For Sale and only 5 weeks old!

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

That's exactly my point!!!

It is not her fault that people did not read the last sentence of her ad. I certainly hope that none of you ever find yourselves sick and not thinking of every little detail. For heavens sake, give the woman a break. She did not have to come on and identify herself at all.

It is very difficult for us mere mortals to compete with all of you perfect people on here. Those of you who always phrase everything right and always have just the right word to convey your exact thoughts, and never have typos or omissions.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

It is not her fault that people did not read the last sentence of her ad. I certainly hope that none of you ever find yourselves sick and not thinking of every little detail. For heavens sake, give the woman a break. She did not have to come on and identify herself at all.

It is very difficult for us mere mortals to compete with all of you perfect people on here. Those of you who always phrase everything right and always have just the right word to convey your exact thoughts, and never have typos or omissions.

Wow.... how did you go from this:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3360611-post2.html
to what you just posted? Even if the ad was written by a long time YT member it still wasn't right when it was first posted. You had the same impression I did from what you originally posted. I'm glad Sugar' mom made the correction to help clear it up. Granted maybe she was in a hurry when she posted it, maybe she wasn't sure what to post, I don't know what the situation was, it was still an ad that gave the impression the pup would be sent to a new home sooner rather than later.

I'm just surprised at how quickly you turned around to attacking those who were concerned. So if it wasn't a YT member, and they didn't go back to edit it, would you still be ok with the ad, or would you still be concerned? I'm just asking, it's not a personal attack.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

Wow.... how did you go from this:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/3360611-post2.html
to what you just posted? Even if the ad was written by a long time YT member it still wasn't right when it was first posted. You had the same impression I did from what you originally posted. I'm glad Sugar' mom made the correction to help clear it up. Granted maybe she was in a hurry when she posted it, maybe she wasn't sure what to post, I don't know what the situation was, it was still an ad that gave the impression the pup would be sent to a new home sooner rather than later.

I'm just surprised at how quickly you turned around to attacking those who were concerned. So if it wasn't a YT member, and they didn't go back to edit it, would you still be ok with the ad, or would you still be concerned? I'm just asking, it's not a personal attack.

Because I had not read the ad when I made that comment, and I appologized for jumping to conclusions. I was big enough to admit that I had made a mistake. A concept that many of you do not seem to understand.

I do not believe it is right to sell a 5 week old puppy, but she said that she was taking deposits. yes she could have made it clearer and she admitted that and agreed to go back and edit the ad.

No I would not be OK with selling a 5 week old puppy. but it is not her fault that we did not read the entire ad before attacking her.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

I'm sorry Sugra's Mom that you're not well. I hope you are feeling better soon!

I do however think your ad will make people think this pup will be ready to go home by Christmas. It has a lot of the same qualities that we warn new puppy owners about. At first glance (before you edited it) it sounded like because of you're illness you wanted to find his forever home sooner rather than later. Again, it could be just silly assumptions I made, but that is the impression I got from it.

I see you added he will not leave until 12 weeks old, that's good! And prank calling from YT members is uncalled for.

You should have seen some of thee emails. When I posted the ad, I had just gotten home from the hospital.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

It is not her fault that people did not read the last sentence of her ad. I certainly hope that none of you ever find yourselves sick and not thinking of every little detail. For heavens sake, give the woman a break. She did not have to come on and identify herself at all.

It is very difficult for us mere mortals to compete with all of you perfect people on here. Those of you who always phrase everything right and always have just the right word to convey your exact thoughts, and never have typos or omissions.

Her last sentence only said "Deposit to Hold". It did not say only sold with a deposit to hold or all puppies held til 12 weeks. So, in no way could anyone have assumed she meant that before the change was made. It merely appears to offer a possibility.

I hope when I make mistakes, which has happened many times before and will happen many times again, someone points it out to me. That happened just the other day and I had to make a correction. I think everyone was very nice in what was said here. No one wants to beat up on anyone, epecially when they are sick. Saying it would be better worded a different way is not being mean. She did go change her ad, so a good thing happened here. She said some had called expecting to get the puppy before Christmas so amending the ad is a good thing to prevent further misunderstandings.

I have noticed it does seem to matter a great deal who is doing something, as to whether or not all will say anything against it or not. If we really believe something, it should not matter who is doing it -- wrong is wrong. In this case, an improvement was made and I am always glad for that.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I'm sorry that you have not been well. But to be perfectly honest with you all of your medical emergency I too have dealt with in the past. Actually, I had 5 units of blood and then was DXed with ovarian cancer and had a Total hysterectomy, lost my job, fell and broke my arm in 3 places and went through 6 months of Physical Therapy to recuperate.. But none of that has to do with selling a puppy.

Let me further say that I had NOT IDEA that this was a member of YT who posted such an ad. To me, when I was asked about the ad it was full of red flags. I am NOT going to apologize for a belief system that I follow regarding how a breeder should be chosen. I also an not ashamed of myself for speaking up when I see something that is suspect. There have been plenty of times that others have posted about breeders claiming to be ill and needing to sell their puppies.

I would like to know who the YT members are that would be prank calling your home. Seems pretty childish to me. Do you have proof of this and if you do then you should be naming names .

Lastly, if you are no longer active on YT how was it that within 8 MINUTES of my post that you were defending your actions and verbally attacking me

Didn't say I didn't read at times and as soon as I saw your post, I knew it was my pup. As far as me being defensive, yes I am. Do you blame me. Do you expect me just to roll over the way I did before? Sorry, those days are over.

[BaxtersMommy]

I can not get over the insensitivity from the same ole people over and over!

Dee, I truly hope you are better and continue to gain your strength. Just ignore the ignorance and do not let it upset you. I honestly can't believe you did not get an apology. If your add did not say he was being sold at 5 weeks, you deserve an apology, end of discussion.

All of you have stated your opinions a million times on where you stand as rescuers, breeders, the show ring etc. At some point you need to get a life and stop making others feel like crap because they are not YOU! Live your life with your convictions but dont point fingers at people who live by different standards.

You would think some of the breeders on this site were Michael Vick by the way you people treat them! You should be ashamed of your childish ways! Live with your convictions, but treat people with kindness. Have you ever thought that by doing so, you might gain a friend or change someone's way of breeding, etc?

Some of you are down right rude and hateful.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by BaxtersMommy

I can not get over the insensitivity from the same ole people over and over!

Dee, I truly hope you are better and continue to gain your strength. Just ignore the ignorance and do not let it upset you. I honestly can't believe you did not get an apology. If your add did not say he was being sold at 5 weeks, you deserve an apology, end of discussion.

All of you have stated your opinions a million times on where you stand as rescuers, breeders, the show ring etc. At some point you need to get a life and stop making others feel like crap because they are not YOU! Live your life with your convictions but dont point fingers at people who live by different standards.

You would think some of the breeders on this site were Michael Vick by the way you people treat them! You should be ashamed of your childish ways! Live with your convictions, but treat people with kindness. Have you ever thought that by doing so, you might gain a friend or change someone's way of breeding, etc?

Some of you are down right rude and hateful.

Thank you Dana!!!!!

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by BaxtersMommy

I can not get over the insensitivity from the same ole people over and over!

Dee, I truly hope you are better and continue to gain your strength. Just ignore the ignorance and do not let it upset you. I honestly can't believe you did not get an apology. If your add did not say he was being sold at 5 weeks, you deserve an apology, end of discussion.

All of you have stated your opinions a million times on where you stand as rescuers, breeders, the show ring etc. At some point you need to get a life and stop making others feel like crap because they are not YOU! Live your life with your convictions but dont point fingers at people who live by different standards.

You would think some of the breeders on this site were Michael Vick by the way you people treat them! You should be ashamed of your childish ways! Live with your convictions, but treat people with kindness. Have you ever thought that by doing so, you might gain a friend or change someone's way of breeding, etc?

Some of you are down right rude and hateful.

Some of us really do care about the breed, and aren't making a buck on it.

[MaddiesMommie]

Was this line that was added?:

This puppy will not leave until he is 12 weeks old.

[Sugar's Mom]

Now meganssmomm mentioned the Beagles. If some of you that have so much time on your hands would go to the show forum and do a search on me from about two years back, you would see all about those puppymill Beagles. LOl There are pictures posted of trophy's AKC ribbons and awards. The hubby takes care of the Beagles and he is now semi retired. he has bred, trained and shown, all in AKC, 11 champions of his own and many, many more for others. These are gundogs. he is in the MidWest Gundog Assoc. Hall of Fame. Indian Hills Kennel is quite well know . Not the one in Florida. My husband is VERY well known . The most he is doing right now at 71 years old is training for other people. We have a five acre training pen on the back of our farm.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by MaddiesMommie

Was this line that was added?:

This puppy will not leave until he is 12 weeks old.

yes it was when people pointed out that I needed to say more than "deposit to hold". I just assummed people ought to know that a five week old puppy is not going anywhere. My misstake.

[BaxtersMommy]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Some of us really do care about the breed, and aren't making a buck on it.

And some can do that with kindness and without harassment. Sorry, not a good enough excuse.

[Sugar's Mom]

Jeaniee, it is fixed now, I think.

[MaddiesMommie]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

yes it was when people pointed out that I needed to say more than "deposit to hold". I just assummed people ought to know that a five week old puppy is not going anywhere. My misstake.

I woud think that since you have been here since 2005 you have really had a dose of the 'age to sell debate' and that would be one of the first things you would think of.