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yorkiemom1970 · 01-26-2006, 09:36 PM

The entire site bothered me. The chain, the maltese, and alot of things.

chloeandj · 01-26-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by StewiesMom

I have to say that the looks of the Maltese bothered me the most

I just went and looked at this site again. I had only seen the male at first. Did you see Matty, Pigtail and Shyla? http://www.snarlsandwags.com/Maltese.html I think they are maltese, that's how bad they look. I am very upset about they way they look. Matty's whole back body is completely STAINED brown!

Yorkieville200 · 01-27-2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies

I can only speak for Illinois. I believe it is the same for Indiana but plz correct me if Im wrong.
Did you know if you own 6 breeding females to be legal you are suppose to have a kennel license thru the Illinois state Dept of Agriculture, which adheres to the USDA regulations?
I always thought people with this license had tons of different breeds or tons of one breed. Not true. A few of them Im sure now are just being legal.
Ive been looking into a license and found this out recently. In regards to the website, I see no mention of having to cut a dogs hair off to meet regulations in the book???? Did you see the size of chain on this clipped yorkie ? Is it around his neck? FOr heavens sake.
It was very disappointing to me to know that being licensed makes you house your dogs in a separate building, especially with the change being at so few of a number.

So, a breeder being on the USDA list, is, not always, a bad thing? (I'm not referring to this particular breeder, as we can all see, they're inhumane.) I'm just wondering about the USDA list and reputable breeders.

whispersmom2 · 01-27-2006, 10:22 AM

I don't know-haven't been reading on there for a log time. I do know that the names on the USDA lists by state have several licenses in different names. I was told that is because they can be up and running without a delay, if their license are revoked or suspended. I know the breeders in this area, especially PA, have many breeds and many dogs of each breed.
There is a post on SmallPawsRescue about a mill that they went to for voluntary surrender of several different dogs..mostly Bichons but a couple of other breeds too. It makes for some gut-wrenching reading..And, the miller had just passed their USDA inspection..

rrosenberry · 01-27-2006, 10:37 AM

Did you all read the " We are not a puppy mill" statement...hmmm.

yorkiemom1970 · 01-27-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rrosenberry

Did you all read the " We are not a puppy mill" statement...hmmm.

yeah! for real! hmmmmm

Yorkieville200 · 01-27-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2

I don't know-haven't been reading on there for a log time. I do know that the names on the USDA lists by state have several licenses in different names. I was told that is because they can be up and running without a delay, if their license are revoked or suspended. I know the breeders in this area, especially PA, have many breeds and many dogs of each breed.
There is a post on SmallPawsRescue about a mill that they went to for voluntary surrender of several different dogs..mostly Bichons but a couple of other breeds too. It makes for some gut-wrenching reading..And, the miller had just passed their USDA inspection..

Rini,

The USDA thing, really concerns me, because I just found out, that the breeder of one of my dogs, is co-breeding with a breeder on the USDA list. And while I only have pets, I only support reputable breeders. It is my small way of not-supporting millers and BYB's. I feel if all pet owners followed this policy, we'd put those people out of business.

I've seen, and read stories in Resuce that make me just hate some people in this world.

Sheila

txshopper73 · 01-27-2006, 01:18 PM

Very sad...the min pins were the only ones that didn't look terrified!

yorkiemom1970 · 01-27-2006, 01:38 PM

What bothers me also is that I feel that if a breeder shaves down every single dog they own all the time, like you see on that site, then they obvisously don't put alot of their time into taking care of their dogs and must only want ONE thing from them. None of those dogs were groomed and the white one's look brown. I know that clipping them down is done by some for reasons such as babies on the way, summer clip, ect. I have done this myself. I just did one of my boys. However , there is a fine line there.

I'm not really all that familiar with usda and their procedures. I don't personally know any usda liscensed breeders either. I can only hope that the paws act doesn't go through, because for me personally I could not follow usda rules as I feel they are not in the best interest of MY dogs. My friend was telling me recently concerning the paws act, that if it were to pass, and a breeder is already being inspected by the AKC, then usda will not interfere with that. I don't know how much truth is in that or if its a fact, but I surely hope so.

chattiesmom · 01-27-2006, 02:33 PM

Ok, I just went to the site and came away angry..... shaving the poor little cutie is bad enough, but what was this about "no mate except for a poodle?

What are these folks thinking, do you have to breed anything that walks?

yorkiemom1970 · 01-27-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chattiesmom

Ok, I just went to the site and came away angry..... shaving the poor little cutie is bad enough, but what was this about "no mate except for a poodle?

What are these folks thinking, do you have to breed anything that walks?

Yeah, I feel you so much! It's like they are saying "hey, we dont have anything to breed to him but a poodle at this time, so OH WELL, we'll mate them and make some money regardless until something better comes along"

01-27-2006, 10:37 AM	#20
rrosenberry & Bailey & Bella Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,164	Did you all read the " We are not a puppy mill" statement...hmmm. __________________ Rhonda, Bailey, Josie and my angel Bella Rue' "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." ~Anatole France~

01-27-2006, 01:18 PM	#23
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	Very sad...the min pins were the only ones that didn't look terrified! __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

01-27-2006, 02:33 PM	#25
chattiesmom Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 17,674	Ok, I just went to the site and came away angry..... shaving the poor little cutie is bad enough, but what was this about "no mate except for a poodle? What are these folks thinking, do you have to breed anything that walks? __________________ Silk Step-In Harnesses www.foxypups.etsy.com

01-26-2006, 09:36 PM	#16
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	The entire site bothered me. The chain, the maltese, and alot of things.

01-27-2006, 10:22 AM	#19
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	I don't know-haven't been reading on there for a log time. I do know that the names on the USDA lists by state have several licenses in different names. I was told that is because they can be up and running without a delay, if their license are revoked or suspended. I know the breeders in this area, especially PA, have many breeds and many dogs of each breed. There is a post on SmallPawsRescue about a mill that they went to for voluntary surrender of several different dogs..mostly Bichons but a couple of other breeds too. It makes for some gut-wrenching reading..And, the miller had just passed their USDA inspection..

01-27-2006, 01:38 PM	#24
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	What bothers me also is that I feel that if a breeder shaves down every single dog they own all the time, like you see on that site, then they obvisously don't put alot of their time into taking care of their dogs and must only want ONE thing from them. None of those dogs were groomed and the white one's look brown. I know that clipping them down is done by some for reasons such as babies on the way, summer clip, ect. I have done this myself. I just did one of my boys. However , there is a fine line there. I'm not really all that familiar with usda and their procedures. I don't personally know any usda liscensed breeders either. I can only hope that the paws act doesn't go through, because for me personally I could not follow usda rules as I feel they are not in the best interest of MY dogs. My friend was telling me recently concerning the paws act, that if it were to pass, and a breeder is already being inspected by the AKC, then usda will not interfere with that. I don't know how much truth is in that or if its a fact, but I surely hope so.