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Sugar's Mom · 12-26-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

I SO AGREE with that pm to you

and I have to wonder when Yorksrule said that there are many people that pm her saying they're breeding tinies - I seriously doubt that's true on this site....If it was true - why don't they post ? ....

In my opinion..... if you are doing something you are PROUD of - then you would want to share it with others & wouldn't worry about what anyone says. Of course ...people who intentionally breed super tiny yorkies really don't have anything to be proud of. Remember ...I said this is only my opinion....

It was me that said I had many pm's from people that said they both OWN and breed tinies. Scroll up to my post for the entire thing about why they don't post. Even tho it looks like my yorkies will be standard size and after all I have learned on here thanks to you and many other wonderful people, I know better than to breed a small female, I can understand why they would say that. But, I swear, I am having a horrible time finding a female that will grow to about five pounds. I have searched for months since I learned this is the size I need.

StewiesMom · 12-26-2005, 09:21 AM

Everyone can say whatever they want about how they're going to behave, but in the end, it's only actions that matter.

PlatinumYorkies · 12-26-2005, 11:47 AM

Can we just sll hold hands and sing we are the world!

red98vett · 12-26-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumYorkies

Can we just sll hold hands and sing we are the world!

I heard that song yesterday - I've always loved it...

and oooops to Sugars Mom

I apologise for mixing up the quotes....

but.... I did like your post. I know many times things get repeated over and over & it's all up to each of us whether we learn something or or just turn our heads to it.

Jaspermom · 12-26-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StewiesMom

Everyone can say whatever they want about how they're going to behave, but in the end, it's only actions that matter.

This is ever so true...

wnalegria · 12-26-2005, 12:14 PM

I have one simple concern about the breeding tinies. When there is a problem why are the breeders who breed 5 pounds and larger females the ones who are contacted.

If there is such a population of breeders here on YT breeding little ones- you need to step up to the plate. Take the phone calls in the middle of the night- get up here with your stats and information about your breeding program. Give your wealth of information to those who are breeding the little females. How many posts do we have a week at least three to four that deal with a pregnant tiny female.

If I posted on a thread that I was breeding a 15 pound female with my 20 pound male-And that I needed help - problems with the pregnacy I would get just as many comments as the posts who are about breeding a smaller yorkie.
I would be told over and over again about the standard and the dogs were too large.

Many of us who state do not breed the tines did this one time in the past or know people who did with terrible results.

You have every right to say we are breeding to big of females if you choose.
No one has ever been stopped from stating their thoughts. That is the fun of debate and discussion.

We have dogs on here that IMHO should never have been bred when I look at the pictures that are posted. Do I PM anyone NO. Do I make a comment that your dog is not breeding quality NO. If you ask me to look at your dog on a thread I may give you my thoughts. Many times I say nothing out of consideration for your feelings.

This all about free choice. I am not going to knock on your door because you breed small dogs. I am not going to say you are a bad breeder or puppymill because you do. It is your choce. I do not have to agree. We all have different bloodlines- we all seem to look for a different style of Yorkie.

We all love our dogs that is the common thread that binds us all together. Do I know it all- no way. I run into new things all the time that I have never heard of or have had happen to me. You just deal with them and go on with your life.

troubletb · 12-26-2005, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumYorkies

Can we just sll hold hands and sing we are the world!

You are so silly!!

luvdorkyyorkies · 12-27-2005, 10:21 AM

Hi,
Just my thought just in new posters in general.
I think sometimes when someone asks a question, instead of us sometimes staying on the subject we comment on the details of the post instead of the question its self.
The post goes off track to our views about the details that bother us.
To a new person Im sure its intimidating and they feel like they are being attacked sometimes. Kinda comes across like our chests are puffed out.
Hows about we let them get used to us and attack them later?.......LOL JUST KIDDING!!
Theres some fun in debating and Ive been ripped up a few times here.....but Ive also been pretty rude in the past to a few posts. I read them later and thought....why would you say that Kelly???
But anyway this is a fantastic learning forum and I have learned a great deal here and will learn lots more for sure!' So I hope when I post I dont make anyone feel uncomfortable. One thing for sure if you ask for advice, your gonna get it whether you like the results or not. I want the truth myself not a lie.

Jaspermom · 12-27-2005, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies

One thing for sure if you ask for advice, your gonna get it whether you like the results or not. I want the truth myself not a lie.

Good one, Kelly!!

JCarlson2004 · 12-27-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by StewiesMom

Everyone can say whatever they want about how they're going to behave, but in the end, it's only actions that matter.

YorkiesX2 · 12-31-2005, 01:00 AM

I have been on YT for a while but don't usually post. I have had my feelings hurt and I'm pretty tough skinned. People either jump on someone and make the post something else, you get lots of pats on the back but no answers to the question or worse no response at all! I do think when someone is a newbie we should only give one reply about the "tea cup" discription... I bought a Yorkie Calandar and it even made reference to "tea cup" and I thought oh no they are looking for trouble and don't even know it!

I think 10 people saying the same thing to someone is a bit much. I do like reading all the responses and I have learned a lot! I do like the site but I find I take a break from it for a month sometimes at a time when I get my fill of it. I think we need more Men posting on the site and maybe it would be less of a hen house...

We all love animals and some people have lots to learn and some people never have to ask the questions because they have learned the hard way or ask the questions to their mentors off the forum. When someone has the courage to ask a question think to yourself as if it was a friend asking you. Bad breeders don't take the time to learn new information and probably don't even know YT exists.
I am glad everything is working out for Kandi and her 4 boys so far. Breeding is not an exact science but guide lines should be stepped carefully. I do believe that knowledge is power and this is where we all can be better people.

red98vett · 12-31-2005, 04:55 AM

I actually think many times it's because people DO care that there can be 10 people saying the same thing - it shows they cared enough to

A. Bothered to even POST .....
B. It must be a pretty common opinion if so many share it.

Things do get repeated alot.... but in the end - we always have to remember there is a constant stream of people reading this site - if NO one spoke up for fear of hurting someones feelings - then how would anyone learn anything....

For instance - if someone asks breeding advise for a tiny - Would you WANT no one to say "Please Don't do it" ?

Not me....I think it's great that so many people offer up what they know or have learned and hopefully it helps that person change their mind.

I tend to think that bad breeders DO read this site - I think we have ALL kinds of people breeding who come here - they may not listen or post... but I know they're reading.

StewiesMom · 12-31-2005, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

I actually think many times it's because people DO care that there can be 10 people saying the same thing - it shows they cared enough to

A. Bothered to even POST .....
B. It must be a pretty common opinion if so many share it.

Things do get repeated alot.... but in the end - we always have to remember there is a constant stream of people reading this site - if NO one spoke up for fear of hurting someones feelings - then how would anyone learn anything....

For instance - if someone asks breeding advise for a tiny - Would you WANT no one to say "Please Don't do it" ?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she meant these kind of posts being repeated:

or
:zip: :zip: :zip: :zip:
or the response of:
"I'm not touching that one w/ a ten foot pole"
or
"sounds familiar"

etc etc etc

StewiesMom · 12-31-2005, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkiesX2

I think we need more Men posting on the site and maybe it would be less of a hen house...

I disagree with the "hen house" statement. People are mostly just passionate and some of them are extremely opinionated (sometimes with what I think are horrible opinions) . Men can't even take care of themselves, let alone Yorkies

livingdustmops · 12-31-2005, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by StewiesMom

Men can't even take care of themselves, let alone Yorkies

Sorry for the man bashing but it is the last day of the year and I promise I will do better in 2006

and yes I know there are some great men on here who absolutely can take care of a Yorkie...

12-26-2005, 09:21 AM	#17
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	Everyone can say whatever they want about how they're going to behave, but in the end, it's only actions that matter. __________________ Kristy & Stewie

12-26-2005, 11:47 AM	#18
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12-31-2005, 04:55 AM	#27
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	I actually think many times it's because people DO care that there can be 10 people saying the same thing - it shows they cared enough to A. Bothered to even POST ..... B. It must be a pretty common opinion if so many share it. Things do get repeated alot.... but in the end - we always have to remember there is a constant stream of people reading this site - if NO one spoke up for fear of hurting someones feelings - then how would anyone learn anything.... For instance - if someone asks breeding advise for a tiny - Would you WANT no one to say "Please Don't do it" ? Not me....I think it's great that so many people offer up what they know or have learned and hopefully it helps that person change their mind. I tend to think that bad breeders DO read this site - I think we have ALL kinds of people breeding who come here - they may not listen or post... but I know they're reading. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE! Last edited by red98vett; 12-31-2005 at 04:58 AM.

12-26-2005, 12:14 PM	#21
wnalegria Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis Indiana Posts: 815	I have one simple concern about the breeding tinies. When there is a problem why are the breeders who breed 5 pounds and larger females the ones who are contacted. If there is such a population of breeders here on YT breeding little ones- you need to step up to the plate. Take the phone calls in the middle of the night- get up here with your stats and information about your breeding program. Give your wealth of information to those who are breeding the little females. How many posts do we have a week at least three to four that deal with a pregnant tiny female. If I posted on a thread that I was breeding a 15 pound female with my 20 pound male-And that I needed help - problems with the pregnacy I would get just as many comments as the posts who are about breeding a smaller yorkie. I would be told over and over again about the standard and the dogs were too large. Many of us who state do not breed the tines did this one time in the past or know people who did with terrible results. You have every right to say we are breeding to big of females if you choose. No one has ever been stopped from stating their thoughts. That is the fun of debate and discussion. We have dogs on here that IMHO should never have been bred when I look at the pictures that are posted. Do I PM anyone NO. Do I make a comment that your dog is not breeding quality NO. If you ask me to look at your dog on a thread I may give you my thoughts. Many times I say nothing out of consideration for your feelings. This all about free choice. I am not going to knock on your door because you breed small dogs. I am not going to say you are a bad breeder or puppymill because you do. It is your choce. I do not have to agree. We all have different bloodlines- we all seem to look for a different style of Yorkie. We all love our dogs that is the common thread that binds us all together. Do I know it all- no way. I run into new things all the time that I have never heard of or have had happen to me. You just deal with them and go on with your life.

12-27-2005, 10:21 AM	#23
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Hi, Just my thought just in new posters in general. I think sometimes when someone asks a question, instead of us sometimes staying on the subject we comment on the details of the post instead of the question its self. The post goes off track to our views about the details that bother us. To a new person Im sure its intimidating and they feel like they are being attacked sometimes. Kinda comes across like our chests are puffed out. Hows about we let them get used to us and attack them later?.......LOL JUST KIDDING!! Theres some fun in debating and Ive been ripped up a few times here.....but Ive also been pretty rude in the past to a few posts. I read them later and thought....why would you say that Kelly??? But anyway this is a fantastic learning forum and I have learned a great deal here and will learn lots more for sure!' So I hope when I post I dont make anyone feel uncomfortable. One thing for sure if you ask for advice, your gonna get it whether you like the results or not. I want the truth myself not a lie.

12-31-2005, 01:00 AM	#26
YorkiesX2 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sask.Canada Posts: 139	I have been on YT for a while but don't usually post. I have had my feelings hurt and I'm pretty tough skinned. People either jump on someone and make the post something else, you get lots of pats on the back but no answers to the question or worse no response at all! I do think when someone is a newbie we should only give one reply about the "tea cup" discription... I bought a Yorkie Calandar and it even made reference to "tea cup" and I thought oh no they are looking for trouble and don't even know it! I think 10 people saying the same thing to someone is a bit much. I do like reading all the responses and I have learned a lot! I do like the site but I find I take a break from it for a month sometimes at a time when I get my fill of it. I think we need more Men posting on the site and maybe it would be less of a hen house... We all love animals and some people have lots to learn and some people never have to ask the questions because they have learned the hard way or ask the questions to their mentors off the forum. When someone has the courage to ask a question think to yourself as if it was a friend asking you. Bad breeders don't take the time to learn new information and probably don't even know YT exists. I am glad everything is working out for Kandi and her 4 boys so far. Breeding is not an exact science but guide lines should be stepped carefully. I do believe that knowledge is power and this is where we all can be better people.