Yorkies are born with white on their chests and their feet....it doesn't mean they are carriers. It almost always grows out with their adult coat.

xxmxaxrxyxx 09-14-2007 09:38 AM

wow how adorable...keep the pictures rolling in...kekek...i love pictures...and congrats on your new litter!!!!

donnarod 09-14-2007 11:09 AM

Purebread white yorkie litter this morning.
 
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Originally Posted by RubenO (Post 1368302)
Lets see if this works...

I can't believe that those babies came from those parents!!!

RubenO 09-14-2007 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by donnarod (Post 1369654)
I can't believe that those babies came from those parents!!!

Neither can I! :D

RubenO 09-14-2007 11:32 AM

Well it's day two. The Parti and regular puppy are doing very well. They are both feeding from the mother now and the stomachs are growing bigger.

The parti was being hand fed yesterday but we finally got her to accept the mother for feeding. Now I can sleep better at night. :)

The mother also has a white spot on her chin as well as her chest being all white and her 2 back feet.

I have allot of people contacting me wanting to buy the parti but we are going to keep her as she is quite special. We may be selling her brother once he is old enough and he may be a carrier of the parti but I have to do more research on that as I am obviously new to this.

We already have 4 terriers now (1 fixed 12lb. Silky Terrier boy, Jasmine the Dam, Benji the Sire, and Minni the daughter from their last litter.)

If it was up to my wife, we would keep them all, but it comes to a point where you have to keep it realistic :)

Ideally, I don't mind keeping 3 - 4 of them all together but I may have to send my 9 month old girl from the previous litter to a new home as well as the boy from this litter. I try very hard to not get so attached, but it never seems to work as they really become part of your life.

Ruben

Julz 09-14-2007 01:49 PM

I'm so glad all is going well! It is sooooo very hard when it doesn't happen in the natural order of things. Glad to hear both pups are nursing nicely. Isn't it surprising how big their bellies get so fast! They always remind me of little baby hippos. Huge belly and tiny little legs with chubby hippo thighs. God, I just LOVE it!!

KathyinCali 09-14-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Julz (Post 1367967)
look at these.....


OMG I've never seen these before. Precious!

TammyJM 09-14-2007 07:24 PM

Ruben~

Your puppies are adorable...I don't blame you and your wife for wanting to keep them!! Your parti baby's markings remind me of my Livi when she was tiny. If you type in Livi in the search box you will see lots of her pictures....might give you an idea of what your sweet baby will look like. Your baby even looks like she has gold markings above one eye,more than the other. Livi has the same thing, only hers is over the opposite as your baby. I have a thread on here of her at 3 weeks old (and on up) and your puppy does remind me of her.

Have lots of fun with your newest additions! :)

Tammy)

diggy4 09-14-2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 1370600)
Ruben~

Your puppies are adorable...I don't blame you and your wife for wanting to keep them!! Your parti baby's markings remind me of my Livi when she was tiny. If you type in Livi in the search box you will see lots of her pictures....might give you an idea of what your sweet baby will look like. Your baby even looks like she has gold markings above one eye,more than the other. Livi has the same thing, only hers is over the opposite as your baby. I have a thread on here of her at 3 weeks old (and on up) and your puppy does remind me of her.

Have lots of fun with your newest additions! :)

Tammy)

I was waiting for u 2 see this!!! Isnt it just amazing! I wouldnt sell them either!

TammyJM 09-14-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by diggy4 (Post 1370605)
I was waiting for u 2 see this!!! Isnt it just amazing! I wouldnt sell them either!

Very amazing and exciting! :) For those that say it isn't possible....this thread is a must read. :rolleyes:

As for the genectics of it all....Sue ("pinehaven") explained it perfectly!

Tammy

TammyJM 09-14-2007 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by diggy4 (Post 1370605)
I was waiting for u 2 see this!!! Isnt it just amazing! I wouldnt sell them either!

Very amazing and exciting! :) For those that say it isn't possible....this thread is a must read. :rolleyes:

As for the genetics of it all....Sue ("pinehaven") explained it perfectly!

Tammy

RubenO 09-14-2007 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 1370600)
Ruben~

Your puppies are adorable...I don't blame you and your wife for wanting to keep them!! Your parti baby's markings remind me of my Livi when she was tiny. If you type in Livi in the search box you will see lots of her pictures....might give you an idea of what your sweet baby will look like. Your baby even looks like she has gold markings above one eye,more than the other. Livi has the same thing, only hers is over the opposite as your baby. I have a thread on here of her at 3 weeks old (and on up) and your puppy does remind me of her.

Have lots of fun with your newest additions! :)

Tammy)

Your Livi is incredibly beautiful, I think you are right, she is going to look like her! I saw the pictures when you got her and her recent pictures too!

Do you think the brother of my litter a parti carrier? How about the previous litter we had with the same Dam and Sire?

Ruben

candybaby 09-14-2007 08:44 PM

Hi, Ruben

I Pm'd you :) I also wanted to ask where did you get the parents?? Does the breeder have a web-site?? What beautiful babies you have, I love how the parents look...




Thanks,

Connie 09-14-2007 09:30 PM

Wow! A big congrats to you! What a fun surprise to get yourself a little precious parti! I'm anxious to see pictures as she grows! The parent dogs are so beautiful! Those babies are going to be too!!!

RubenO 09-14-2007 09:34 PM

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Here are some more pictures tooken 10 minutes ago...

RubenO 09-14-2007 09:35 PM

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2 more...

RubenO 09-14-2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by candybaby (Post 1370680)
Hi, Ruben

I Pm'd you :) I also wanted to ask where did you get the parents?? Does the breeder have a web-site?? What beautiful babies you have, I love how the parents look...




Thanks,

Yes, I got a few PMs and I will try to get back to everyone tomorrow.

Thanks for all the Love!

Ruben

RubenO 09-14-2007 09:43 PM

My biggest question is should I dock the tail of the Parti? Some people said no, others said yes. I prefer a docked tail myself and my wife loves them either way :D.

The Parti has black/brown on one side of her face and just black on the other.

As sad as it is, I took pictures of the white boy that passed away as well if anyone cares to see him.

Here is a great site with allot of pictures of some puppy Parti Yorkies http://www.crownridgegems.com/yorkie_puppies.htm

Ruben

Judy in Waco 09-15-2007 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RubenO (Post 1370709)
My biggest question is should I dock the tail of the Parti? Some people said no, others said yes. I prefer a docked tail myself and my wife loves them either way :D.

The Parti has black/brown on one side of her face and just black on the other.

As sad as it is, I took pictures of the white boy that passed away as well if anyone cares to see him.

Here is a great site with allot of pictures of some puppy Parti Yorkies http://www.crownridgegems.com/yorkie_puppies.htm

Ruben

Congratulations on your two new beautiful babies, and sympathy for the one you lost.

If you are keeping her, the choice would be 100% based on your preference. I am like your wife in that I like both, but I would love to see how the colors on her tail come out. :) Are you thinking about breeding her someday? Would the tail make a difference in that situation?

Thanks for the great pics! :D

Julz 09-15-2007 03:14 AM

Being that it is a Yorkie and not a Biewer, I would dock the tail. I will admit that I dread that day the most out of breeding, but I would still do it. Yorkies get their tails docked, Biewers don't. A Parti is a Yorkie with a color anomaly....but all Yorkie nonetheless.

kindness_001 09-15-2007 06:38 AM

Congrads on your litter..:)

kalina82 09-15-2007 07:50 AM

i wouldn't dock the tail. i believe parti yorkies keep their tails, as do biewers.

kalina82 09-15-2007 08:06 AM

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Oh, and you asked the little boy being a carrier. Based on the litter you produced, BOTH parents have to be carriers to get a parti baby. So the regular yorkie puppy has a 50% chance of being a carrier and a 25% chance of being a standard.

single allele genetics is quite easy when using a punett square. I drew a picture of each one in Pine Haven's explanation for every one to see. She was right, but i have to disagree on her carrier Vs. standard scenario.

an explanation of my drawing for those who don't know. "R" is the dominant gene of standard coloring. "r" is the recessive piebald gene. To get a dominant standard color without being a carrier you need "RR". To be a carrier you need "Rr" and to be a parti you need "rr". the only was recessive genes are ever shown is if they are double recessive "rr". the other letters in my drawing should be easy enough to figure out (s- standard, c-carrier, and p-parti). i hope this helps.




BamaFan121s 09-15-2007 09:37 AM

I don't guess it really matters about the tails. I know that Biewers keep theirs, but I would think that Partis would have them docked.:confused: In actuallity, seeing as Parti is not yet recognized as a standard, I don't think there would really be any standard for keeping or docking the tail either. I mean, the color isn't standard, what would the tail matter...KWIM?
Looks like that choice is completely up to what YOU prefer.:)
Thanks for sharing the pics!

TammyJM 09-15-2007 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1371079)
i wouldn't dock the tail. i believe parti yorkies keep their tails, as do biewers.

No, the parti colored Yorkies have docked tails. They are still all Yorkie,just not the traditional color.

Tammy

MyFairLacy 09-15-2007 10:05 AM

I prefer a docked tail. But since you are keeping the puppy for yourself, it's up to you as to whether or not you are going to dock the tail...which do you prefer?

TLC 09-15-2007 10:10 AM

I would keep the tail - with those colors it's gotta be a beauty ;)

JTuckaway 09-15-2007 11:08 AM

Ruben, SO VERY SORRY to hear of the one who passed over,you WERE BLESSED with a beautiful Parti-Yorkie puppy,while it is true somewhere in the background of the sire or the dam, there was this gene,you may never know
where it popped in.
All too many breeders will not acknowledge they HAD one or more parti puppies in THEIR LITTER,rather than feel blessed they had healthy puppies, they focus on the "woops"some place them without papers,(big secret you see) or some (HEAVEN FORBID,WHICH I THINK IS HORRIBLE) WILL destroy them...to KEEP their secret.
Other times,as was mentioned,breeders will just not list the correct color so it will not show up on the pedigree as a other than normal Yorkie color...sorry but I found this to be true....BUT NO MATTER!
You were blessed with this "special" little fur kid,it might happen with a following litter or you may never see this pop up again in any further litters that are whelped..sometimes...it is a once in a lifetime "gift."
There is no mistake,you DO have a wonderful,little parti-pupper,CONGRATS
and I wish the remaining puppers health...I hope the ma dogger is also doing well. Jan

JTuckaway 09-15-2007 11:35 AM

The carrier genes must be somewhere on BOTH sides for this to throw forward,usually parti bred to parti SHOULD produce all parti BUT since this was a gene that was produced from a normal colored Yorkie,this IS a chance someone could produce a puppy with a little more Yorkie color and less white somewhere down the line....lines for color must be reinforced,if the gene pool is limited,( in the surrounding area)be careful of inbreeding.
There is great discussion on "who contributes what" some will say it "is the stud who sets the litter" I believe it must take both,sire and dam,with qualities and faults from both to contribute to a litter. This does not mean you do not search for the best quality,healthy sire( if you do not have your own) every bitch can get some excellent qualities from studs,darker eyes,better ear sets,size,conformation,smaller ears,good hips,good knees, no liver shunt problems>>>BUT>>> the bitch must also be free of health problems
and she will still give her 2 cents worth in all the puppies born.If not, IF it were just the stud who gives everything to the litter,we'd see 100% exact
duplicates,a "perfect clone" of only the stud... don'tcha think?
So,BOTH of these dogs MUST carry this color gene somewhere in the back-
ground,could be as far back as the 5th generation,could be further back than this BUT IT IS THERE.
IF you are not breeding for health AND JUST A SPACIFIC COLOR, it can be a hit and miss if another parti is born,it could happen once more,it could then stop or it could continue to have one or two born..not knowing the genes and colors behind...unfortunate but there is no guarantee.
Our beautiful Biewers are an example of breeding for health AND COLOR and this was over many generations and YEARS OF HARD WORK,to breed these little wonders!Someone had to do a lot of genetic reseach...again...even IF both parents carry this parti gene..to establish it,will take YEARS OF CAREFUL BREEDING to set and establish the colors as well as maintain health.


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