Yorkshire Terrier Club of Ethical Hobby Breeders

[WinstonMom]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

It means you should be asking questions not giving opinions on a subject that you know nothing about.

The young lady's posts were full of question marks, indicating that she was asking questions. She also states that she has done a lot of research on the partis and the Biewers. So yes, the comment is harsh. This young lady is going about things the proper way and she has every right to express her opinion. And there is nothing in the rules that says you to have to own a yorkie to make a comment.

[Disney]

[quote=Elle;3210559]

Originally Posted by magicgenie

My best dogs are imports. The shut-out and control issues I felt early on, mostly by YTCA, sent me overseas to get good dogs. There are not many in the US I would even consider bringing into my breeding now. Foreign breeders are more professional and businesslike, and the price is usually high enough to keep the mills and BYB away. My dogs and puppies are consistently in excellent health and beautiful. Getting the exact blue and gold described in the YTCA standard is hellish and one has to be careful not to compromise health to get it. People should go to shows and see with their own eyes the pretty little correct blue and gold specimens some politically connected YTCA members are stringing up and dragging, limping, around the ring, and winning titles with this unsound junk.
I've enjoyed this thread very much, learned a few things, and remain open minded and tolerant of differences.



It blows my mind how people will criticize our confirmation standards because they don't have yorkies good enough to fit in. They take short cuts then say things like this to justify them.

Only after you are actually showing in AKC can you judge what is being shown. You cannot go to a show one day to decide what is being put in the ring. This post is rude.

Sure there are some yorkies in the ring that are inferior to others. I spend my life at shows. Saying that members are dragging around unsound junk is a slap in our face. You paint your broad brush too. Where is the compromise to health? Foreign breeders, just look at what they are putting in the ring. We don't really want to talk about heath do we?




I'm so tired of people saying bad things about the YTCA. People just want to justify what they are breeding.

Did anyone look at the presidents website? Does everyone know? Miracle Yorkies. We know her history.

By the way, our standard is not gold. It is tan. People want to take short cuts to breed inferior dogs. Showing is hard work. It's expensive and you have to have exceptional yorkies. Few people have them. Few people are committed to doing it. They will make many excuses for having inferior dogs instead of saying the real reasons. I'm sick and tired of people bashing us.

Breeders want to breed to make money. They can sugar coat it anyway they like. There's no ethics in that.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Advice? She wasn't offering any advice, not about breeding or anything else that's going to cause any "harm." She was stating her opinion on the matter, which she is entitled to do. It was no more or less than what anyone else here as posted. As much as Partis are discussed here, who on Earth do you think is going to take that one opinion out of all the rest and see it as the gospel?

Don't bother. I not liked and some believe I should not has opinion. Best to ignore nasty comment.

[Disney]

Originally Posted by WinstonMom

The young lady's posts were full of question marks, indicating that she was asking questions. She also states that she has done a lot of research on the partis and the Biewers. So yes, the comment is harsh. This young lady is going about things the proper way and she has every right to express her opinion. And there is nothing in the rules that says you to have to own a yorkie to make a comment.

Thanks you, but as I say best to let go. This very interesting thread and I no want it locked.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Elle

I'm so tired of people saying bad things about the YTCA. People just want to justify what they are breeding.

Did anyone look at the presidents website? Does everyone know? Miracle Yorkies. We know her history.

By the way, our standard is not gold. It is tan. People want to take short cuts to breed inferior dogs. Showing is hard work. It's expensive and you have to have exceptional yorkies. Few people have them. Few people are committed to doing it. They will make many excuses for having inferior dogs instead of saying the real reasons. I'm sick and tired of people bashing us.

Breeders want to breed to make money. They can sugar coat it anyway they like. There's no ethics in that.

You do not know what every breeders motive for breeding is, nor do you know what every exhibitors motive for showing is. There are ethical and unethical in both groups.

To lump them all together is very prejudice. Many breeders have the best interest of the dog in mind, and have their own reasons for not showing.

And many exhibitors are doing it just for the trophy or for the title and don't care what they have to do to get it.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Disney

Why only I not allow opinion Jeanie?

Because your opinion is not supportive of those breeding Partis. That is generally how things turn out in these threads--everything is taken as a challenge. You can bet that if you'd commented gushing over how gorgeous Partis are and how you planned to get one some day, you wouldn't have been told to keep it to yourself.

[WinstonMom]

Originally Posted by Disney

Thanks you, but as I say best to let go. This very interesting thread and I no want it locked.

This is an extremely mature comment. I admire that.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Because your opinion is not supportive of those breeding Partis. That is generally how things turn out in these threads--everything is taken as a challenge. You can bet that if you'd commented gushing over how gorgeous Partis are and how you planned to get one some day, you wouldn't have been told to keep it to yourself.

No you are wrong. It would not matter which side she took because her opinion means nothing to me.

She has no knowledge of the subject and therefore should be learning.

And that is the last that I have to say on this matter.

[Disney]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Because your opinion is not supportive of those breeding Partis. That is generally how things turn out in these threads--everything is taken as a challenge. You can bet that if you'd commented gushing over how gorgeous Partis are and how you planned to get one some day, you wouldn't have been told to keep it to yourself.

Ahh well Bama, you were no talk to like garbage and you not in favour of partis. This all very personal and should be left to PM but no one ever seem to take that offer...

Originally Posted by WinstonMom

This is an extremely mature comment. I admire that.

Thanks you! It hard to keep lip together when nasty rise but someone need to be bigger man..So speak!

Originally Posted by JeanieK

No you are wrong. It would not matter which side she took because her opinion means nothing to me.

She has no knowledge of the subject and therefore should be learning.

And that is the last that I have to say on this matter.

Okay, then how about just NOT COMMENT on what I say? My opinion mean nothing? Then ignore. Don't stir pot. You not teenager. Stick to topic and ignore my post.

And that all I have to say on this matter.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

No you are wrong. It would not matter which side she took because her opinion means nothing to me.

She has no knowledge of the subject and therefore should be learning.

Your opinion is dually noted. Fortunately for the rest of us, that is not your decision to dictate.

Don't feel bad Disney, if the whole Parti/Biewer aspect of Yorkies has you confused, then you are right on par with the majority of the members here...non owners and owners alike.

[Breezeaway]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Because your opinion is not supportive of those breeding Partis. That is generally how things turn out in these threads--everything is taken as a challenge. You can bet that if you'd commented gushing over how gorgeous Partis are and how you planned to get one some day, you wouldn't have been told to keep it to yourself.

Please do not lump all parti breeders to posts made by JeanieK, she speaks for herself not everyone.

[Disney]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Your opinion is dually noted. Fortunately for the rest of us, that is not your decision to dictate.

Don't feel bad Disney, if the whole Parti/Biewer aspect of Yorkies has you confused, then you are right on par with the majority of the members here...non owners and owners alike.

Everyone has different opinion! I research lot and everyone story is different. Enough to turn hair curls!

I come to conclusion: I believe in standard. When everyone get story straight and if ever parti accepted into standard and everyone get story straight, then I welcome breeding because not off colour, they be standard!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

Please do not lump all parti breeders to posts made by JeanieK, she speaks for herself not everyone.

You are right. My apologies.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Disney

I think you miss point a bit. Nancy mean the standard for colour is vague. She asking how would a parti be judge in ring because their no real colour standard..Coat wise, what would judge be look for? (Genuine question, I confused.) Just that they colourful? Is there any define marking? Or just...Well..Not be blue and tan? How would you change the Yorkshire standard as is now to include parti? (also serious question, I really want know.)

Yes, you understood this correctly. It was a serious question.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Yes, you understood this correctly. It was a serious question.

there is no other descriptioln for parti. It is random spotting.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

there is no other descriptioln for parti. It is random spotting.

Don't you understand that you need more of a description that that? You need to be more specific on head, legs, and saddle color. How would a judge decide on the best example of the parti color if there is no real description? How would breeders know which dogs to breed if there was no real description? If you are just breeding for the parti trait and that all, then you are only breeding for pets.