Females are higher because you can breed them and also because they are in more demand

From what you're saying here the breeders you dealt with were only in it for $$$$.

To be very honest, it's market value.....girls are in demand. My feeling is if you are placing on a limited registration (no breeding rights) both should go for the same amount. Now on open registration, reputable breeders sell their females at a higher amount because they are the jewels of their breeding programs. A good foundation bitch is worth much more than her weight in gold.

It's because the girls can pump out the puppies frankly. You can make a lot more off of a girl than you ever could studding your boy. You can have a lot more harm done to a line by having your girl crank out puppies. This is true in most animal hobbies as well, the females always cost more. It's almost like insurance against making that girl into a puppy farm. I think that girls and boys on limited contracts though should be the same price, but I can see why a breeder would still be afraid of getting burned.

If it were me, boys and girls would be the same price. I wouldn't be able to say either one of my babies is worth more than another because of gender, and since I wouldn't sell to someone I didn't trust, the price "insurance" wouldn't matter anyway. You'll never make money from breeding if you're doing it right, it's just the way it works.

I dont know how anyone can say its not even jsut a little about money other wise no one would breed and sell their puppies. its not like breeders are giving their puppies away so yes it is some what about money. no one here that breeds and sells puppies can say its not about money. other wise puppies would cost how ever much it cost in vet bills and tahts it, but thats not teh case is it? and not only that i do not know how many people have pmed me since joining this sight and putting annas pic on here that have wanted to know where i gt her from cuz they were looking for a male or female that looked like her to put into their breeding stock, with no mention of how healthy my baby was or that my puppy prolly isnt gonna get big enough to breed in teh first place. they were all just wanting a small male or a small female to breed. so you cant tell me everyone is worried about their stock and lienage and the dogs themselves other wise they would not have been willing to breed such a puppy.

Very good point.:thumbup:

[QUOTE=jatango;1041314]It's because the girls can pump out the puppies frankly. You can make a lot more off of a girl than you ever could studding your boy. You can have a lot more harm done to a line by having your girl crank out puppies. This is true in most animal hobbies as well, the females always cost more. It's almost like insurance against making that girl into a puppy farm. I think that girls and boys on limited contracts though should be the same price, but I can see why a breeder would still be afraid of getting burned.

ok frankly from what ive been told on this thread boys and girls according to your whole protecting the line thing that ive heard on here both sexes cause the same damage;. they would both show up on the pedigree right? the puppys dad would be on their as well and if thats still your line the onne you are trying to protect then you cant really use the excuse females make the babies cuz it takes them both. so that balogna. and they both would cause the same amount of damage as you say. to the line. so in turn its more about money cuz girls are wanted more.

Most breeders that do genetic testing, and ultrasounds and see great vets and feed the right nutrition ARE charging you the cost of the bills! Maybe the bills didn't cost them that much this time around, but imagine if the dog needed a C-section, or if she dried up and those pups had to be hand-reared? They charge you for their time and money and expertise, as it should be. The breeders that don't care about stock and lineage aren't worth their salt IMO. From what i've seen so far, yorkies have too many genetic and congenital issues not to test. Seriously, how you could breed two dogs without knowing the likelyhood of liver shunting or other genetic issues and still sleep at night is beyond me.

Who's to say a backyard breeder would even hand out a pedigree? Same with people that breed for petshops. And how did it come about that girls are wanted more? It's not because they're cuter or have less behavioral problems...there must be some reason.

if vet bills are that much and their dog has that many problems with breeding they should stop breeding them. all im saying is someone implied that this wasnt about money and i dont beleive dog breeders would exist if it wasnt. i understand dogs breed thats how they carry on their own doggy lines but when breeders come arround and breed them after eavery other heat etc and think thats fine then claim they dont do it for money is balogna. people are breeding their dogs for money and no one can tell me their not. there is no other reason for it. yes i love dogs yes i paid for my dog and im willing to admit it. but breeders are out tehre to make money for their own private gain. no one i know breeds for kicks. and no one seems to just want to let gods creatures do their own thing and if they make babies then great if they dont then fine too. but not saying theirs anything wrong with it if thats what you want to do just dont sit here and say that in some way its not about money.

exactly girls are wanted more and most breeders think its cuz they can breed and you yourself even said its cuz they can make babies well thats a money issue so you charge more.

No, the pet owners feel that they are easier to potty train and don't mark territory and more loveable. None of these things are true with the yorkie.

There you go!. That is why we sell them without breeding rights. You answered your own question with what you just said. It is for fear of seeing them go to the type of people you just described. The ones that dont care and just want the money.

No, people DEFINITELY breed for money. Those people though, are generally not considered good breeders. People that breed dogs every other heat aren't looking out for the welfare of the dog and definitely aren't trying to improve the breed. In a perfect world, everyone who bred would find the best girl they could get, look around for a boy that would help "fix" the areas that the mother was weak in and make pups that are better than the parents. They would test mom and dad for all of the necessary genetic problems yorkies can have (NOT cheap). They would have regular vet visits during the pregnancy to check on the female. They would have an ultrasound done before the birth. The tests are necessary to make sure that you aren't going to make puppies that end up sick. If you don't test and that happens, that is on YOUR head. You may have well made those puppies sick yourself. They didn't choose to come here, you bred their parents and "created" them. If they get two bad genes because you didn't buy a blood test, that's your fault. I know it sounds harsh, but it's the way I and many other people feel. I know there are lots of reasons that pups get sick that aren't genetically based. If that happens, there's nothing you can do. But wouldn't you want to prevent all the illnesses you could?

I know it's not a nice world and that people do breed for cash. These are the people I try to stay away from or at least not discuss breeding with. I generally lose my cool when that happens.

ok so why does everyone here breed? and dont say its to better your line cuz there would be no reason for that if those bettered puppies werent worth more money either in teh show ring or for a pet or a breeder dog for someone else. cuz if people were not trying to get money or notorioty. they would just be happy with the dogs they have and quit trying to make more. but people want money. so people breed and yes it may or may not better th breed but why try if what we have is already good enough and the only people ive heard talk about bettering the breed were all trying to make their puppies smaller cuz thats why they were all contacting me hey where did you get your puppy we want one that size to breed with our insert male name here. or does the breeder you got her from have any males that size we want to breed her with insert female name here. it was all about size and one of those breeders not mentioning names has posted in this thread posing as a so called we limit our registration breeder. so not to say that some of you arent actually worried about yor dogs are your lines but dont think that all the breeders on here are cuz their not and if you are one of those few who actually are trying to better the breed fine but get off your high horse and stop thnking number one your the only one who can do it and number 2 that every breeder on here or out in the world is just like you.

If you want to see what good ethical breeders are supposed to do, look at the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America's Code of Ethics and Code of Conduct. If you do all the showing and all the advertising and all the testing and pay for a great stud, it's not cheap. The dogs that should be bred are the dogs that have the makings of a great yorkie. This is evaluated in the breed ring where they are given a championship because they are of sound structure and temperament. These are the dogs that should be sold on open registration, and they are worth more. They're a better yorkie by the standard. Pet quality dogs are just as wonderful and just as loved and just as sweet, but they shouldn't be bred.