Why Breed?

[shelbysmom]

Thank you.

I did my homework when I was puppy hunting.

[yorkieK9trainer]

I would've posted a long time ago, but I didn't receive an e-mail saying that someone had replied until just now. Huh.

Wow, this ruffled some feathers, huh? I knew I wouldn't be the popular one when I said something that needed to be said, but that's how it goes sometimes.

My appologies to those of you who read my words and misunderstood them. That could be because I typed them wrong (looked good to me) or you're reading them w/ the wrong attitude. That's what makes typing over the internet so dangerous. You can't hear my voice or see my face to base a typical human responce to the words I put out. If you were having a bad day and read what I wrote, you'd come up w/ a different opinion that you may have if you read it when you had your little one curled up next to you and read it. In either case, I've been taken both ways and I can appreciate that. Breeding is something that should be regarding in a high light. Our Yorkies are small in stature (big in heart) and they often are plagued w/ health problems that should've never existed in the numbers they do today due to poor breeding. Genetics are funny, they're a science and too many people are playing scientist. I wish more people would take responsibility for what they're producing. Something that bothered me most is that I BET you, if I brought a puppy miller on this thread, his defense as to why he breeds would be no different than many responses on here and that's what I had a problem w/. Breeding is natural and breeding well is an art-thankfully there is a standard that people should adhere to. And a kennel club to partially help enforce it.

[elegntorchid]

Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

I would've posted a long time ago, but I didn't receive an e-mail saying that someone had replied until just now. Huh.

Wow, this ruffled some feathers, huh? I knew I wouldn't be the popular one when I said something that needed to be said, but that's how it goes sometimes.

My appologies to those of you who read my words and misunderstood them. That could be because I typed them wrong (looked good to me) or you're reading them w/ the wrong attitude. That's what makes typing over the internet so dangerous. You can't hear my voice or see my face to base a typical human responce to the words I put out. If you were having a bad day and read what I wrote, you'd come up w/ a different opinion that you may have if you read it when you had your little one curled up next to you and read it. In either case, I've been taken both ways and I can appreciate that. Breeding is something that should be regarding in a high light. Our Yorkies are small in stature (big in heart) and they often are plagued w/ health problems that should've never existed in the numbers they do today due to poor breeding. Genetics are funny, they're a science and too many people are playing scientist. I wish more people would take responsibility for what they're producing. Something that bothered me most is that I BET you, if I brought a puppy miller on this thread, his defense as to why he breeds would be no different than many responses on here and that's what I had a problem w/. Breeding is natural and breeding well is an art-thankfully there is a standard that people should adhere to. And a kennel club to partially help enforce it.

You think you were misunderstood? I have been gone for several days as I just got a new yorkie and am getting him settled. I came back to find this thread getting UGLY. You have obviously missed the reason that DS children and children with any other disorder are placed with us. To learn compassion , the lesson that you have missed by a long shot. If you had you would not have made such a horrible comment. I commend any parent who has the love and amount of strength it takes to raise the beautiful people (and that is who they are). To bring something like that into this conversation in that manner was tasteless and tacky (to say the least). But explaining this to you would be pointless based on your ability to say such a horrible thing to begin with.
Many people out there have beautiful yorkies without showing them, get over it!!!!!!! I will keep any further comments on your post to myself as it would just be inappropriate to post them.............................

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by elegntorchid

You think you were misunderstood? I have been gone for several days as I just got a new yorkie and am getting him settled. I came back to find this thread getting UGLY. You have obviously missed the reason that DS children and children with any other disorder are placed with us. To learn compassion , the lesson that you have missed by a long shot. If you had you would not have made such a horrible comment. I commend any parent who has the love and amount of strength it takes to raise the beautiful people (and that is who they are). To bring something like that into this conversation in that manner was tasteless and tacky (to say the least). But explaining this to you would be pointless based on your ability to say such a horrible thing to begin with.
Many people out there have beautiful yorkies without showing them, get over it!!!!!!! I will keep any further comments on your post to myself as it would just be inappropriate to post them.............................

I don't think the original poster (which you replied to) is the one that posted about the DS children. Go back and look at the user name. Could be wrong but I don't think it was her.

[elegntorchid]

It was in reply to yorkiek9's comments.

[kim_yorkiemom]

Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

I'm opinionated AND educated! Sorry you only saw one side. I thought I was conversing w/ like minded individuals.

*grr*

It is perimeter (not peramiter) and response (not responce). Just trying to assist you in your gasconade.

[fl24019]

Originally Posted by kim_yorkiemom

It is perimeter (not peramiter) and response (not responce). Just trying to assist you in your gasconade.

Usage Note: The term parameter, which originates in mathematics, has a number of specific meanings in fields such as astronomy, electricity, crystallography, and statistics. Perhaps because of its ring of technical authority, it has been used more generally in recent years to refer to any factor that determines a range of variations and especially to a factor that restricts what can result from a process or policy. In this use it often comes close to meaning “a limit or boundary.” Some of these new uses have a clear connection to the technical senses of the word. For example, the provisions of a zoning ordinance that limit the height or density of new construction can be reasonably likened to mathematical parameters that establish the limits of other variables. Therefore one can say The zoning commission announced new planning parameters for the historic Lamping district of the city. But other uses go one step further and treat parameter as a high-toned synonym for characteristic. Eighty percent of Panelists reject this use of parameter in the example The Judeo-Christian ethic is one of the important parameters of Western culture. ·Some of the difficulties with the nontechnical use of parameter appear to arise from its resemblance to the word perimeter, with which it shares the sense “limit,” though the precise meanings of the two words differ. This confusion probably explains the use of parameter in a sentence such as U.S. forces report that the parameters of the mine area in the Gulf are fairly well established, where the word perimeter would have expressed the intended sense more exactly. This example of a use of parameter was unacceptable to 61 percent of the Usage Panel.

[yorkiemom1970]

Originally Posted by fl24019

Usage Note: The term parameter, which originates in mathematics, has a number of specific meanings in fields such as astronomy, electricity, crystallography, and statistics. Perhaps because of its ring of technical authority, it has been used more generally in recent years to refer to any factor that determines a range of variations and especially to a factor that restricts what can result from a process or policy. In this use it often comes close to meaning “a limit or boundary.” Some of these new uses have a clear connection to the technical senses of the word. For example, the provisions of a zoning ordinance that limit the height or density of new construction can be reasonably likened to mathematical parameters that establish the limits of other variables. Therefore one can say The zoning commission announced new planning parameters for the historic Lamping district of the city. But other uses go one step further and treat parameter as a high-toned synonym for characteristic. Eighty percent of Panelists reject this use of parameter in the example The Judeo-Christian ethic is one of the important parameters of Western culture. ·Some of the difficulties with the nontechnical use of parameter appear to arise from its resemblance to the word perimeter, with which it shares the sense “limit,” though the precise meanings of the two words differ. This confusion probably explains the use of parameter in a sentence such as U.S. forces report that the parameters of the mine area in the Gulf are fairly well established, where the word perimeter would have expressed the intended sense more exactly. This example of a use of parameter was unacceptable to 61 percent of the Usage Panel.

I'll just have to trust you on that...I'm blonde

[feminvstr]

Originally Posted by fl24019

Usage Note: The term parameter, which originates in mathematics, has a number of specific meanings in fields such as astronomy, electricity, crystallography, and statistics. Perhaps because of its ring of technical authority, it has been used more generally in recent years to refer to any factor that determines a range of variations and especially to a factor that restricts what can result from a process or policy. In this use it often comes close to meaning “a limit or boundary.” Some of these new uses have a clear connection to the technical senses of the word. For example, the provisions of a zoning ordinance that limit the height or density of new construction can be reasonably likened to mathematical parameters that establish the limits of other variables. Therefore one can say The zoning commission announced new planning parameters for the historic Lamping district of the city. But other uses go one step further and treat parameter as a high-toned synonym for characteristic. Eighty percent of Panelists reject this use of parameter in the example The Judeo-Christian ethic is one of the important parameters of Western culture. ·Some of the difficulties with the nontechnical use of parameter appear to arise from its resemblance to the word perimeter, with which it shares the sense “limit,” though the precise meanings of the two words differ. This confusion probably explains the use of parameter in a sentence such as U.S. forces report that the parameters of the mine area in the Gulf are fairly well established, where the word perimeter would have expressed the intended sense more exactly. This example of a use of parameter was unacceptable to 61 percent of the Usage Panel.

Ms. Cj AKA Yorkiegold genius! semantics !!!

[Baron]

Originally Posted by lksdolls

BamaFan............I've agreed with your posts. Yes, I agree that there is much more to it than just a beauty contest, but when you have 10 or 20 dogs competing with equal "total" packages, bottom line, it boils down to a beauty contest. Everyone assumes that I view the entire process as nothing more than a beauty contest. That is not what think nor what I've said. It's the bottom line. Big difference.

Unless you are the judge, you have no way of knowing that the 10 or 20 dogs have equal total packages. When there are several good dogs in the ring, the judges job is much harder, but they go over every dog for all the points of the standard, and spectators may not see all the judge sees. You may see several dogs that look great to you, but you don't see what kind of bite they have, or feel their top line to make sure it is straight, and not just fluffed up hair, or check their stance to see that their legs are not bowed, and check their movement. There is much, much more than the looks of a pretty dog. Each judge has their idea of what makes up the perfect standard of the breed, and their idea may not be the same as yours. When a breeder/handler wins over the other dogs, and especially those that are with handlers, you absolutely know you have a pretty good dog, because professional handlers are hard to beat. You not only know you have a good dog to start your breeding program, but you also feel pretty good too.

[Tashasmom]

I can't beleive this thread is still going on. I can't imagine anything new being accomplished..lol

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Tashasmom

I can't beleive this thread is still going on. I can't imagine anything new being accomplished..lol

Ha ha ha...I thought the same thing when my email about a new post popped-up...although I gotta say, some of the recent additions are very interesting.

[Tashasmom]

I can't read the posts anymore..after what k9 said that was enough for me..

[Baron]

Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

Something that bothered me most is that I BET you, if I brought a puppy miller on this thread, his defense as to why he breeds would be no different than many responses on here and that's what I had a problem w/.

You crack me up, especially if you think a puppymiller would have any responsible defense at all for breeding. I take it you have not had much experience with rescue, or seeing the puppymillers, or been to a mill auction. Me thinkish you need some more educating on the subject of puppy millers and what they produce.

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by fl24019

Usage Note: The term parameter, which originates in mathematics, has a number of specific meanings in fields such as astronomy, electricity, crystallography, and statistics. Perhaps because of its ring of technical authority, it has been used more generally in recent years to refer to any factor that determines a range of variations and especially to a factor that restricts what can result from a process or policy. In this use it often comes close to meaning “a limit or boundary.” Some of these new uses have a clear connection to the technical senses of the word. For example, the provisions of a zoning ordinance that limit the height or density of new construction can be reasonably likened to mathematical parameters that establish the limits of other variables. Therefore one can say The zoning commission announced new planning parameters for the historic Lamping district of the city. But other uses go one step further and treat parameter as a high-toned synonym for characteristic. Eighty percent of Panelists reject this use of parameter in the example The Judeo-Christian ethic is one of the important parameters of Western culture. ·Some of the difficulties with the nontechnical use of parameter appear to arise from its resemblance to the word perimeter, with which it shares the sense “limit,” though the precise meanings of the two words differ. This confusion probably explains the use of parameter in a sentence such as U.S. forces report that the parameters of the mine area in the Gulf are fairly well established, where the word perimeter would have expressed the intended sense more exactly. This example of a use of parameter was unacceptable to 61 percent of the Usage Panel.

Is there a link that this came from or are these your words?