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Lorraine · 10-27-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bnot

I know as a "buyer" I would certainly hope a breeder would tell me all the "cosmetic and medical defects" my future puppy would have.

I do not know enough about roach back to answer your questions at all. But seems to me IF it can be passed on....I would certainly not breed that pup. It would be time to neuter, and keep him as a pet. I would definitely not breed any dog who has a defect that could be passed on to the puppies, peroid.

Not trying to sound harsh here, thats just my opinion, only.

I hope you get the answers to the rest of your questions about roach back.

Nope not going to yell at you, LOL
BUt if you truly want a very nice puppy that you want to bring into a breeding program, you really can't buy anything much under 9 months of age as they change so much in that time. Toplines can go off and come back but I wouldn't be paying for a pup that has a topline off that I want to use in my breeding program hoping it will correct. That is up to the breeder to do, hang onto it and 'run it on' meaning wait and see what you have. Bites in an older pup can even go off.
Colour in Yorkies is anotehr big issue as well as size. Size is not more determinable until over 6 months, colour can go light even at a year.
Certainly under six months, except in extreme small or big, the only thing you know for sure is that it is a Yorkie, providing you bought from someone reputable and not someone who actually sold you a cross, and whether it is male or female, little else.

LeaveittoBiewer · 10-27-2006, 01:50 PM

I hope I posted these pics right. If so, what do you guys think?

LeaveittoBiewer · 10-27-2006, 01:52 PM

More pics. The last two are "just because he's so cute pics"

YorkieRose · 10-27-2006, 02:29 PM

It is too hard to tell in a coat that is curly...the hair had to be parted and laying down straight to see to get a correct view..but he is a doll.

ButterflyYorkie · 10-27-2006, 02:54 PM

"Soap" your pup down and comb to get a good view of it's topline.

LeaveittoBiewer · 10-27-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

It is too hard to tell in a coat that is curly...the hair had to be parted and laying down straight to see to get a correct view..but he is a doll.

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Originally Posted by ButterflyYorkie

"Soap" your pup down and comb to get a good view of it's topline.

Oh pooh!! I didn't realize that. Ok, I will get him wet and try and take new pics.

Thanks!

YorkieRose · 10-27-2006, 04:21 PM

How old is Max?

LeaveittoBiewer · 10-27-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

How old is Max?

He is 16 weeks,1 day old.

YorkieRose · 10-27-2006, 05:28 PM

I think he is running large for 16 weeks...he still has alot of growing to do..I am not much into weight. I look at frame first..and his is large for a potential stud...but his color lovely and he looks like a great pet.

LeaveittoBiewer · 10-27-2006, 06:08 PM

I was thinking that too. He weighed 5 lbs 2 oz

at the vet last week and from the calculations that I have been reading, he looks to be at least 7 lbs and over. Looks like I didn't do a very good job in choosing my first stud

. Believe me, I'm learning plenty now! Can I sell him...I mean am I able to...do I really want to?

Perhaps I can find someone local to sell to. It would be nice to keep him near.

LeaveittoBiewer · 10-29-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeaveittoBiewer

Oh pooh!! I didn't realize that. Ok, I will get him wet and try and take new pics.

Thanks!

Ok, I took some pics of him while giving him a bath. I must say, He was VERY well behaved. Anyway, I hope some experienced eyes here can tell if he has a roached back by these pic because to me. sometimes he does and sometimes he doesn't. That's why I took quite a few.

Thanks for looking

LeaveittoBiewer · 10-29-2006, 03:42 PM

Two more pics.

Ladyhawk · 10-29-2006, 04:20 PM

How much did this cutie weigh at 12 weeks. I'm no expert but was told that if you double the 12 week weight you'll get close to the adult weight. They sometimes add a pound for a male (fill out weight)

A low tail set isn't desirable either but can be bred out easier than a bad bite or a bad topline. Connor had a great top line at 18 weeks, went high at the crop at 5 monthes and is now straightening out at 7 monthes.

LittleBits Mom · 10-29-2006, 07:33 PM

I still say to ask your vet. He is the expert and then you will know 100%. Its just so hard to tell with pics and you get a lot of different opinions. Your vet is probably more qualified and can see him a lot better than we can.

txshopper73 · 10-29-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeaveittoBiewer

Ok, I took some pics of him while giving him a bath. I must say, He was VERY well behaved. Anyway, I hope some experienced eyes here can tell if he has a roached back by these pic because to me. sometimes he does and sometimes he doesn't. That's why I took quite a few.

Thanks for looking

No, he does not appear to be roached to me. With a roached back, their hind legs will appear to be longer than their front and there is a definite hump in the back.

10-27-2006, 02:29 PM	#19
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	? It is too hard to tell in a coat that is curly...the hair had to be parted and laying down straight to see to get a correct view..but he is a doll.

10-27-2006, 04:21 PM	#22
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	Max How old is Max?

10-27-2006, 05:28 PM	#24
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	size I think he is running large for 16 weeks...he still has alot of growing to do..I am not much into weight. I look at frame first..and his is large for a potential stud...but his color lovely and he looks like a great pet.

10-27-2006, 06:08 PM	#25
LeaveittoBiewer Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 85	size I was thinking that too. He weighed 5 lbs 2 oz at the vet last week and from the calculations that I have been reading, he looks to be at least 7 lbs and over. Looks like I didn't do a very good job in choosing my first stud . Believe me, I'm learning plenty now! Can I sell him...I mean am I able to...do I really want to? Perhaps I can find someone local to sell to. It would be nice to keep him near.

10-29-2006, 07:33 PM	#29
LittleBits Mom Donating YT Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 671	Ask Your Vet I still say to ask your vet. He is the expert and then you will know 100%. Its just so hard to tell with pics and you get a lot of different opinions. Your vet is probably more qualified and can see him a lot better than we can. __________________ Have a great day!! Jill (LittleBits Mom)

10-27-2006, 02:54 PM	#20
ButterflyYorkie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NC Posts: 743	"Soap" your pup down and comb to get a good view of it's topline.

10-29-2006, 04:20 PM	#28
Ladyhawk YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,808	How much did this cutie weigh at 12 weeks. I'm no expert but was told that if you double the 12 week weight you'll get close to the adult weight. They sometimes add a pound for a male (fill out weight) A low tail set isn't desirable either but can be bred out easier than a bad bite or a bad topline. Connor had a great top line at 18 weeks, went high at the crop at 5 monthes and is now straightening out at 7 monthes.