Puppies dying in the womb

[carmen in nj]

The Vet ran some tests and gave her the go ahead at the next heat, she also had a progesterone test done when the time came just to be sure.. oh and she also hire another stud, we don't know if that had something to do but another breeder had suggested that and she did.

[BellaBlue82]

Originally Posted by carmen in nj

yes, that happend to my friend last year, her havanesse showed 4 pups in ultra sound and a few weeks before she was due, she started getting smaller and loss aobut 6 onz, she ran to the vet and they did anothe ultra sound and x rays and they showed nothing, she had reabsorbed the puppies, she bred her in her next season and I helped her delivered her first litter last november, my son asked the vet at his work and she said that it happens sometimes and they don't have a good reason or explanation for it.. the only thing she said was that it also seems to happen before calcification occurs.
hugs,

I'm a new pet owner (not even yet, I get her in 2 weeks lol) so excuse my limited knowledge... but how in the hell does this happen?? This is the strangest thing I have evern heard of! How does a dog just absorb her puppies back??

[carmen in nj]

Originally Posted by BellaBlue82

I'm a new pet owner (not even yet, I get her in 2 weeks lol) so excuse my limited knowledge... but how in the hell does this happen?? This is the strangest thing I have evern heard of! How does a dog just absorb her puppies back??

Here are some of the most common reasons for canine reabsortion, and some times the vets can't find anything out of the ordinary..

A common cause of a bitch reabsorbing is Canine herpes virus. This virus is now known to be responsible for all sorts of fertility problems - no puppies, reabsorbing litters, small litters and fading puppies.
There is a vaccine available - one injection is given to the bitch before she is mated and a second is given before she whelps.

Canine brucellosis: A disease caused by bacteria that can affect pregnant dogs. This bacterium does not have many visible symptoms in a dog, but can cause a miscarriage in dogs that are 35 weeks along, embryonic death or the birth of stillborn puppies.
Canine herpes-virus infection: Can cause a pregnant dog to miscarry her puppies. In a non-pregnant dog, this viral infection can be a minor illness. If contracted during the first or last 3 weeks of gestation, a dog may have a spontaneous abortion or lose her puppies after birth.
Toxoplasmosis: The organism may choose a dog to serve as a host. When a pregnant dog has this infection, she could have a miscarriage. If there is a dog birth, the puppies could be born with defects affecting their respiratory and gastrointestinal systems and cause neurological disorders. Pregnant dogs can avoid infection by not being around cat feces or raw meat.
Mycoplasma or ureaplasma: When a pregnant dog is kept in an overcrowded kennel, she can contract mycoplasma or ureaplasma. These organisms can cause premature birth, still birth or a spontaneous abortion that results in the reabsorbing of a fetus.
Bacterial or viral infections: During complications in pregnancy, dogs can fall ill to a number of other bacterial or viral infections. Many of the viruses and bacteria a pregnant dog is exposed to can often be introduced when the breeder vaccinates the dog. Vaccinating a pregnant dog is often not recommended because of the complications it can cause during gestation.
Low progesterone levels: When a female dog has an insufficient amount of progesterone, a hormone that helps maintain a pregnancy, her body will think it is time to give birth to her puppies. This will cause the dog to miscarry her puppies. Replacement therapy can be administered to a pregnant dog with low progesterone levels to help prevent spontaneous abortions.
Other abnormalities: Other causes of complications during a dog's gestation period could be attributed to endocrine disorders (for example, hypothyroidism), nutritional deficiencies and genetic defects

[topknot]

Here is a good read too about reabsorbtion: Ask the Doctor.. Reabsorption of Puppies

[topknot]

Originally Posted by carmen in nj

Here are some of the most common reasons for canine reabsortion, and some times the vets can't find anything out of the ordinary..

A common cause of a bitch reabsorbing is Canine herpes virus. This virus is now known to be responsible for all sorts of fertility problems - no puppies, reabsorbing litters, small litters and fading puppies.
There is a vaccine available - one injection is given to the bitch before she is mated and a second is given before she whelps.

Canine brucellosis: A disease caused by bacteria that can affect pregnant dogs. This bacterium does not have many visible symptoms in a dog, but can cause a miscarriage in dogs that are 35 weeks along, embryonic death or the birth of stillborn puppies.
Canine herpes-virus infection: Can cause a pregnant dog to miscarry her puppies. In a non-pregnant dog, this viral infection can be a minor illness. If contracted during the first or last 3 weeks of gestation, a dog may have a spontaneous abortion or lose her puppies after birth.
Toxoplasmosis: The organism may choose a dog to serve as a host. When a pregnant dog has this infection, she could have a miscarriage. If there is a dog birth, the puppies could be born with defects affecting their respiratory and gastrointestinal systems and cause neurological disorders. Pregnant dogs can avoid infection by not being around cat feces or raw meat.
Mycoplasma or ureaplasma: When a pregnant dog is kept in an overcrowded kennel, she can contract mycoplasma or ureaplasma. These organisms can cause premature birth, still birth or a spontaneous abortion that results in the reabsorbing of a fetus.
Bacterial or viral infections: During complications in pregnancy, dogs can fall ill to a number of other bacterial or viral infections. Many of the viruses and bacteria a pregnant dog is exposed to can often be introduced when the breeder vaccinates the dog. Vaccinating a pregnant dog is often not recommended because of the complications it can cause during gestation.
Low progesterone levels: When a female dog has an insufficient amount of progesterone, a hormone that helps maintain a pregnancy, her body will think it is time to give birth to her puppies. This will cause the dog to miscarry her puppies. Replacement therapy can be administered to a pregnant dog with low progesterone levels to help prevent spontaneous abortions.
Other abnormalities: Other causes of complications during a dog's gestation period could be attributed to endocrine disorders (for example, hypothyroidism), nutritional deficiencies and genetic defects

Carmen - Did you write this all on your own? Don't mean to question you, but sounds like something I came arcoss before. If you copied it, don't forget to give a link or credit to the person that wrote this. If you did write this, very good.

[carmen in nj]

Originally Posted by topknot

Carmen - Did you write this all on your own? Don't mean to question you, but sounds like something I came arcoss before. If you copied it, don't forget to give a link or credit to the person that wrote this. If you did write this, very good.

no I did not i just copied it to my library, but here's the link..
I always keep good information handy for reference..
Abnormalities in Gestation for Dogs

I saved it from when my friends dog reabsorbed her litter of 4.
hugs,

[topknot]

Originally Posted by carmen in nj

no I did not i just copied it to my library, but here's the link..
I always keep good information handy for reference..
Abnormalities in Gestation for Dogs

I saved it from when my friends dog reabsorbed her litter of 4.
hugs,

Thanks! It is a good read.

Reason for absorbtion can be many and is nature's way to compensate. In the wild if there is harsh weather ahead or not enough food, reabsobtion can happen then too.

[bjh]

I have read that fetal reabsorption may occur more often than we realize.

Here is another interesting article that explains some of the causes:

http://horta.0catch.com/congressospcv/16.pdf

[WalnutHill]

There is also a strain of parvo that can cause cardiac arrest in unborn puppies. I think there is something about it on a thread here from over the summer.

[BellaBlue82]

Originally Posted by carmen in nj

Here are some of the most common reasons for canine reabsortion, and some times the vets can't find anything out of the ordinary..

A common cause of a bitch reabsorbing is Canine herpes virus. This virus is now known to be responsible for all sorts of fertility problems - no puppies, reabsorbing litters, small litters and fading puppies.
There is a vaccine available - one injection is given to the bitch before she is mated and a second is given before she whelps.

Canine brucellosis: A disease caused by bacteria that can affect pregnant dogs. This bacterium does not have many visible symptoms in a dog, but can cause a miscarriage in dogs that are 35 weeks along, embryonic death or the birth of stillborn puppies.
Canine herpes-virus infection: Can cause a pregnant dog to miscarry her puppies. In a non-pregnant dog, this viral infection can be a minor illness. If contracted during the first or last 3 weeks of gestation, a dog may have a spontaneous abortion or lose her puppies after birth.
Toxoplasmosis: The organism may choose a dog to serve as a host. When a pregnant dog has this infection, she could have a miscarriage. If there is a dog birth, the puppies could be born with defects affecting their respiratory and gastrointestinal systems and cause neurological disorders. Pregnant dogs can avoid infection by not being around cat feces or raw meat.
Mycoplasma or ureaplasma: When a pregnant dog is kept in an overcrowded kennel, she can contract mycoplasma or ureaplasma. These organisms can cause premature birth, still birth or a spontaneous abortion that results in the reabsorbing of a fetus.
Bacterial or viral infections: During complications in pregnancy, dogs can fall ill to a number of other bacterial or viral infections. Many of the viruses and bacteria a pregnant dog is exposed to can often be introduced when the breeder vaccinates the dog. Vaccinating a pregnant dog is often not recommended because of the complications it can cause during gestation.
Low progesterone levels: When a female dog has an insufficient amount of progesterone, a hormone that helps maintain a pregnancy, her body will think it is time to give birth to her puppies. This will cause the dog to miscarry her puppies. Replacement therapy can be administered to a pregnant dog with low progesterone levels to help prevent spontaneous abortions.
Other abnormalities: Other causes of complications during a dog's gestation period could be attributed to endocrine disorders (for example, hypothyroidism), nutritional deficiencies and genetic defects

Thanks so much for the info, very informative! And to Topknot as well!!

[JeanieK]

So from what I've been reading, there is a chance that there are still some puppies.

I'm going to monitor her weight and take her in for an ultrasound on Monday.

[carmen in nj]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

So from what I've been reading, there is a chance that there are still some puppies.

I'm going to monitor her weight and take her in for an ultrasound on Monday.

yes, is always that posibility that is why my friend had the sonogram done when she went back, and then she still wanted x rays at what it would have been her 58th day and again she showed nothing.. but better safe than sorry.. after we were sure that she had no pups we did give her half a cup of rabsberry leaf tea to help her go back and clean her out just in case but she had no discharge at all.. then she went on to get her normal heat 7 months later..

[fannie]

Hey Jeanie, if she did absorb her puppies, you want to make sure you have her examined and watch closely for pyometra. I hope she hasn't though.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by fannie

Hey Jeanie, if she did absorb her puppies, you want to make sure you have her examined and watch closely for pyometra. I hope she hasn't though.

thanks, I'll ask the vet about that.