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Old 06-29-2010, 08:09 AM   #46
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You're welcome! This wasn't started to start anything. It's all about education on the "Yorkshire Terrier" standard and following simple rules set forth by the YTCA and the passion I have for the Yorkshire Terrier. Those of us that want to uphold the Yorkshire Terrier and it's standard is to preserve it. If those that want to know about the standard and what is important with the standard and the Yorkshire Terrier and interested in showing in "AKC" this allows those people to make a choice. It's educational information not paranoia or a desperate attempt to sway away from any off color yorkie if that is what one wants ok fine but it's not allowed for the show ring and it's discouraged and considered a "genetic" fault just like any other color even though it's an accepted color for AKC. If anyone doesn't like or want to hear about the "standard" yorkshire terrier please ignore or let's play nice
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Love your website. Lot's of great information.

ETA - It shows how hard you have worked.
Thank you My website is just to show off my yorkies and our accomplishments I also have a page of my pets whom I cherish as much as my show dogs! But all are pets first and show dogs second

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Let me also add....when breeding to the standard set forth by the YTCA for the "Yorkshire Terrier" you want to breed out the faults that are not desired for what the standard calls for. Until that changes the off color yorkie is not within the standard set forth by the YTCA and not allowed to show in AKC shows. I'm not saying they are not a yorkshire terrier but they do not conform to the standard. Until that changes (which is not going to change anytime in the near future) one must strive to keep the breed standard as close as possible. Although, the off color yorkie is not a life threatening genetic fault it is considered a major fault within the yorkie standard just like a bad topline, bad ear set, undershot bite, overshot bite, bad fronts and bad rears...not good traits to have to conform to the yorkie standard.

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Can I ask what is meant by breeding out the faults? I am really enjoying this thread. Lots of great info.
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Can I ask what is meant by breeding out the faults? I am really enjoying this thread. Lots of great info.
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But, in answer to your question. When a breeder is breeding to improve the breed, they are constantly assessing their lines. So, if say (and this is a for instance) if you have a female that has a low tail set, you would want to breed that out. So, you look for a male that has that great tail set and of course a good tail set should be consistent in his pedigree....you would breed that female to that male.
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Let me add the above was a simple explaination. A lot more comes into play. Understanding recessive and dominant genes. Some faults take generations of breeding to breed out faults (therefore, the imporatance of line breeding to set type). In my opinion, it's best to start with the best of the best in your breeding stock. Then of course there is the life threatening genetic diseases....that is a bit more complicated.
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If anyone is interested in a really good book that talks a lot about breeding and genetics i found it. I just got it a couple days ago. It is called the ABC'S of Dog Breeding. It is split into 3 sections. A book to learn, a workbook and flash cards. If you send your completed book into AKC you get a certificate of completion. I have just started reading it and it is packed full of useful info. It is not specific to our breed but a general book but still excellent. I am new into showing and will eventually start breeding but between now and then i am learning as much as a i can.
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Let me add the above was a simple explaination. A lot more comes into play. Understanding recessive and dominant genes. Some faults take generations of breeding to breed out faults (therefore, the imporatance of line breeding to set type). In my opinion, it's best to start with the best of the best in your breeding stock. Then of course there is the life threatening genetic diseases....that is a bit more complicated.
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Thank you for explaining in laymen's terms. I am just beginning to learn and may have many questions along the way. Thank you again.

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Thank you for explaining in laymen's terms. I am just beginning to learn and may have many questions along the way. Thank you again.

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I've said this many times. YT can be a good please to obtain some education, but it's only the tip of the iceburg. The best way to to learn is to find a mentor. One that is well versed in yorkies, one that is showing or has shown. With such a person, they will assist you in directing you in the right path. What classes to take, what seminars to attend and they are many.
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I've said this many times. YT can be a good please to obtain some education, but it's only the tip of the iceburg. The best way to to learn is to find a mentor. One that is well versed in yorkies, one that is showing or has shown. With such a person, they will assist you in directing you in the right path. What classes to take, what seminars to attend and they are many.

I have seen you give this advice a hundred times over in various threads along the way and I want you to know that I intend to take it. Reading your posts and advice to others has made me want to strive to become a great breeder, and I know it will take many years before I can even start. I am trying to find a great mentor in my area. Unfortunately, I am not having much luck, but I will not give up. In the mean, I am trying to absorb as much information as I possibly can. I would also like to gather a list of questions I should ask potential mentors that would make me feel more comfortable in my choice. If you have any input on that, I would greatly appreciate it.
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What a wonderful thread. I think this is the most informative thread I've read on yt in quite some time. Thank you
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I have seen you give this advice a hundred times over in various threads along the way and I want you to know that I intend to take it. Reading your posts and advice to others has made me want to strive to become a great breeder, and I know it will take many years before I can even start. I am trying to find a great mentor in my area. Unfortunately, I am not having much luck, but I will not give up. In the mean, I am trying to absorb as much information as I possibly can. I would also like to gather a list of questions I should ask potential mentors that would make me feel more comfortable in my choice. If you have any input on that, I would greatly appreciate it.
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You live in the Carolina's/mid-atlantic states. You have some great breeders out there. I'm not sure how many dog shows you attend but, always a great place to start.

When searching for your mentor.....you want one that has a great line, respected, well known. The person you chose as your mentor is usually going to be your breeder. Someone that you have a trusting relationship with. It's not about asking questions....it's about trust. I know when I hung around the dog shows and began helping exhibitors, my mouth was shut and I listened to everyword these people were saying....I absorbed like a sponge. It took me a few years to build that trust with my mentor.....it didn't happen over night......Your mentor will look into your heart.

There was a great article in one of the YT Magazines on how to find a mentor. I think I may have posted it on here....

I will say I may never be a great breeder in the sense of say a Roberta Rothenbach, Lee Grunewald, Lorraine Hayes, Sharon McCadam, Doreen Hubbard......these women are legends.....But, in everything I do, I try to honor them since they are the ones that worked so hard and contributed to my dog's pedigrees......
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You live in the Carolina's/mid-atlantic states. You have some great breeders out there. I'm not sure how many dog shows you attend but, always a great place to start.

When searching for your mentor.....you want one that has a great line, respected, well known. The person you chose as your mentor is usually going to be your breeder. Someone that you have a trusting relationship with. It's not about asking questions....it's about trust. I know when I hung around the dog shows and began helping exhibitors, my mouth was shut and I listened to everyword these people were saying....I absorbed like a sponge. It took me a few years to build that trust with my mentor.....it didn't happen over night......Your mentor will look into your heart.
There was a great article in one of the YT Magazines on how to find a mentor. I think I may have posted it on here....

I will say I may never be a great breeder in the sense of say a Roberta Rothenbach, Lee Grunewald, Lorraine Hayes, Sharon McCadam, Doreen Hubbard......these women are legends.....But, in everything I do, I try to honor them since they are the ones that worked so hard and contributed to my dog's pedigrees......

What a great post, I don't why, but it brought tears to my eyes.
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