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Old 06-26-2010, 03:12 PM   #1
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Default All i can say is "thank you god!!"

It scares me to death, when I think of how close I came to becoming a BYB. Yes, I said a backyard breeder. I have two Yorkies (Emma and Dawson) and I love them dearly. I have done research, spending hours on the computer, trying to read as much as I could about breeding, the whelping process, the signs, the complications, the joys, and the sorrows. I started and maintained a pregnancy fund, went to Vet got all the tests and got the green light to proceed.

My intentions for breeding was to produce pups for my two daughters who have both recently gotten married. They too love our Yorkies and wanted very much to have a little piece of Emma and Dawson in their homes. I bred Emma and Dawson in April of this year. I mean why not it is a normal process. Most dogs go through it and do just fine. I put no second thought to pedigrees, bloodlines, genetics, or birth defects.

Not long after the breeding, I joined this forum. In my experience here, all responses were very caring and had an abundance of knowledge. As I began to read hundreds of threads, I began to realize that this is not a decision to be made lightly.

I have always loved this breed, but now I have a new found respect for it. I no longer want to produce puppies for the sake of having little Emma and Dawsons running around. I want the breed to be better, stronger, and healthier. I would love to become a breeder some day to preserve this wonderful breed.

As of late, there have been many forums where posters feel they are being bashed by the experienced breeders here on YT and for the record, I am not talking about any one specifically. I will say that it is unfair to ask advice, receive advice, use the advice, and not expect the advisor to voice their opinion on the situation. You need to realize that this advice is coming from people who are extremely passionate about this breed and the preservation of great blood lines in the hopes that all outcomes are healthy, happy, sturdy puppies. When you spend money on a new car, you don't expect it to have a 20 year old engine. I believe the same principle applies here. I will also say that however harsh they have come across to you, these posts have made me wake up and smell the daisies.

I am here and I want to learn as much about this wonderful breed as I possibly can. I refuse to become a BYB. I want to help preserve this wonderful breed and will NEVER breed this pair again. It turns out that the breeding did not take as Emma's heat cycles are irregular and she cannot produce. "THANK YOU GOD!!" The pregnancy fund is being used to spay Emma and the remainder is being used to research this beautiful breed by way of books, classes, showings, and finding the perfect mentor. I will become a breeder, but only after I have gone through the proper channels and education needed to do the job correctly.

TO THE BREEDERS HERE AT YT: PLEASE DO NOT LET ANYONE DETURR YOU FROM POSTING!! THANK YOU ALL.

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Nice post.

I appreciate your explanation and I hope that other people new to breeding will read it and understand.
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Nicely put! Good for you, realizing you do not want to be a byb!
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I'm sure that your thoughtful and kind words will be greatly appreciated by all of the caring breeders that help to share their knowledge.
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WOW what an impressive post ! Thank you for your honesty and I hope others read it and think hard also. Congratulations on the intent to do things right and all the best
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Great post YorkieProud! I joined YT before I even had a Yorkie, but I wanted to get one to breed. I too didn't have the right intentions for breeding and only planned to produce pets. Since then I have learned a lot and developed a deep love and passion for the breed. I now enjoy showing and learning about bettering the breed; I wouldn't breed a dog unless I'm confident through researching that the pair will make an improvement. I find researching pedigrees quite interesting.
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Awesome thread! I love the honesty and I'm glad you were able to see behind the initial "don't breed" message and go on to really learn why. I'm sure that with time and knowledge, you will be an awesome breeder!
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YorkieProud, thank you for this post!! It's the best one I've read in a long time. I'm very glad you realize why breeders get upset when they see someone breeding their pet quality Yorkies to have some cute little puppies or even worse, just to have something to sell.

There are some very experienced breeders on Yorkie Talk who are more than willing to give their time and knowledge to help anyone who is really wanting to learn. You're right they can get very passionate and have little patience with people wanting to breed mutts and poor quality Yorkies which doesn't help the breed at all.

If you're going to breed Yorkies, you should breed quality Yorkies as close to the standard as possible. Learn as much as you can about the dogs behind your dogs. If you don't know what's behind them, how are you going to know what they are capable of producing?
Study the pedigrees of the dogs you like and see how they were bred to produce it.

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I love this thread!! I feel exactly the same way as the OP. I got the best advice ever on YT and I also decided to do it the right way, or not at all. I'm very happy to see that there are other people who feel the same way! I'm also very happy that your little girl didn't take. You just saved yourself and your pet so much trouble for nothing but having more cute puppies.

All puppies are cute and once they are here, we have to take care of them. But why put all that love and attention into a puppy who may not make it to 6 months?

My grandmother used to BYB Weimaraners and when we got a puppy who had to be put down at 6 months because of a missing inner ear (tube), we never connected the dots. And she kept breeding the same sire and dam. I have no idea who else got a sick puppy from her!! The reason that the ear problem was so huge was because of the size of the dog: he would be unable to balance himself and he would never live a normal, happy life.

If it wasn't for YT and the excellent breeders here, I wouldn't know anything! In the last two days, I learnt that if our first puppy from grandma had been vaccinated, he would have lived past 3 months (parvo). I also learnt that my first dog, a staffie called Jess, would have lived past 6 months had my parents vaccinated her against parvo. My parents didn't have the information available to them - I am so glad that I do!!
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I appreciate the responses to this thread. I hope it will reach someone who may take what the breeders say the wrong way. However harsh the words may seem there is truth in what was said.

There is an old saying that goes like this: "THE TRUTH HURTS DOESN'T IT"

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It scares me to death, when I think of how close I came to becoming a BYB. Yes, I said a backyard breeder. I have two Yorkies (Emma and Dawson) and I love them dearly. I have done research, spending hours on the computer, trying to read as much as I could about breeding, the whelping process, the signs, the complications, the joys, and the sorrows. I started and maintained a pregnancy fund, went to Vet got all the tests and got the green light to proceed.

My intentions for breeding was to produce pups for my two daughters who have both recently gotten married. They too love our Yorkies and wanted very much to have a little piece of Emma and Dawson in their homes. I bred Emma and Dawson in April of this year. I mean why not it is a normal process. Most dogs go through it and do just fine. I put no second thought to pedigrees, bloodlines, genetics, or birth defects.

Not long after the breeding, I joined this forum. In my experience here, all responses were very caring and had an abundance of knowledge. As I began to read hundreds of threads, I began to realize that this is not a decision to be made lightly.

I have always loved this breed, but now I have a new found respect for it. I no longer want to produce puppies for the sake of having little Emma and Dawsons running around. I want the breed to be better, stronger, and healthier. I would love to become a breeder some day to preserve this wonderful breed.

As of late, there have been many forums where posters feel they are being bashed by the experienced breeders here on YT and for the record, I am not talking about any one specifically. I will say that it is unfair to ask advice, receive advice, use the advice, and not expect the advisor to voice their opinion on the situation. You need to realize that this advice is coming from people who are extremely passionate about this breed and the preservation of great blood lines in the hopes that all outcomes are healthy, happy, sturdy puppies. When you spend money on a new car, you don't expect it to have a 20 year old engine. I believe the same principle applies here. I will also say that however harsh they have come across to you, these posts have made me wake up and smell the daisies.

I am here and I want to learn as much about this wonderful breed as I possibly can. I refuse to become a BYB. I want to help preserve this wonderful breed and will NEVER breed this pair again. It turns out that the breeding did not take as Emma's heat cycles are irregular and she cannot produce. "THANK YOU GOD!!" The pregnancy fund is being used to spay Emma and the remainder is being used to research this beautiful breed by way of books, classes, showings, and finding the perfect mentor. I will become a breeder, but only after I have gone through the proper channels and education needed to do the job correctly.

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I appreciate the responses to this thread. I hope it will reach someone who may take what the breeders say the wrong way. However harsh the words may seem there is truth in what was said.

There is an old saying that goes like this: "THE TRUTH HURTS DOESN'T IT"
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Your post speaks volumes of you. Your willingness to learn and listen; or in this case read.

Your old saying will be paid attention to by those that are willing to listen.

Should you decide to continue on in the journey of breeding the Yorkshire Terrier, I know in my heart that you will do it the correct way.
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