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06-24-2007, 03:47 PM | #16 | |
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06-24-2007, 04:08 PM | #17 | |
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I'm glad you had fun, doing what you did and it is nice to have someone say nice things about your puppies. A bit of unsolicited advice though. Show breeders have 2 different contracts as well as 2 different prices, show and pet. And I'm sure you've heard some of this. Show contracts are a more stringent because when we sell our show puppies we want them Championed, we have more control over it that way. Not only that we have more control over where the puppies are bred as well as where their offspring is placed. We spend more time raising, training, conditioning and evaluating show puppies before we even deem them show prospects.....Picking out that special puppy by evaluating first at 8 weeks, 12, weeks 4 months, 5 months and really never making a decision until you put them in the ring. You don't know the countless hours I spend, table training them, teaching them to lay still for topknots, stack correctly at the end of a lead, making sure they stand still while people go over them, teaching them how to bait and free stack on the floor, watching them gait, making them walk on wierd patterned carpet, slippery floors, dirt, grass, how to give expression. As you said you'd like your name as breeder on that registration, should that one puppy of yours ever do anything, well the only way you can make sure that puppy is going to do anything is sell it as a show dog with a stringent contract that they will Champion it. There is more aspects to that contract of course, evaluating it various intervals and various times through out it's career. Making sure it's doing something and if not making sure there are stipulations in that contract, if it isn't that it be placed with a professional handler by a certain age......etc.
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06-24-2007, 04:25 PM | #18 | |
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06-24-2007, 04:28 PM | #19 | |
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I don't think they really mind since nothing bad was said and no arguement went on. I think when this type of dicussion goes on it's educational.
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06-24-2007, 04:33 PM | #20 | |
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Remember too that when that show puppy goes out the door, you are responsible too, that it is a show dog. If not you suck it up financially. I will say one thing that you may take offense to, no one that hasn't shown and championed dogs should be selling show puppies. A bit blunt, but how can you know if you have a great representation of the breed unless you've been there.
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06-24-2007, 04:42 PM | #21 |
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| This has been educational. I took Danali to a show today to have Georgette Franzoni go over her. She's only 11 weeks old but I'm checking her out for show potential. We already practise stacking, showing her teeth, and are starting on the leash. She was so good today. Hung out in her crate, met people, held her potty until we got home. Five hours of holding it is really good for a baby. She stacked beautifully for Georgette, she's very balanced and has fantastic attitude. She's breaking a deep color and her ear set, topline, and tail set look great so far. Anything can happen in the next 3 1/2 monthes but we'll see because I was advised to keep a hold of her so I'm gonna keep watching to see what I've got.
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06-24-2007, 04:43 PM | #22 | |
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06-24-2007, 04:51 PM | #23 | |
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06-24-2007, 06:12 PM | #24 |
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| I think I'll show her at a puppy match that is coming up in August, it's a 5 day cluster so it will be some work!! Do you know if I have to have her registered before the match or just before a show.
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06-24-2007, 06:18 PM | #25 | |
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Tami, No you don't have to have her AKC registered before a puppy match. You can even show her under regular classes under her puppy registration, I think for 3 shows. But, it doesn't take long to get her registration back. I sent Tahlulah's out a 2 weeks before she was registered in her 1st show and got it back in a week. Mary
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06-24-2007, 06:57 PM | #26 | |
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So true. We recently drove well over 600 miles round trip just to show a new pup. If you have the determination and the passion, the drive means little. We also had the pleasure of meeting the Franzoni's. AWESOME lady and so is her hubby who I happen to share a name with, lol My poor odometer is going to get a run for its money this summer for sure. Have 4 shows coming up soon that are going to be long trips. But... I love it once I get there! My hubby travels to KY once every year (he is a race car driver) and I had thought of tagging along if there's ever a show on his race weekend. I love to see new places and meet new folks. | |
06-24-2007, 07:05 PM | #27 | |
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06-24-2007, 07:20 PM | #28 | |
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Dinner after the show? What's that? LOL!! A pizza in the room (after my nap) is usually as far as I'm able to drag myself after a long day. I did however enjoy sitting at the hotel bar recently with all the judges. That was very entertaining. | |
06-24-2007, 07:33 PM | #29 | |
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06-24-2007, 07:44 PM | #30 | |
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But I won't...to protect the innocent. | |
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