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04-13-2013, 09:15 PM | #16 |
Hook Em! Bevo & Mack Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Texas
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| I would beware....as the others have said, a good breeder would not emphasize on selling tiny yorkies and would avoid the word "teacup". AKC standards are 4-7 pounds, not 1-3. I have a 2 pound yorkie...as well as a 5, 6 and 7 pound yorkie. The "larger" 3 are very small dogs....they fit into SMALL purses... the 2 pounder was NOT supposed to be so small....she is FRAGILE. Fortunately, she is healthy and playful, but so very tiny and fragile. Find a good reputable breeder. BUY THE BREEDER FIRST!!! Then the pup!! Good luck!!!
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04-14-2013, 10:43 AM | #17 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lubbock, Texas
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| Unfortunately the AKC standard does not have a 4 pound minimum, just the 7 pound. Guess that's why so many think they can get away with breeding and advertising these poor little tiny ones. Very sad!
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04-19-2013, 08:42 AM | #18 | |
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I did not realize you had a little girl too. I would love to see pics of her. I didn't see any in your albums. 2lbs is small, but I am glad she is healthy. Angel has not reached 3lbs yet either though. I am not sure if she will or not at this point.
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04-21-2013, 09:15 AM | #19 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bella Vista Arkansas
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| I don't see why the word 'teacup' is such a bad word. Most people think a yorkie is a teacup anyway. When they see that they probaby just think small, which is what many are looking for. I know the word isn't proper, but so what?! Just because someone breeds a small dog doesn't mean they are bad breeders, don't take proper care of them and use 4# females. Many use tiny boys and 5# females. Just because someone is making more $$ on their pups is probably meaning they are making a living breeding Yorkies. Is that so wrong, if they are loved and well cared for? I have become a good friend of Natalie. She has a set up in her home that is state of art and cares VERY much for her dogs. She lives and breathes and is practically home bound taking care of them. There are many, but they are very loved and well cared for. I have NEVER seen a little 4# female. The only small ones she has is the one she has kept for a pet. I have had 'run' of her home and been through every room. Everything is clean and perfect. I have always wondered how she does it all and yet keeps her dogs so well groomed. She also spends a fortune in vets and keeping them up to date with everything. When she sits down there are dogs all over her. She has perfect bookkeeping and records on everything. I just get tired of people being so judgemental when they really don't know. My little Libby is a 3# from Natalie. She is as healthy and full of spunk of any Yorkie I have ever had. I was asked some years ago by Natalie to take a little fragile girl. She was probably one of those little tinies that usually don't live past a few days. Angel Baby would not give up. Natalie gave her to me when she was 6 mos old because she just couldn't give her the attention she needed, all of us thinking she would only live another few weeks. Well, I just lost her last spring at nearly 7 years old. The vets figured she had CP, could hardly walk, but she was wonderful and a joy every single day. She was smart and spunky in her little fragile way. She was 1.8 lb. The rest of that litter were 4-5#. CP is a birth injury, could have happened in the womb or in delivery. She is dearly missed. Sorry I have rambled on, but obviously, I feel very strongly about this. |
04-22-2013, 09:48 AM | #20 | |
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The YTCA, which is the mother club, has found it’s best to breed females over 5 pounds, smaller dogs have too many problems. The YTCA consists of many dedicated breeders who have the benefit of knowledge of all the breeders who have come before them, which is 100 of years of knowledge. Many have learned the hard way that breeding smaller dogs is dangerous for the dogs. Not only that, smaller dogs are harder to find a proper home for, they need much more protection and care. To answer your question about, “Just because someone is making more $$ on their pups is probably meaning they are making a living breeding Yorkies. Is that so wrong, if they are loved and well cared for?” Yes, it’s wrong to make a living from producing dogs; you will take too many shortcuts if money is the bottom line. Why would you take dogs out of your breeding program just because they produce liver shunt babies? So what, let the new owners pay for the surgery. Also, in my opinion, a breeder who is breeding for one trait, such as size is doing a disservice to the breed, there are many qualities that make up standard size is only one. I was devastated when my purebred dog died of a genetic disease at the age of 7 and watching my young sons go through the pain really about killed me. I want to do everything I can to protect people from buying a genetically damaged dog and so I try and help educate people. If this is what you call being "judgmental", then so be it.
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04-22-2013, 10:08 AM | #21 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | If you are breeding to support yourself, provide a roof over your head, food and clothes for yourself and perhaps your children. There is an incredible pressure to base breeding decisions on financial economics. You just can't be objective over what tests to do and why, who to breed with and why, how long to keep the puppies. When to vaccinate, how much and what kind of support you give your puppy buyers. When profit margins predominate-health of the puppies is likely to be the first thing to suffer. The most respected breeders, the crème de la crème strive to improve the breed, and place a huge amount of time and commitment to do so. Spaying and or neutering males or females that don't meet the grade in either conformation or health. At their cost might I point out. And they leave this breed better than when they found it. At the minimum a very good breeder will keep the YT to standard and in good health - breeding fine representatives of the breed on a consistent basis. They too will neuter and or spay - dogs with health problems that might even crop up in year 4 or 5. They will deliberately pull from their breeding programs any such dog. To do either one of these things is to invest a large amount of time in research, in studying, in learning. To show, to train, to breed, to whelp, rear and finally place their puppies into great homes for them. A great breeder and a good breeder never, ever, stops learning and growing. And one day they will know enough to share, to give back to the novice breeder their knowledge.
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04-22-2013, 01:50 PM | #22 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA
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| Yes Natalie's is too...OP the breeder your asking about is a Greeder, a ruthless greeder who will do anything for to make a buck off a defenseless pup...Do not buy from her.
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04-22-2013, 03:44 PM | #23 | |
YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bella Vista Arkansas
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As I said before, I never saw a 4# female that she had. The males are tiny the females are a good 5-6# I believe she cares not only for her breeders but her pups are taken very good care of. They are all taken and examined by a vet etc. If you really knew her, you would know she is NOT a ruthless person at all. She wouldn't have been in this business for so many years if she was doing it poorly. I don't care what any of you say. Many people looking for a Yorkie want a tiny. They are not bad people and know what they want. I believe Natalie does a VERY good job. Her dogs probably live better than many peoples dogs. There are NO cages. They all live in her home. When they have pups, they have an area that have personal runs for the mothers and babies. The rooms are clean, well lit, with big windows. The walls are short and the door area is shorter so the mothers can jump out. When the pups get a little older, the doors are opened and the pups have free run in the room and learn to socialize, and potty train. She spends time with every pup. I say, if you are looking for a tiny, she is a good person to go to.... Sorry if I make people angry. Guess I am just a dummie to you.... I don't think so! | |
04-22-2013, 04:53 PM | #24 | |
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06-16-2014, 03:37 PM | #25 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bonners Ferry ID
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| This is an old conversation- but my little 2 lb girl came from Rose Hanson - healthy and happy and well socialized and is the best damn dog I have ever owned. She flew attended by a great lady who drove 2.5 hrs to get her to me personally after the flight and rose checked in on her frequently. Little dogs have risks - but not every breeder or little dogs is themselves a risk. I would buy a dog from her again, but I am hoping for a long relationship with mine - she's doing great. |
06-16-2014, 04:01 PM | #26 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
06-16-2014, 05:10 PM | #27 | |
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Do you have pups from her? How old are they?
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06-16-2014, 06:29 PM | #28 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Germantown, Tn,USA
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| Itty bitty Yorkies / Rose. I did research on Rose after reading these blogs. I bought one and loved her so much that I bought a second from there. 1 is 3 1/2 pounds and the 2nd is 3. pounds. They are great. I love these new additions to my furry family. I have 5 all together. |
06-16-2014, 06:52 PM | #29 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| If you bought from itty bitty yorkies then there is no way you did research at least not on yorkies and good breeders of yorkies.
__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! |
06-16-2014, 08:39 PM | #30 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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| Of course your babies are not $6000.00. Like you said, they are not "micro" "mini" "teacups"....they are "just" healthy, proven lines, puppies produced from show dogs....genetically tested, sound, healthy, with a health guarantee.....from a responsible, reputable, ethical breeder......Perhaps you would consider selling her one of your babies for $6000.00? If someone is willing to pay that amount for a puppy that is advertised as micro or teacup, then I am sure they would be willing to spend that amount for a quality pup that follows the template for the breed standard! It isnt like you would be "taking advantage" of them...you would actually be doing them a huge favor! |
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