The Mom is taking the pup in her mouth...

[myjordash]

and carrying it out of the box, and then putting it down on the carpet while she tries to jump on the bed. I think what is happening is she jumped in my bed, then heard the puppies crying so she went in there and took one out and then tried to get back on the bed with the puppy left on the carpet. Is this normal? What can I do to prevent her from doing this? Should I keep the pups and Mom in the same place at night as during the day?

Thanks Again,

Audrey

[Olivier]

Where do you keep her and the pups ?

[Key2Yorkies]

Originally Posted by myjordash

and carrying it out of the box, and then putting it down on the carpet while she tries to jump on the bed. I think what is happening is she jumped in my bed, then heard the puppies crying so she went in there and took one out and then tried to get back on the bed with the puppy left on the carpet. Is this normal? What can I do to prevent her from doing this? Should I keep the pups and Mom in the same place at night as during the day?

Thanks Again,

Audrey

Audrey,
Are you sure she's taking the puppy in her mouth? I'm just wondering because when Roxy wanted to come in our bed at night sometimes she would leave a puppy on the floor because it would not let go of her boob as she left the box. Not that it matters how the puppy got on the floor, I just thought I would mention it. We had a hard time also, it was every night we'ld hear a baby crying. Sure enough one would be on the floor and she would be passed out on our bed. She just loves to sleep with us. What I did was build a little corral around the puppy box that was to high for her to get out of. She didn't like it but she got used to it. Then atleast while the puppies are very small that's where she belongs. She had freedom all day long to go wherever she likes. At night they should be with their babies when we can't keep an eye on them. These Ladies are just so spoiled by us that sometimes they forget they have responsibility now!
Key2Yorkies ~ Jan

[myjordash]

She has always slept in my Mom's shower from a puppy. That is where she decided to whelp eventhough we had the whelping box in another room. She went into the shower and started licking and cleaning it, and then that is where she had the first pup. There is no draft in there at all, and it is the most private, quiet area of the house, however, it is away from the rest of the people. She actually left all the pups, jumped on our bed, lied down, heard the pup crying went back got one in her mouth her the pup down on the carpet right next to the bed, and then tried to jump back on the bed. It didn't seem like anything mean that she was doing to the pup, but I am concerned about leaving her side, in case she does that again. Should I keep the bathroom or shower door closed so that she stays with the pups at all times and isn't able to move them? Should I move the box to another area of the house during the day?

[myjordash]

Originally Posted by Key2Yorkies

Audrey,
Are you sure she's taking the puppy in her mouth? I'm just wondering because when Roxy wanted to come in our bed at night sometimes she would leave a puppy on the floor because it would not let go of her boob as she left the box. Not that it matters how the puppy got on the floor, I just thought I would mention it. We had a hard time also, it was every night we'ld hear a baby crying. Sure enough one would be on the floor and she would be passed out on our bed. She just loves to sleep with us. What I did was build a little corral around the puppy box that was to high for her to get out of. She didn't like it but she got used to it. Then atleast while the puppies are very small that's where she belongs. She had freedom all day long to go wherever she likes. At night they should be with their babies when we can't keep an eye on them. These Ladies are just so spoiled by us that sometimes they forget they have responsibility now!
Key2Yorkies ~ Jan

Thank you for yor response. I am sure she was actually moving the pup herself. She was in the bathroom with the puppies all night and in the morning she started barking. We walked her and then she wanted to jump in our bed so we let her. After a few minutes she heard the pups crying and she jumped off the bed, went in there, and then brought it back into our bedroom and put it down at the foot of the bed on the carpet while she tried to jump back into our bed.

What happens if during the day, while we have the bathroom open she and are cooking, eating, or anything, and she goes in there grabs a pup and takes it behind the TV or into the closet. Should I be allowing her to move the pups, or stop her and tell her NO?

One last thing, this morning around 5 a.m. I heard the babies crying and lied down the Mom and made sure I saw the pups eating. 3 out of 4 pups were interested and sucking away, but the 4th was not interested at all. Should I be concerned? He is not crying, is squirming with the other pups, and otherwise acting normal, but I hate not seeing one of the pups eating when the other 4 are.

Thanks for all your help!

Audrey

[Key2Yorkies]

I would probably keep the closet door shut if possible. she probably won't take one behind the TV , but if she does I would definitely let her know it is wrong. At night I would probably put up a baby gate or something on the bathroom entryway. That way you can still hear and see in and she still is getting air and won't feel claustrophobic.
The last question about the puppy that wasn't eating. I thought the same thing, it turned out it just didn't want to eat when the others did. I would keep an eye on him though. Notice which one it is.. different markings, size, etc. and if he always seems to be the one not eating I would put him on myself, and make sure the others aren't pushing him off. If that doesn't work I would start puppy formula. They have the powdered form that lasts longer. I always use it especially as the puppies get bigger and Mom doesn't seem to produce enough milk. How old are they by the way? Much Luck to You!
I'm jealous I miss my puppies, they all have new homes now!
Key2Yorkies

[myjordash]

Originally Posted by Key2Yorkies

I would probably keep the closet door shut if possible. she probably won't take one behind the TV , but if she does I would definitely let her know it is wrong. At night I would probably put up a baby gate or something on the bathroom entryway. That way you can still hear and see in and she still is getting air and won't feel claustrophobic.
The last question about the puppy that wasn't eating. I thought the same thing, it turned out it just didn't want to eat when the others did. I would keep an eye on him though. Notice which one it is.. different markings, size, etc. and if he always seems to be the one not eating I would put him on myself, and make sure the others aren't pushing him off. If that doesn't work I would start puppy formula. They have the powdered form that lasts longer. I always use it especially as the puppies get bigger and Mom doesn't seem to produce enough milk. How old are they by the way? Much Luck to You!
I'm jealous I miss my puppies, they all have new homes now!
Key2Yorkies

Thank you. They are about 12 hours old. The bathroom they are in is actually very big, with a big walk in shower. They are in an area away from the airvent. I think it is the warmest spot for them and the least busy. One of the babies seemed to have lost his way from the others, and was crying. When we tried to put him on the Mom he didn't want to eat. I am thinking it is the same one that didn't eat earlier, but I could be wrong. I am going to mark them all now with their weights so I can keep better track. The Vet said a scale wasnt necessary and that he would just weigh them, but I see now how WRONG he was. I just went back in, and none of them were crying, they were all climbing on the Mom, and seemed happy although they weren't eating. Do you think they are OK as long as they are not crying? I know the weight gain would be a great sign that all is well, but I won't be able to tell by that till later today, if they even gain in the first day.

I do have puppy milk, and will use it if I need to. I just don't want to jump in too soon.

Thank you, I love this board and everyone on it!

Audrey

[Lacy's Mom]

A chilled puppy won't eat and shouldn't even be bottle fed until warming up. If one won't nurse or gets separated warm him up and give a tad of Nutrical or Nutristat. This usually perks them up enough to have the energy to nurse.

We treat these babies like our children so it isn't surprising that even after becoming Moms they still want their needs met. I had one that was able to jump on the bed with the puppies and she would have preferred they all sleep in my bed! I had to lock her in with the puppies at night.

Keep a close eye on the wanderer.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by myjordash

and carrying it out of the box, and then putting it down on the carpet while she tries to jump on the bed. I think what is happening is she jumped in my bed, then heard the puppies crying so she went in there and took one out and then tried to get back on the bed with the puppy left on the carpet. Is this normal? What can I do to prevent her from doing this? Should I keep the pups and Mom in the same place at night as during the day?

Thanks Again,

Audrey

There are alot more experienced mommys on YT than me but I know with the litter of kittens the stray had under my bed, that I put them in a large crate and kept her kittens in there. She would move them if I didn't, also you might want to put them in a quite place..

[myjordash]

Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

A chilled puppy won't eat and shouldn't even be bottle fed until warming up. If one won't nurse or gets separated warm him up and give a tad of Nutrical or Nutristat. This usually perks them up enough to have the energy to nurse.

We treat these babies like our children so it isn't surprising that even after becoming Moms they still want their needs met. I had one that was able to jump on the bed with the puppies and she would have preferred they all sleep in my bed! I had to lock her in with the puppies at night.

Keep a close eye on the wanderer.

OK, so I SHOULD be giving them the Nutrical this young? I have been giving it to Mom but wasn't sure if it was OK to give to babies yet. Please just clarify this for me before I give it to them. I was going to check with the dr. tomorrow but would like to give it to them today if possible.

Also should I be giving the Mom a 1/2 Tums along with the Nutrical or is the Nutrical enough?

[myjordash]

Originally Posted by peanut

There are alot more experienced mommys on YT than me but I know with the litter of kittens the stray had under my bed, that I put them in a large crate and kept her kittens in there. She would move them if I didn't, also you might want to put them in a quite place..

Thanks, I was thinking of that, but I want the Mom to be able to get in and out comfortably, and I don't want her to jump in, and land on a puppy. Is that a concern with using a higher crate with them this young?

[peanut]

Originally Posted by myjordash

Thanks, I was thinking of that, but I want the Mom to be able to get in and out comfortably, and I don't want her to jump in, and land on a puppy. Is that a concern with using a higher crate with them this young?

I didn't have much problem with the crate cause I have a cloth one that zips on top as well as in the front..& too cats can jump where dogs can't..the momma cat would just jump on the top and go down into the crate..

[peanut]

Most of the wire crates and I know with a cloth one they have a lip on the front so they puppies shouldn't be able to get out until they start walking. I never zip the front one up until they start to walk and try to get out....check Walmart they carry the cloth ones.

[Lacy's Mom]

Originally Posted by myjordash

OK, so I SHOULD be giving them the Nutrical this young? I have been giving it to Mom but wasn't sure if it was OK to give to babies yet. Please just clarify this for me before I give it to them. I was going to check with the dr. tomorrow but would like to give it to them today if possible.

Also should I be giving the Mom a 1/2 Tums along with the Nutrical or is the Nutrical enough?

Yes, it is perfectly okay to give Nutrical to newborns. I personally don't supplement with calcium before or after whelping and have never had a mother with eclampsia yet. If you do some research you will find that calcium and phosphorus have to be given in a certain balance or the mother will become calcium deficient. I do give the Mom cottage cheese though which is high in calcium.

A Word About Supplements

Some veterinarians recommend giving dogs vitamins during pregnancy. Many veterinarians feel that if fed properly, the dog will receive sufficient nutrients through the diet. Either way, don’t add anything to your dog’s diet unless specifically instructed by your veterinarian. Excessive of certain vitamins or minerals can have devastating effects on mom and babies.

Calcium is one supplement that deserves some special attention. Supplementing a pregnant dog is definitely not recommended. Giving calcium supplementation, especially late in pregnancy, has been linked to increasing the risk of eclampsia (low blood calcium) in nursing dogs. Excess calcium has also been linked to difficult deliveries, soft tissue calcium deposits in the puppies and certain joint abnormalities in the pups. For this reason, do not supplement your pregnant dog with calcium unless specifically instructed by your veterinarian.

[myjordash]

Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

Yes, it is perfectly okay to give Nutrical to newborns. I personally don't supplement with calcium before or after whelping and have never had a mother with eclampsia yet. If you do some research you will find that calcium and phosphorus have to be given in a certain balance or the mother will become calcium deficient. I do give the Mom cottage cheese though which is high in calcium.

One more ??. How do you mark to the pups to tell them apart? The Vet said to use string, but I am fearful of tying anything around them. I know someone said Food Coloring, is there any other way that you know of?