I'm confused by what you are asking--glad to see I am not the only one ;)--but I'll take a stab at it. What you have described here is what breeders try to avoid. Limited reg will (hopefully) prevent the dog from being bred, or the dog is altered before leaving the breeder or there are certain stipulations written into the sales agreement set up (hopefully, again) to legally require the new owner to have the dog altered.

thanks. sorry i was a pain i get persistent when i want to learn something, i tend to bug people that way. never met to offend or bother but really took in the knowledge appreciated it as well.
thanks

oh no more confusion. im so lost.

Posts from Bama and myself are not directed to you but, to Journey826

I don't think anyone was offended by it. :)

Heck, I'm not offended by this one...I just don't get it...

thanks you have been helpful.

ok sorry to ask another question. but the pedigree thing is that what you can pay more for when you register your puppy with akc. thats what they are talking about right. you can buy the gold or silver package for more and it comes with the pedigree and some other stuff? my breeder lady supposedly mailed my papers to me today so i should get them soon and was wandering i thought it would be interesting to have if that was infact what i would be getting.

I think the only thing you will be getting is the litter registration for your puppy. You will take that and name your puppy and send in your money and that is when you decide which packet you want. I seriously doubt if she did that for you. That will be up to you to do.

I think what you should be getting (actually, you should have gotten them when you got the dog) is the application you will send off to get a packet like you have described.

what im asking is i send the papers i get from the breeder off with 20 dollars and i found somewhere on teh akc website their were otehr packages i could order for more money. i think one came with the perdigree thing right thats where it shows the parents, grandparents right? or is that something else.

Oh, OK...gotcha...yes, you are correct.

thank you i think im full of enough knowledge for tonight. ;)

sounds like you already did it and it doesnt take that long to get them back.

I understand what you are saying...I think:) You're saying that puppies with defects, or not to breed standard should be sold with limited registration. And that even though a dog is sold with limited registration doesn't necessarly mean that it won't be bred, because in most circumstances, if Joe, or Bubba is going to backyard breed or is a puppy mill then, they really don't care if the dog has papers or not, they can still sell the puppies for less money, or register them to another club...So it comes down to, who these breeders are selling their puppies to and do you trust them with your lines, limited registration or not. I don't personally like that someone would say that their puppies are sold with limited registration no matter what. I think there are honest people out there who want to breed, and if you trust this person and know what they are breeding your lines to (assuming that the lines are good, and the pup is a good representation of the breed) then I see no reason not to give them full registration. After all, someone gave "you" a chance, and if all dogs were sold on limited registration then there would be no more yorkies right? And that would just be sad! I don't know if I'm helping or stirring the pot? This is just my opinion and should be taken as just that.:)

And those types of honest people are not the ones that cause the problems and worry ethical breeders. But in order for the breeders to be able to trust the new owners, they have to be able to trust them, right? Which means the new, prospective owners have to prove their dedication and moral stance on breeding, right? That is where mentoring comes into play. That is not where the issues with limited and full registration is.
Yes, everyone had to be given a chance...but they had to 'pay their dues' for lack of better term first. I did it. I'm sure others have as well. Just being willing to fork over the $$$ doesn't give you the right to breed. You've heard the saying, "We reserve the right to refuse service..." Well, same goes for breeders.
But I do understand what you are getting at. Responsibility falls back on the breeder to take whatever measures neccessary to ensure the pup will NOT be bred when it leaves.