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Carters Mom · 01-27-2006, 10:51 PM

Here is the link to the original ad:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24561

Subsequently, there are a few postings in other people's ads that list the pup at $900 with deposit. In those other postings, it was NEVER stipulated that the deposit was non-refundable.

I also suggest you contact the Better Business Bureau, the local and state taxing authorities and the IRS to provide them with a copy of the cancelled check showing this person is conducting a sale.

reneernc · 01-27-2006, 11:07 PM

I was looking at your dogster page....this must be hard with all the unfortunate events you have been through with your pups recently. How old are your babies?

reneernc · 01-27-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by reneernc

I was looking at your dogster page....this must be hard with all the unfortunate events you have been through with your pups recently. How old are your babies?

wrong thread, sorry

PeaceKeepr · 01-27-2006, 11:20 PM

We are emailing Joy to try to work this out. So replying to this thread will hopefully stop. We are saddened that this has boiled down to fussing. We aren't bad people and we aren't trying to con anyone.

Good night.

jkat · 01-27-2006, 11:21 PM

I think we all need to back off and let Joy deal this on her own with Peacekeeper.

As outsiders, it's hard to tell who's right, who's wrong! We don't have the COMPLETE story! Let them solve it on their own!

That is what Joy SHOULD have done in the first place. IF she really felt THAT uncomfortable, she wouldn't have needed all the "advice" she wanted from us. She would've done what she wanted to do: look for another puppy.

Anyways, I say we let them solve it.

honeybrown_43 · 01-27-2006, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PeaceKeepr

We are emailing Joy to try to work this out. So replying to this thread will hopefully stop. We are saddened that this has boiled down to fussing. We aren't bad people and we aren't trying to con anyone.

Good night.

That's Great!

yorkiemom1970 · 01-27-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PeaceKeepr

OK, Lets hear both sides of the story.
1) We have already gotten the pups first set of shots.
2) We have already been deworming the pups since the pups were about a week - week 1/2 old, per the Vets orders.
3) We have been working with you on the payment of the pup...YOU HAVE NOT PAID $900 FOR THE DOG YET. You haven't even paid 1/2 of that yet. So do not question us what we did with the money that you have given us to date, that was a deposit for us to hold the dog for you. If I would have known you were going to pull this, I would have made Amanda sell the dog out from under you....but we held out for you....like a GOOD person is supposed to. Further more, do not question what we did with the money that you have paid us up to this point. We held out with the belief that you were good for the money.

The breeders that I have encountered in our area release the dogs at 6 weeks, basically shortly after the dogs are able to eat food on their own and the Vet Ok'd the pups to be released from the mothers care.

We have been patient with you about the money, basically b/c we thought you were a friend, but you pull this crap today, totally flipping out and backing out of the deal.

You bought the dog knowing that there were responsiblities that YOU were going to have to deal w/...

Amanda agreed to get the 2nd set of shots done, but not the 2nd round of dewormer.

Amanda also has been wanting to give you the pup early - before we got the rest of the money - as a gesture of FRIENDSHIP. I'm glad I talked her out of that....or we would be out over 1/2 of the price of the pup.

A Health Guarantee? WTF? You have seen the pup. You have held the pup. H3ll...the pup has spent several days at your house....What type of other guarantee do you want? Life insurance on the dog? Give me a break.

I'm stepping of my soap box now. Mods, Please LOCK this thread.

Joy...PM amanda or me or call us before you come on here crying your crap.

My goodness...talk about CRAP I hope you know that you do not have to take this CRAP from any breeder. Especially one who would speak to you in such a way. There are lots of nice breeders out there that WILL give you an excellent guarantee as well as, that WILL worm your puppy as needed, that DO use vets who are compassionate and educated, that WILL keep your baby until 12 wks for the puppie's proper development, that WILL be there for you throughout your babies entire life, and that WILL not speak to you or about you in such a way on a public forum. Call your deposit a lesson in life and move on. Best of luck on your pm's.

PlatinumYorkies · 01-28-2006, 12:01 AM

I think this goes to show that you can't always mis friendship and Business Period. Please, anyone searching or looking for a pup, research Research, RESEARCH!!! Everyone knows you can't let a puppy go at 6wks!!! They won't get love from the mom, and pack training from litter mates!!! ARGH!!!

YorkieShadow · 01-28-2006, 01:07 AM

I paid about the same for my yorkies and I got them at 6 and 8 weeks They came with just their first set of shots and wormed ......no health contract no spay/neuter agreement if they did I would not of even took them. I think that is the new owners choice if they are paying for that dog then they have a right to breed it if they want to, unless its going to be to small .

crystalsmom · 01-28-2006, 05:34 AM

The only point I am going to touch on is letting a yorkie go before 12 wks??

It should not be done and that is all there is to it. This breeder is exactly
what we have been talking about on other threads. BUYER BEWARE and do
your homework. Also Peacekeeper this forum is here so people can come
to us for advise. I hope you two can work it out.

diva pup · 01-28-2006, 05:57 AM

Quote"Okay look- whether I need to look up to diff. breeders is a totally diff. story. I will look into that. Point is I did let them go at 6 weeks...The other owners were fine with it and the pups are doing great. I am still in contact with them both. I am not a bad person nor a bad breeder. Yes I don't do this for a living. My babies have always been in my house never outside in a shed like most/some breeders. Joy didn't have a problem with this when she agreed to get the pup. She knew it then why did she even send money if it was such a big deal to her like she is saying. The reason she didn't get the pup at 6 weeks is only because she didn't have all the money then. AND BY THE WAY! I got my baby at 6 weeks. She is perfect in every way. I don't know any one who lets there pups go at 12 weeks unless no one has paid for them. The only ones I have ever heard of is on here.Not that 12 weeks is bad - it is a good idea.. but I did not do 12 weeks I did 6 - lets get over that point. I am not in for the money." unquote

I would like to address a couple things in your statement.
First I would seriously rethink where you get your breeding guidance from if the breeders are letting them go at 6 weeks and the dogs live in a shed. That is not like "most breeders" I have ever dealt with or would ever deal with. These are the breeders that should be turned into the ASPCA.
And if you are not in it for the money then why would you be complaining about a dewormer and second set of shots? I think 900 should cover a 9.00 bottle of wormer divided between a litter.

I have seen a million threads on this forum addressing ethical/unethical breeding practices. I have also seen a LOT of posts on 6 week old puppies suffering from illness and hypoglycemia and the distraught owners posting asking for help. Did you not when you were researching your breeding read any of these threads?
It never ceases to amaze me that people will read something over and over and still do what they want for whatever reason they concoct in their own mind.

01-27-2006, 10:51 PM	#46
Carters Mom YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LA Posts: 1,568	Here is the link to the original ad: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24561 Subsequently, there are a few postings in other people's ads that list the pup at $900 with deposit. In those other postings, it was NEVER stipulated that the deposit was non-refundable. I also suggest you contact the Better Business Bureau, the local and state taxing authorities and the IRS to provide them with a copy of the cancelled check showing this person is conducting a sale. __________________ Lisa Proud Marine Mom Carter, Cooper & Crissy's Mom and Sebastian's Nana Never underestimate the warmth of a cold nose!

01-27-2006, 11:20 PM	#49
PeaceKeepr Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Moultrie, GA Posts: 76	We are emailing Joy to try to work this out. So replying to this thread will hopefully stop. We are saddened that this has boiled down to fussing. We aren't bad people and we aren't trying to con anyone. Good night. __________________ One of the few Males on here, And Proud of It!

01-28-2006, 12:01 AM	#53
PlatinumYorkies Monte, Mone't's Joy! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MD Posts: 3,009	I think this goes to show that you can't always mis friendship and Business Period. Please, anyone searching or looking for a pup, research Research, RESEARCH!!! Everyone knows you can't let a puppy go at 6wks!!! They won't get love from the mom, and pack training from litter mates!!! ARGH!!! __________________ "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."!! **Mone't Mom 2 Monte**

01-28-2006, 05:34 AM	#55
crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	I woke up to this !! The only point I am going to touch on is letting a yorkie go before 12 wks?? It should not be done and that is all there is to it. This breeder is exactly what we have been talking about on other threads. BUYER BEWARE and do your homework. Also Peacekeeper this forum is here so people can come to us for advise. I hope you two can work it out. __________________

01-27-2006, 11:07 PM	#47
reneernc Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 807	I was looking at your dogster page....this must be hard with all the unfortunate events you have been through with your pups recently. How old are your babies?

01-27-2006, 11:21 PM	#50
jkat YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 459	I think we all need to back off and let Joy deal this on her own with Peacekeeper. As outsiders, it's hard to tell who's right, who's wrong! We don't have the COMPLETE story! Let them solve it on their own! That is what Joy SHOULD have done in the first place. IF she really felt THAT uncomfortable, she wouldn't have needed all the "advice" she wanted from us. She would've done what she wanted to do: look for another puppy. Anyways, I say we let them solve it.

01-28-2006, 01:07 AM	#54
YorkieShadow BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,999	I paid about the same for my yorkies and I got them at 6 and 8 weeks They came with just their first set of shots and wormed ......no health contract no spay/neuter agreement if they did I would not of even took them. I think that is the new owners choice if they are paying for that dog then they have a right to breed it if they want to, unless its going to be to small .

01-28-2006, 05:57 AM	#56
diva pup BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,139	Quote"Okay look- whether I need to look up to diff. breeders is a totally diff. story. I will look into that. Point is I did let them go at 6 weeks...The other owners were fine with it and the pups are doing great. I am still in contact with them both. I am not a bad person nor a bad breeder. Yes I don't do this for a living. My babies have always been in my house never outside in a shed like most/some breeders. Joy didn't have a problem with this when she agreed to get the pup. She knew it then why did she even send money if it was such a big deal to her like she is saying. The reason she didn't get the pup at 6 weeks is only because she didn't have all the money then. AND BY THE WAY! I got my baby at 6 weeks. She is perfect in every way. I don't know any one who lets there pups go at 12 weeks unless no one has paid for them. The only ones I have ever heard of is on here.Not that 12 weeks is bad - it is a good idea.. but I did not do 12 weeks I did 6 - lets get over that point. I am not in for the money." unquote I would like to address a couple things in your statement. First I would seriously rethink where you get your breeding guidance from if the breeders are letting them go at 6 weeks and the dogs live in a shed. That is not like "most breeders" I have ever dealt with or would ever deal with. These are the breeders that should be turned into the ASPCA. And if you are not in it for the money then why would you be complaining about a dewormer and second set of shots? I think 900 should cover a 9.00 bottle of wormer divided between a litter. I have seen a million threads on this forum addressing ethical/unethical breeding practices. I have also seen a LOT of posts on 6 week old puppies suffering from illness and hypoglycemia and the distraught owners posting asking for help. Did you not when you were researching your breeding read any of these threads? It never ceases to amaze me that people will read something over and over and still do what they want for whatever reason they concoct in their own mind.