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Old 04-16-2010, 10:16 AM   #1
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My Darcy is 8 months old and is just finishing her first heat cycle. My mom has a 15 month old male that I would like to breed one litter with. I don't want to become a breeder and my motives are not monetary. My grandfather wants a yorkie really bad and can't afford to buy one. I just want to have one litter to make sure he gets one. Can anyone give me any advice on this topic before her next heat? I am just worried about my baby girl and now after I've promised Papa pick of the litter, I don't like the idea of putting my baby girl through that!!!
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My Darcy is 8 months old and is just finishing her first heat cycle. My mom has a 15 month old male that I would like to breed one litter with. I don't want to become a breeder and my motives are not monetary. My grandfather wants a yorkie really bad and can't afford to buy one. I just want to have one litter to make sure he gets one. Can anyone give me any advice on this topic before her next heat? I am just worried about my baby girl and now after I've promised Papa pick of the litter, I don't like the idea of putting my baby girl through that!!
I don't blame you. I recommend you do lots of reading first, people don't often understand that the toy breeds have so many more problems than the larger breeds. Knowing the line of your dogs is important because you do not want to risk your baby having too large of puppies who may require her to have an emergency cesarean, which can be very expensive. For example, both your dog and the dog she mates with, may be the smallest of all their relatives, and when they mate, the babies could be huge, you don't just factor in the weight of mom and dad to predict the weight of puppies. There so many health tests you need to be sure both dogs aren't passing genetic health risks, and that’s why many breeders feel like breeding just one litter is so expensive. I've talked with experienced breeders who have been doing this for years, and they are actually VERY frightened each time they decide to breed. They know that there is always a health risk, and they know all the things to look for and what to do in an emergency. Many also know, how hard it is to lose a beloved dog through breeding. It's hard enough for the experienced breeders I would never recommend an experienced person do it, too much to learn, and one failure on your part means the loss of your dog.

I think I would look at rescues for gramps, there are many great dogs for less than three hundred dollars, which is much less than you will spend on whelping supplies, and vet care. You sound like a wonderful granddaughter, by the way!
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Can I second the idea to find a rescue for your papa? After just going through a heat, unplanned pregnancy and VERY EXPENSIVE delivery I can tell you that if things don't go right you will be paying for a $1200 c-section and at that price might have well just bought a very well bred yorkie puppy! It sounds like a good idea..."I get my dog pregnant, I have puppies and poof I can give pops a puppy for free and make some money too! Not a bad idea!" I know your motivation is NOT money but can I just tell you as someone who was also inexperienced... it was WAY more money than I ever could have imagine! Even if the delivery goes fine you are still going to have to pay for shots, tail docking and any vet visits you may need to have which is another 800-1000 for a litter! And it is a ton of work! Making sure that the mama is ok and babies are thriving! I have barely left my house in the last month and she only had one puppy! It is a round the clock job! Please just research it, think about it realistically and carefully and if you are dead set on the idea get a mentor who can guide you through the process. But look into a rescue which might be the perfect idea for him...already grown, through the puppy and potty stage and a great companion and not loads of money! If you have any other questions about what I experienced I would be glad to answer them! I love napoleon to death and we are keeping him but can I just assure you that you will pay that money in having a litter or you can bypass the work and the risk, leave it to the pros and pay for a puppy or a rescue! Good luck with everything!!
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I have to say i support the idea of going to a rescue for your gramps. You can get a healthy dog, who is housetrained, and maybe leash and obedience trained.

$300 for a rescue is minimal to what you will need to invest into all the health checks on the dam,sire, and the puppies.

Read Mary's post above it is so right on.

I wish you all the best, and you are a great loving granddaughter.
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I have to agree with what maryeverett and the other have stated.

Finding him a rescue or even buying him a pup from an already established breeder will be a better option for you, your girl, and will be less costly in the long run. Ethical breeding is more involved than just sticking two dogs together and letting nature take its course. You would need to do some extensive studying of the lines of the two dogs, the breeding process by ways of working with a mentor, and loads of health tests just for starters.
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I agree with the others too, but wanted to add that puppies are SO much work and are so hyper. i don't know how old your grandpa is, but an older more mellow dog may be better for his situation. Good luck!
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I have to say i support the idea of going to a rescue for your gramps. You can get a healthy dog, who is housetrained, and maybe leash and obedience trained.

$300 for a rescue is minimal to what you will need to invest into all the health checks on the dam,sire, and the puppies.
Not only that, a rescue will more than likely already be spayed or neutered. If money is so tight that he can't afford to buy a puppy, having the spay/neuter already done and paid for is a big plus. Also, no need to go through the worry and the recovery process.
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Hi my name is Tammy and i am a breeder, not just a breeder a darn great breeder, I would have to agree with the other posts. Breeding is very hard
lot and lot of sleeples nights, and yes the vet bills can be over the roof,
There is so much to learn, You are looking at waiting 1 1/2 to 2 yrs to be able to breed this female, Then not sure she can be breed. Honey i think i would get a puppie else were, In the long run it wil save you money and maybe a lot of heart ache. Good Luck in what you choose.
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There is a lot more to breeding than meets the eye... do tons of research and take a look at some old posts around this forum. Like this one:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...t-breeder.html

Or this one:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...a-breeder.html
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hi darcy, i agree with the above- a shelter dog would probably be his best bet (i have rescued a few different dogs over the years and they have been soo rediculously grateful to have a home i almost felt bad for wanting a puppy as well, but i do love my girls!
they really are super active nearly all the time; i have a 10 week old litter running around my feet as i'm typing this (it's 1.43 and they havn't calmed down yet tonight for some reason!) even if all goes well with the pregnancy and whelping, its still not a cert that all will be well- i had a tragic loss of a 7 1/2 week old pup- she was in the puppy pen with her littermates when play (i'm assuming) got a little too rough and she bumped her head. when i found her i crumbled to the floor screaming in shock and saddness and won't get over it for years if ever at all. when i called my mentor to let her know she also cried- it wasnt even her puppy and shes lost some of her own in the past.
this is the kind of thing you do need to be aware happens and nomatter what you do, sometimes a puppy only gets a few weeks, or a few days before its their time.
sorry for depressing everyone btw, but i feel its a valid point as sometimes we forget how fragile these little creatures are...

on a happier note though, if he does want a puppy, you may be able to put his name down with the local shelters for them to contact you when they have a suitable puppy (i know thats thew way it can work over here anyway!)

one litter isn't really worth it, and it could completely alter Your babys personality...
explain that to your grandfather and i'm sure he'd understand.

all the best!
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