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JeanieK 03-17-2006 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiemom1970
I understand what you are saying 100%!

However what if you had a wonderful breeder with a great vet who is always on call, and some kind of CRAZY un-forseen thing happened in the community (lets say a terrorist threat, a tornado, a blizzard, a hurricane, gosh it could go on and on these days) if something like that happened and you COULD NOT get to a vet or get one to you and pups were coming...something was terribly wrong with one and it was suffering beyond belief, what would you do? I haven't found an answer to this question where I'm concerned yet.

I haven't either. Not sure why. I'm sure they grasp the meaning of the term COULD NOT GET TO THE VET. I find it interesting that everyone is so quick to judge what someone else MIGHT do but they are affraid to think of what they themselves might do, if put to the test. Personally I feel sorry for all of the little puppies that many would let suffer so that they would not have to make the decision on how to deal with it.

fl24019 03-17-2006 02:03 PM
Yorkierose posted a little while ago about a situation where she had a bitch in whelp and there was a blizzard and she had to take some extreme actions (with her vet on the phone helping as best as he could) to save her bitch's life.

I think my dilemma would be whether to stay with and take care of the mother and pups that were alive or leave them to take the dying pup to the vet. Do you pack up the mother and pups and take them along?

BamaFan121s 03-17-2006 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRini
As a breeder I would find away to get to a vet. Walk, ride, whatever. Or have the vet come to me. I wouldn't settle...

By they way JanineK none of my posts are directed towards you. So please dont' take them as such :animal-pa
Ditto...both accounts. :thumbup:

fl24019 03-17-2006 02:06 PM
I'm sure that more than one litter of pups were whelped during Katrina.

There were probably some tough decisions made during those times.

Tiggerwit 03-17-2006 02:09 PM
It was a question... simple as that. I read something in a book... what do you think.

No different then the question about tail docking. My friend said this.... is it true?

JeanieK 03-17-2006 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s
Hmmm...maybe this is something you need to ask a non-breeder. If I didn't think I would be able to deal with such situations at ALL times, I wouldn't be breeding.
I guess I am lucky, I live in the South, last snow was 1993.

I guess you are very fortunate that you have never had to make that decision. But there are people out there that might someday have to, and you may be one of them. So what would you do to ease the suffering of a poor helpless animal if you were forced to make that decision. Do you perhaps keep ether on hand to make them unconcious?

Zeus' Mom 03-17-2006 02:10 PM
I wanted to say that I have calmed down a bit and realized that I did jump to conclusions on this post. It just seemed so extreme that I couldn't imagine that people would do this. I do apologize to JeanieK for accusing her of trying to upset. This just seems so inhumane. :(

YorkieRini 03-17-2006 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s
Hmmm...maybe this is something you need to ask a non-breeder. If I didn't think I would be able to deal with such situations at ALL times, I wouldn't be breeding.
I guess I am lucky, I live in the South, last snow was 1993 .
WHATEVER!!! :rolleyes:

JeanieK 03-17-2006 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fl24019
Yorkierose posted a little while ago about a situation where she had a bitch in whelp and there was a blizzard and she had to take some extreme actions (with her vet on the phone helping as best as he could) to save her bitch's life.

I think my dilemma would be whether to stay with and take care of the mother and pups that were alive or leave them to take the dying pup to the vet. Do you pack up the mother and pups and take them along?

And I would add there is a blizzard, do you take them all and risk all of them dying including yourself and your small child that you had to take along with you?. Do breeders keep ether or anything on hand to ease the suffering?

BamaFan121s 03-17-2006 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK
I guess you are very fortunate that you have never had to make that decision. But there are people out there that might someday have to, and you may be one of them. So what would you do to ease the suffering of a poor helpless animal if you were forced to make that decision. Do you perhaps keep ether on hand to make them unconcious?
Already answered that...across the street neighbor, injection in fridge.

BamaFan121s 03-17-2006 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRini
WHATEVER!!! :rolleyes:

:confused: :confused: :confused:

yorkiemom1970 03-17-2006 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK
And I would add there is a blizzard, do you take them all and risk all of them dying including yourself and your small child that you had to take along with you?. Do breeders keep ether or anything on hand to ease the suffering?
No I don't. I've never had to think about it or "do it" in 10 yrs of raising these babies. My vet is always available to me any time day or night (2 miles from my home) Like I said, my track record isn't perfect and I have lost newborns to natural death. I'm still pondering the thought of what I would do in an EXTREME situation where vet care was NOT available. All I do know is the freezor thing would not be an option. So, what would that leave me?

YorkieRose 03-17-2006 02:47 PM
pups
 
Unless the pup is in distress, you can wait until morning...if it is screaming and suffering, I give it a pill...a crushed Valium and they go right to sleep...I asked my MD for a prescription to keep on hand. I have given a pill to several adults who had to be taken to the vet to be put down when old..by the time we got there they were very calm and sedated...

I have known breeders who use the freezer, but there is never a need with medications.

red98vett 03-17-2006 02:51 PM
Now Pat...I think that is very very humane and what a good idea....what's even better is YOU can take a valium too when all settles down ;) ..just kidding...there is no sleep for a breeder with newborns I bet...

Hearing a tiny baby screaming must be just horrible to hear...but that sounds peaceful and humane......why did I know you'd have a great answer here ?

livingdustmops 03-17-2006 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose
Unless the pup is in distress, you can wait until morning...if it is screaming and suffering, I give it a pill...a crushed Valium and they go right to sleep...I asked my MD for a prescription to keep on hand. I have given a pill to several adults who had to be taken to the vet to be put down when old..by the time we got there they were very calm and sedated...

I have known breeders who use the freezer, but there is never a need with medications.
Pat, you are always the voice of reason...thank you.


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