Selecting a Breeder

[Mardelin]

Spay and nueter these dogs. If you have homes for them great, but don't continue to add to those mixed breeds that are already in shelters. You say you don't want to be a backyard breeder, but in essence you already have, you've done it once and plan to do it again with offspring.

I have inherited a maltipoo......she's spayed and my grandsons pet. Cute as a button and was adorable as a pup, but then they all are. However, does have temperament problems and we've worked hard on them. You are taking a chance by breeding indiscrimenately that these pups may have inherited the best and worse of both worlds.

[Mardelin]

Question? I see this thread titled Selecting a Breeder.....I don't see anything that remotely indicates that.

[fannie]

Originally Posted by Emma Lee

Ok I just want to thank you for 100% attacking me. I thought that people came in here to ask questions and learn. I am very receptive to other peoples views and yes you make some very good points and definitely gave me some things to think about, but I can't help but feel as though you have slapped me in the face and screamed stupid.

This is a great place to learn. If you want to learn, then please... listen. Listen to what they are telling you and learn from it. Nobody here will tell you it's ok to breed mixed breeds on purpose. FlDebra is exactly correct. She wasn't being mean, just being honest.

And Mardelin.... I think she was asking us to help her choose which one of her puppies she should keep as a breeder.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by fannie

This is a great place to learn. If you want to learn, then please... listen. Listen to what they are telling you and learn from it. Nobody here will tell you it's ok to breed mixed breeds on purpose. FlDebra is exactly correct. She wasn't being mean, just being honest.

And Mardelin.... I think she was asking us to help her choose which one of her puppies she should keep as a breeder.

Thanks, someone else helped me figure it out. The title was a bit confusing. At any rate....just like me to think on another plane. Pups are much too young to even think about picking a breeding speciman, let alone them being a mixed breed.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Emma Lee

This was a planned pregnancy. I don't necessarily want to better the breed, but I want to better the line (if that makes any sense).

No, sorry, but it does not make sense.. You cannot "better the breed"--the dogs are mutts, not recognized breeds, so there is nothing to "better." (Same can be said for the "line.")

To answer your question regarding which one should be kept for breeding--my answer would be NONE of them should be kept for the purposes of breeding them, for all the reasons that have already been mentioned.

Originally Posted by Emma Lee

I thought that people came in here to ask questions and learn.

Yes, people do come on here to ask questions and learn. And generally, people who have done their research and who are breeding with the purpose of adhering to the breed standard, they recieve a lot of support and helpful advice. However, when you are breeding without any regard for the breed (or in this case breedS) at all, then you generally will not have many people willing to support your cause and offer advice that would enable you to progress down the path that you are on.

I think it's safe to say that the majority of the breeders here who offer advice and help have spent years dedicating themselves to their dogs and to preservation of the Yorkie. Your practice goes against that, so it shouldn't be surprising that you are not receiving their praise, support and encouragement.

[Emma Lee]

I appreciate all the feedback and I will agree that I have not thought of all of the points brought up here. Sorry my title was misleading, sorry if I offended anyone and I will take a step back and take more time to educate myself before I get into this.

[Nancy1999]

Here's a couple of links that many of us have found useful in deciding whether we should breed, I'm sure many of us have considered the option, and not everyone has visited the pound and understands that literally millions of dogs are put to sleep each year because no one wants them. These links give reasons why you should breed as well as why it may not be a good idea for you. I urge you to read them, and you since they aren't directed specifically at you, you won't feel like feel the need to be defensive.

Breeding Your Dog

Dog Owner's Guide: Ten reasons to breed your dog

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Emma Lee

I appreciate all the feedback and I will agree that I have not thought of all of the points brought up here. Sorry my title was misleading, sorry if I offended anyone and I will take a step back and take more time to educate myself before I get into this.

Just one more thing to think about. Reputable breeders have had oops breedings (mixed). However, the way they handle the placement of the offspring is spay/nuetering them and giving them away, not ever thinking of selling them.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Emma Lee

I appreciate all the feedback and I will agree that I have not thought of all of the points brought up here. Sorry my title was misleading, sorry if I offended anyone and I will take a step back and take more time to educate myself before I get into this.

That is great to hear--it's not always easy to admit that you may have gotten in a bit over your head and not thought things through as in depth as you had thought you had. Both you and your dogs will benefit from taking the time to more throughly research and plan. I am so glad that you were able to actually consider the advice being given and swallowing your pride to see how it applies to your own situation.

Very few actually do that it seems.

If you really are passionate about breeding, I would suggest that you take your time and approach it responsibly. Try to find an experienced breeder that will help you out while you learn.

Good luck.

[Emma Lee]

I will absolutely consider the advice that has been given and appreciate it. I purchased my yorkie poo from a women who breeds yorkies, it was not something that she did on purpose. She bought a yorkie who was pregnant and did not know it. She has supported breeding my yorkie poo, though she does not breed them herself. When I talked about bettering the line what I was trying to say was eventually the poodle would be a very small contribution to this particular line. I guess I did not stop to think about all of the other things that go along with it. I will not breed these puppies and will do more research and when I feel confident in what I have learned I will then make a more informed decision as to whether or not breeding is something I wish to pursue. All but one of my puppies is spoken for and I will strongly suggest that the dogs be spayed/neutered. Emma had four puppies 3 girls, 1 boy, 2 girls and the boy are going and I will now be looking for a home for the 3rd girl. Maybe my question and my first breeding experience started out as a dumb one, but I have learned something from it.

[harleyyorkie]

They are very cute puppies, but as an owner of five Purebreed Yorkies, I must say SHAME ON YOU Continuing to breed for an outcome of mixed breed dogs makes no sense. You are in no way bettering the breed or line but you are adding to the overpopulation of mixed breeds, many of which end up at the pound. It's nice that you want to provide a puppy for disabled people. May I suggest that you get them a gift certificate to the local humane society so that they can give a puppy that is already here, a good loving home. A $100.00 girt certificate is alot cheaper than the $250.00 you say you will sell them for to recoup your costs.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Emma Lee

I will absolutely consider the advice that has been given and appreciate it. I purchased my yorkie poo from a women who breeds yorkies, it was not something that she did on purpose. She bought a yorkie who was pregnant and did not know it. She has supported breeding my yorkie poo, though she does not breed them herself. When I talked about bettering the line what I was trying to say was eventually the poodle would be a very small contribution to this particular line. I guess I did not stop to think about all of the other things that go along with it. I will not breed these puppies and will do more research and when I feel confident in what I have learned I will then make a more informed decision as to whether or not breeding is something I wish to pursue. All but one of my puppies is spoken for and I will strongly suggest that the dogs be spayed/neutered. Emma had four puppies 3 girls, 1 boy, 2 girls and the boy are going and I will now be looking for a home for the 3rd girl. Maybe my question and my first breeding experience started out as a dumb one, but I have learned something from it.

I understood what you meant by improving your line, but from what I understand, even though you would continue to breed with nothing but yorkies in the future, the dogs aren't really ¼ something and ¾ something else. Genes are passed and dominant genes will show a trait even though the dog only gets that gene from one parent. For example, poodles have really curly hair, and Yorkies have straight hair, the curly hair gene is dominant, so every dog will inherent the curly hair, it may not be as curly as the Poodle's, but it will still not look like a Yorkies hair should look. If you breed these dogs to a straight hair yorkie, the offspring could inherited the curly hair gene again, and being dominant, it would show on the dog, so you might have to breed 10 litters to ever get rid of the kinky hair, and there are so many other traits to consider as well. At one time there just wasn't enough dogs to go around and mixing and trying to develop a new breed was fairly common, but this isn't really recommended anymore. It's best to start with the best examples of the breed you can find, and improve on that.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by harleyyorkie

They are very cute puppies, but as an owner of five Purebreed Yorkies, I must say SHAME ON YOU Continuing to breed for an outcome of mixed breed dogs makes no sense. You are in no way bettering the breed or line but you are adding to the overpopulation of mixed breeds, many of which end up at the pound. It's nice that you want to provide a puppy for disabled people. May I suggest that you get them a gift certificate to the local humane society so that they can give a puppy that is already here, a good loving home. A $100.00 girt certificate is alot cheaper than the $250.00 you say you will sell them for to recoup your costs.

I've just got to say that I personally hate it when someone uses the term "shame on you". If you read the OP's replies, she has been very receptive to considering different opinions on the subject. I remember at one time, I didn't think mixing was such a bad idea, and in fact, all my pound puppies were mixed, and I thought they were adorable. However, when I learned more about the subject, I understood that mixing was a bad idea.

[Princessangela3]

Originally Posted by Emma Lee

I will absolutely consider the advice that has been given and appreciate it. I purchased my yorkie poo from a women who breeds yorkies, it was not something that she did on purpose. She bought a yorkie who was pregnant and did not know it. She has supported breeding my yorkie poo, though she does not breed them herself. When I talked about bettering the line what I was trying to say was eventually the poodle would be a very small contribution to this particular line. I guess I did not stop to think about all of the other things that go along with it. I will not breed these puppies and will do more research and when I feel confident in what I have learned I will then make a more informed decision as to whether or not breeding is something I wish to pursue. All but one of my puppies is spoken for and I will strongly suggest that the dogs be spayed/neutered. Emma had four puppies 3 girls, 1 boy, 2 girls and the boy are going and I will now be looking for a home for the 3rd girl. Maybe my question and my first breeding experience started out as a dumb one, but I have learned something from it.

I first came to YT looking to become a breeder myself. I had ideas in my head on how it all worked and how easy and great it would be because I just knew the momma would just do it all. BOY WAS I WRONG!!!!! I would like to say I had an oops breeding but I knew my yorkie was in heat and I knew what would happen if she was around a male....so I take responsibility and say I uneducatedly (if it is even a word) allowed my yorkie to be near a male and they did tie once. I have since then learned a WEALTH of information and had a litter of 5 pups since then who are now 8 weeks old today. I have been blessed with a text book easy pregnancy, easy whelping, healthy puppies who are wonderfully beautifully text book yorkie puppies. My most difficult situations have been not knowing what the "bubble" was when whelping I had no clue (but thanks to Mardelin I am now educated) and I had an episode of puppy constipation (I thought it was a seizure) easily resolved with a $77 enema and prune juice. I CANNOT IMAGINE any type of truly tragic situation with my puppies or losing my momma.
I have spent the past 4 + months completely stressed out, financially draining, and extremely tired trying to do everything in my power to make sure I am doing right by Bella Mia and our puppies. Dont get me wrong I dont mind it one bit but it wasnt the easy simple momma does everything way I pictured in my head. That all being said I have decided I still have much to learn about breeding and I would still like to someday become a breeder. Until that time comes I will continue to learn everything I can about showing yorkies and finding a GREAT mentor and breeding correctly.
Do lots and lots of research and then I will do some more that is my attitude....when I am better educated I will have the knowledge to go along with my intrest.
Please do not feel stupid just learn from the wonderful information you have been given and do right by what you have learned.....the folks here give better, more detailed information than most any other source about yorkies. Please take the VALUEABLE educational part of what the ladies are telling you and go from there...GOOD LUCK!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Princessangela3

text book yorkie puppies. My most difficult situations have been not knowing what the "bubble" was when whelping I had no clue (but thanks to Mardelin I am now educated)

Angela,

Yesterday I had a litter and not one presented a bubble, they just popped out......first time I ran across that one. Now what I did like about this group is that they all appeared head first......