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whispersmom2 · 02-01-2006, 09:38 AM

Julie, yes there has been "white" Yorkies in every litter between this mom and dad. That is how I saw my first one and started my long 2+ year wait to get one-either sex. I have a female that carries the piebald gene but she and Remi produced standard color puppies with very little white on either of them. There was a stillborn in the litter....she was alive up til the last 1/2 hour before she was born... and she had tri-color but not parti markings..
And , yes, both parents would have to carry the piebald gene as a recessive to get the parti marked puppies..
And, thanx for the comments on my babies. I am totally kennel-blind when it comes to this litter, The third little guy is in his forever home and is happy as a clam..

YorkieRini · 02-21-2006, 11:20 AM

Sue, Gayle said you are talking to the president of the IBC, Dagmar. Do you understand now what I was trying to point out this whole time? I never said Homer is not a Biewer. But to breed to a US Yorkie is not acceptable, I am sure you are already aware of that. Maybe we can put water under the bridge and work together now that we are on the same page. Aren't we?

I wanted to make this public so everyone knows that we are on the same page

Stormy · 02-21-2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

Sue, Gayle said you are talking to the president of the IBC, Dagmar. Do you understand now what I was trying to point out this whole time? I never said Homer is not a Biewer. But to breed to a US Yorkie is not acceptable, I am sure you are already aware of that. Maybe we can put water under the bridge and work together now that we are on the same page. Aren't we?

I wanted to make this public so everyone knows that we are on the same page

This is wonderful news and I am certain it will give a lot more credibility to our U.S Biewer breeders goals.

whispersmom2 · 02-21-2006, 07:00 PM

Well, I had used my doppler on both of my Biewer girls and heard 3 little heartbeats in the uterus of each mom. We went to the vet today for confirmation (she does allow me to say "second opinion!) and, faith and begorrie, we are gonna have 6 babies within the next 10 days. I can hardly contain myself. Cruise man has proven himself....he was da man and he performed his duty on both girls within 3 days. Go figger!!!!!
Now, I can compare his get with the parti/Biewer babies I kept from Remi and Skylar. OMG, I am so excited!!! Gonna hafta double up on my blood pressure meds...
Poor Villette is gonna wear her fingers to the bone when those babies get here..

Stormy · 02-21-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2

Well, I had used my doppler on both of my Biewer girls and heard 3 little heartbeats in the uterus of each mom. We went to the vet today for confirmation (she does allow me to say "second opinion!) and, faith and begorrie, we are gonna have 6 babies within the next 10 days. I can hardly contain myself. Cruise man has proven himself....he was da man and he performed his duty on both girls within 3 days. Go figger!!!!!
Now, I can compare his get with the parti/Biewer babies I kept from Remi and Skylar. OMG, I am so excited!!! Gonna hafta double up on my blood pressure meds...
Poor Villette is gonna wear her fingers to the bone when those babies get here..

Congratulations,Rini.....How very exciting ! Good Luck !

scrapindee · 02-24-2006, 10:44 AM

There is so much to learn about this breed; and I hope that some day I will be able to contribute to the biewer line.

Without being flamed, I would like to see this breed, and its breeders work out a way to put the different opinions behind and use this forum and others to educate and inform others about these lovely little dogs. There is so much to learn and I for one want to learn as much as I can.

whispersmom2 · 02-24-2006, 11:03 AM

This breed of Yorkshire Terrier is so new that NO ONE is an expert. Some are farther ahead in their research and learning processes BUT experts we and they AIN'T! I love them so much that I can never imagine not having a standard color Yorkie as well as my darlings both partis and Biewers.
Having these litters has been a deeply moving and wonderful experience, and my learning about them will continue as long as I am associated with them.
I have been asked to register Remi, my parti male, in Germany, because they are so desperate for new blood.Apparently, AKC is recognized as legit by some orgs in Germany. I have given this great thought and will continue to consider it, but it will take a lot of info to make the decision about what to do..Alex and Marlee are the parti/Biewer mix puppies that I kept from the litter between Remi and Chrystel. Chrystel's current litter, just a few hours old, are with a TRUE Biewer and I cannot wait to compare the look, personality, coat and every other aspect of their lives..
Now, to try to settle down and wait for Ilsa's brood of 3....

kisszoe · 02-24-2006, 12:06 PM

I totally agree!! I have come here hoping to get help and knowledge. I was warned not to come out and say that I want to breed because of the negative feedback I might get. But, you don't get the help you need unless you ask for it, right? I hope this is a place that I can learn from all of you experienced breeders out there and not be discouraged from doing something I have dreamed of doing for so long. I have been studying book upon book, still I feel like I am missing the help I need. Will I find it here? I hope so. You all seem so knowledgable, but there seems to be some contention too. So far a couple of wonderful ladies have been helping me out. I don't always know all of the questions to ask, but as they come up it would be great to be able to come here and ask them. Sometimes emails can come across wrong and I hope this one hasn't. I am new here and hope I can learn as well as contribute.

Stormy · 02-25-2006, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrapindee

There is so much to learn about this breed; and I hope that some day I will be able to contribute to the biewer line.

Without being flamed, I would like to see this breed, and its breeders work out a way to put the different opinions behind and use this forum and others to educate and inform others about these lovely little dogs. There is so much to learn and I for one want to learn as much as I can.

Do you own a True Biewer ?

Stormy · 02-25-2006, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kisszoe

I totally agree!! I have come here hoping to get help and knowledge. I was warned not to come out and say that I want to breed because of the negative feedback I might get. But, you don't get the help you need unless you ask for it, right? I hope this is a place that I can learn from all of you experienced breeders out there and not be discouraged from doing something I have dreamed of doing for so long. I have been studying book upon book, still I feel like I am missing the help I need. Will I find it here? I hope so. You all seem so knowledgable, but there seems to be some contention too. So far a couple of wonderful ladies have been helping me out. I don't always know all of the questions to ask, but as they come up it would be great to be able to come here and ask them. Sometimes emails can come across wrong and I hope this one hasn't. I am new here and hope I can learn as well as contribute.

Do you own a True Biewer ?

YorkieRini · 02-25-2006, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whispersmom2

This breed of Yorkshire Terrier is so new that NO ONE is an expert. Some are farther ahead in their research and learning processes BUT experts we and they AIN'T! I love them so much that I can never imagine not having a standard color Yorkie as well as my darlings both partis and Biewers.
Having these litters has been a deeply moving and wonderful experience, and my learning about them will continue as long as I am associated with them.
I have been asked to register Remi, my parti male, in Germany, because they are so desperate for new blood.Apparently, AKC is recognized as legit by some orgs in Germany. I have given this great thought and will continue to consider it, but it will take a lot of info to make the decision about what to do..Alex and Marlee are the parti/Biewer mix puppies that I kept from the litter between Remi and Chrystel. Chrystel's current litter, just a few hours old, are with a TRUE Biewer and I cannot wait to compare the look, personality, coat and every other aspect of their lives..
Now, to try to settle down and wait for Ilsa's brood of 3....

Per Germany, they are a separate race meaning a breed of their own

I specifically asked this question to numerous breeders and the IBC. Is the Biewer a Yorkie or a Biewer. And I was told Biewer. So I go with that.

YorkieRini · 02-25-2006, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrapindee

There is so much to learn about this breed; and I hope that some day I will be able to contribute to the biewer line.

Without being flamed, I would like to see this breed, and its breeders work out a way to put the different opinions behind and use this forum and others to educate and inform others about these lovely little dogs. There is so much to learn and I for one want to learn as much as I can.

I can assure you I would not 'flame' you or anyone else. There is a huge debate controversy over what a Biewer is and how to breed it. The divide is Germany as well as the US. As you can see Rini and I do not agree. What i would suggest is hear both sides and do what you feel comfortable doing.
I can assure you I follow Germany and the club I am a member of. Some do not want 'a club to run their breeding program'. This is America so we are all free to do what we please. I do not get upset or offended with those that do not agree with me, however I do get backlash from those I dont agree with..go figure.

Anyway, feel free to ask questions. Just don't expect to get the same answer..lolol

babi1542 · 02-25-2006, 06:17 PM

Oh my gosh they are beautiful!

Stormy · 02-25-2006, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieRini

I can assure you I would not 'flame' you or anyone else. There is a huge debate controversy over what a Biewer is and how to breed it. The divide is Germany as well as the US. As you can see Rini and I do not agree. What i would suggest is hear both sides and do what you feel comfortable doing.
I can assure you I follow Germany and the club I am a member of. Some do not want 'a club to run their breeding program'. This is America so we are all free to do what we please. I do not get upset or offended with those that do not agree with me, however I do get backlash from those I dont agree with..go figure.

Anyway, feel free to ask questions. Just don't expect to get the same answer..lolol

I agree, Irene....I consider my TRUE German Biewer to be a Biewer and not a Yorkie at all.

SandyTXn · 02-25-2006, 06:46 PM

Your Biewers are just beautiful!!!! I think they Cute tooooo! I would also wish to own one some day. Good Luck with them! I know you are so proud!

02-21-2006, 11:20 AM	#182
YorkieRini Livin' La Yorkie Local Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,607	Finally!! Sue, Gayle said you are talking to the president of the IBC, Dagmar. Do you understand now what I was trying to point out this whole time? I never said Homer is not a Biewer. But to breed to a US Yorkie is not acceptable, I am sure you are already aware of that. Maybe we can put water under the bridge and work together now that we are on the same page. Aren't we? I wanted to make this public so everyone knows that we are on the same page Last edited by YorkieRini; 02-21-2006 at 11:22 AM.

02-21-2006, 07:00 PM	#184
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	We're gonna be parents Well, I had used my doppler on both of my Biewer girls and heard 3 little heartbeats in the uterus of each mom. We went to the vet today for confirmation (she does allow me to say "second opinion!) and, faith and begorrie, we are gonna have 6 babies within the next 10 days. I can hardly contain myself. Cruise man has proven himself....he was da man and he performed his duty on both girls within 3 days. Go figger!!!!! Now, I can compare his get with the parti/Biewer babies I kept from Remi and Skylar. OMG, I am so excited!!! Gonna hafta double up on my blood pressure meds... Poor Villette is gonna wear her fingers to the bone when those babies get here..

02-25-2006, 06:17 PM	#193
babi1542 Double Trouble Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 4,658	Oh my gosh they are beautiful! __________________ PEBBLES AND SASHA MY DOGS ARE NOT SPOILED...I'M JUST WELL TRAINED!

02-25-2006, 06:46 PM	#195
SandyTXn YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 646	Your Biewers are just beautiful!!!! I think they Cute tooooo! I would also wish to own one some day. Good Luck with them! I know you are so proud! __________________ Sandy, Dudley and Dinkey

02-01-2006, 09:38 AM	#181
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	Julie, yes there has been "white" Yorkies in every litter between this mom and dad. That is how I saw my first one and started my long 2+ year wait to get one-either sex. I have a female that carries the piebald gene but she and Remi produced standard color puppies with very little white on either of them. There was a stillborn in the litter....she was alive up til the last 1/2 hour before she was born... and she had tri-color but not parti markings.. And , yes, both parents would have to carry the piebald gene as a recessive to get the parti marked puppies.. And, thanx for the comments on my babies. I am totally kennel-blind when it comes to this litter, The third little guy is in his forever home and is happy as a clam..

02-24-2006, 10:44 AM	#186
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	There is so much to learn about this breed; and I hope that some day I will be able to contribute to the biewer line. Without being flamed, I would like to see this breed, and its breeders work out a way to put the different opinions behind and use this forum and others to educate and inform others about these lovely little dogs. There is so much to learn and I for one want to learn as much as I can.

02-24-2006, 11:03 AM	#187
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	This breed of Yorkshire Terrier is so new that NO ONE is an expert. Some are farther ahead in their research and learning processes BUT experts we and they AIN'T! I love them so much that I can never imagine not having a standard color Yorkie as well as my darlings both partis and Biewers. Having these litters has been a deeply moving and wonderful experience, and my learning about them will continue as long as I am associated with them. I have been asked to register Remi, my parti male, in Germany, because they are so desperate for new blood.Apparently, AKC is recognized as legit by some orgs in Germany. I have given this great thought and will continue to consider it, but it will take a lot of info to make the decision about what to do..Alex and Marlee are the parti/Biewer mix puppies that I kept from the litter between Remi and Chrystel. Chrystel's current litter, just a few hours old, are with a TRUE Biewer and I cannot wait to compare the look, personality, coat and every other aspect of their lives.. Now, to try to settle down and wait for Ilsa's brood of 3....

02-24-2006, 12:06 PM	#188
kisszoe Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 45	I totally agree!! I have come here hoping to get help and knowledge. I was warned not to come out and say that I want to breed because of the negative feedback I might get. But, you don't get the help you need unless you ask for it, right? I hope this is a place that I can learn from all of you experienced breeders out there and not be discouraged from doing something I have dreamed of doing for so long. I have been studying book upon book, still I feel like I am missing the help I need. Will I find it here? I hope so. You all seem so knowledgable, but there seems to be some contention too. So far a couple of wonderful ladies have been helping me out. I don't always know all of the questions to ask, but as they come up it would be great to be able to come here and ask them. Sometimes emails can come across wrong and I hope this one hasn't. I am new here and hope I can learn as well as contribute.