Does Labor start all of the sudden?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by tammys

On litter by no means makes me an expert, but my girl did the same thing. If I had put her in a quiet place by herself, she would have been totally stressed out. She literally went into labor on my lap, and had the pups on the sofa in the living room! I didn't have to worry about watching her, b/c she didn't let me out of HER sight! LOL

Very understandable with your girl....she's been a pet all her life, and becoming a mommy was purely accidental.

[tammys]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Very understandable with your girl....she's been a pet all her life, and becoming a mommy was purely accidental.

Yes, and she is very attached to me.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by tammys

Yes, and she is very attached to me.

My girls are pets too, but they are Championed and don't sleep with me but, in crates, in a puppy room, right out side my bedroom. So, being into mom's room, they know that for 12 or more they will get extra pampering. They love being in there. They have the TV to watch all day, and they're every need seen to without them asking/barking for it.

[manolos mom]

Such a good mom...

[tammys]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

My girls are pets too, but they are Championed and don't sleep with me but, in crates, in a puppy room, right out side my bedroom. So, being into mom's room, they know that for 12 or more they will get extra pampering. They love being in there. They have the TV to watch all day, and they're every need seen to without them asking/barking for it.

I have a question, and I tried to figure out how to ask it without it sounding rude, but couldn't figure out a way, so please don't take this wrong, but I'm curious about something:

I have only ever had animals for pets, so I am wondering what being championed has to do with sleeping in a crate, and not on a doggy bed, (like our dogs), or some place uncrated.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by tammys

I have a question, and I tried to figure out how to ask it without it sounding rude, but couldn't figure out a way, so please don't take this wrong, but I'm curious about something:

I have only ever had animals for pets, so I am wondering what being championed has to do with sleeping in a crate, and not on a doggy bed, (like our dogs), or some place uncrated.

There's special precautions that you take when you're growing coat and showing a dog, you protect everything about them. Show dogs are raised a bit different. My dogs only sleep on Satin, aren't allowed on furniture, or carpet, and putting them in a crate (whether a pet or show dog is for their benefit,) to keep them safe and from wandering around the house during the night and getting hurt. And I wouldn't want them sleeping in my bed with the possibility of them jumping from the bed and breaking a leg or me rolling over and hurting them.

There are pet owners that crate their dogs at night, the safety of the dog. As well as crating them when no one is around to watch them. Now the crates my yorkies are in are huge, and of wire, they have a satin doggy bed, water bottle and feeding dish. It's their bedroom. Dogs are den animals and their crate is their den.

Don't get me wrong my dogs are pets too. They are allowed to be free and be a dog. And at one time prior to showing, I was a pet owner and felt crating a pet was cruel. Not so anymore.

[Mardelin]

Oops! and then there is the other thing, I am a breeder/exhibitor and have females and males....so, I wouldn't want any "accidental, unplanned breeding taking place" when I wasn't looking. My girls come into heat, and they are monitored, daily, they are immediately seperated into a seperate area of the house. Try keeping a stud away from a girl that's in heat during the night...so, you crate them.

[tammys]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

There's special precautions that you take when you're growing coat and showing a dog, you protect everything about them. Show dogs are raised a bit different. My dogs only sleep on Satin, aren't allowed on furniture, or carpet, and putting them in a crate (whether a pet or show dog is for their benefit,) to keep them safe and from wandering around the house during the night and getting hurt. And I wouldn't want them sleeping in my bed with the possibility of them jumping from the bed and breaking a leg or me rolling over and hurting them.

There are pet owners that crate their dogs at night, the safety of the dog. As well as crating them when no one is around to watch them. Now the crates my yorkies are in are huge, and of wire, they have a satin doggy bed, water bottle and feeding dish. It's their bedroom. Dogs are den animals and their crate is their den.

Don't get me wrong my dogs are pets too. They are allowed to be free and be a dog. And at one time prior to showing, I was a pet owner and felt crating a pet was cruel. Not so anymore.

Aha, the satin makes sense, and sounds comfy!

I totally understand about the bed thing. I can just picture a dog hearing a noise, and jumping of the bed to go check it out...not good! Although I know Cassie would love to cuddle up with me, she is safer on the floor.

I have a neighbor who has a 6 lb. Yorkie. He puts the Yorkie on top of their truck when he is doing yardwork, so the dog won't chase the rake when he's raking. The dog actually jumped off the top of the truck onto the grass! I just about had a heart attack! Some people just don't realize how fragile their little legs and body are. All you have to do so bathe them once and feel those tiny leg bones!

I do not think crating is cruel at all. It is often necessary for the safety of the dog, and the life of our floors and carpeting!


We used to have a springer spaniel, who would just hang out in his crate during the day. It was his den, as you said.

Cassie has to be in the same room with me all the time, and will follow me everywhere - even into the bathroom! She would be heartbroken if I put her in another room at night.

But, she has known this all her life. I'm sure if she had not been brought up that way from the beginning, it would be another story. When we are leaving in the car, she will sneak out ahead of us, jump in the car, and hide under the back seat, so she can go with us.


We crate our dogs until they are completely potty trained, and for their first two years or so when we are not here to watch them - for the same reasons you mentioned.

I think if I had a tiny Yorkie I would be more prone to crating them when we were gone even when they were older, but Cassie is a very large Yorkie at almost 10 lbs. All she does is sleep when we're gone! At least I think that's what she does, b/c she's always in the same position when we get home.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by tammys

Aha, the satin makes sense, and sounds comfy!

I totally understand about the bed thing. I can just picture a dog hearing a noise, and jumping of the bed to go check it out...not good! Although I know Cassie would love to cuddle up with me, she is safer on the floor.

I have a neighbor who has a 6 lb. Yorkie. He puts the Yorkie on top of their truck when he is doing yardwork, so the dog won't chase the rake when he's raking. The dog actually jumped off the top of the truck onto the grass! I just about had a heart attack! Some people just don't realize how fragile their little legs and body are. All you have to do so bathe them once and feel those tiny leg bones!

I do not think crating is cruel at all. It is often necessary for the safety of the dog, and the life of our floors and carpeting!


We used to have a springer spaniel, who would just hang out in his crate during the day. It was his den, as you said.

Cassie has to be in the same room with me all the time, and will follow me everywhere - even into the bathroom! She would be heartbroken if I put her in another room at night.

But, she has known this all her life. I'm sure if she had not been brought up that way from the beginning, it would be another story. When we are leaving in the car, she will sneak out ahead of us, jump in the car, and hide under the back seat, so she can go with us.


We crate our dogs until they are completely potty trained, and for their first two years or so when we are not here to watch them - for the same reasons you mentioned.

I think if I had a tiny Yorkie I would be more prone to crating them when we were gone even when they were older, but Cassie is a very large Yorkie at almost 10 lbs. All she does is sleep when we're gone! At least I think that's what she does, b/c she's always in the same position when we get home.

You're Cassie was raised to be your special girl, and no way did you think of her becoming a mother, an unfortunate accident, that turned out ok.

But, my girls are crate raised and trained and use to traveling with me and staying in hotels in their crates while we go out to dinner. Once championed, and their time for breeding them has come, there is no transitioning needed. They're use to sleeping in a crate in another room. All I have to tell my crew is nite, nite and they know where to go. So, when they go in my room into the puppy play pen, it's a treat for them.

[tammys]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

You're Cassie was raised to be your special girl, and no way did you think of her becoming a mother, an unfortunate accident, that turned out ok.

But, my girls are crate raised and trained and use to traveling with me and staying in hotels in their crates while we go out to dinner. Once championed, and their time for breeding them has come, there is no transitioning needed. They're use to sleeping in a crate in another room. All I have to tell my crew is nite, nite and they know where to go. So, when they go in my room into the puppy play pen, it's a treat for them.

I don't see it as an unfortunate accident. It could have been, but thankfully, it all turned out fine. We are thrilled with our babies, and are very grateful to have them.

I am not judging the way you raise your dogs; it sounds like they are happy and well-adjusted, and it works for all of you and your situations.
I can't imagine you traveling, and letting them run around the hotel room, and them not wanting to go in the crate b/c see it as a punishment. They see it as their safe place.


We used to say something like that to our Springer. We would say, Where do you go?, and he would just walk into his crate.



Each way works for each family.

Man, how did this get into a talk about how to raise our dogs? LOL

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by tammys

I don't see it as an unfortunate accident. It could have been, but thankfully, it all turned out fine. We are thrilled with our babies, and are very grateful to have them.

I am not judging the way you raise your dogs; it sounds like they are happy and well-adjusted, and it works for all of you and your situations.
I can't imagine you traveling, and letting them run around the hotel room, and them not wanting to go in the crate b/c see it as a punishment. They see it as their safe place.


We used to say something like that to our Springer. We would say, Where do you go?, and he would just walk into his crate.



Each way works for each family.

Man, how did this get into a talk about how to raise our dogs? LOL

If I had one pet yorkie it would probably be different. But, raising show dogs is much different. You're raising them to Champion and improve the breed when you breed them. It's just a different way of life, my whole life revolves around my dogs. They love traveling, even after they've been championed, and I'm showing another, they hear me loading up the equipment and they get excited, thinking they're gonna go. I do take turns taking one of them, especially if I'm only showing one dog.

[tammys]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

If I had one pet yorkie it would probably be different. But, raising show dogs is much different. You're raising them to Champion and improve the breed when you breed them. It's just a different way of life, my whole life revolves around my dogs. They love traveling, even after they've been championed, and I'm showing another, they hear me loading up the equipment and they get excited, thinking they're gonna go. I do take turns taking one of them, especially if I'm only showing one dog.

We have lots of dogs, and smaller animals, but we also have 5 homeschooled kids, so it's a totally different situation.


That's so cool that they love it. It sounds like lots of fun and excitement!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by tammys

We have lots of dogs, and smaller animals, but we also have 5 homeschooled kids, so it's a totally different situation.


That's so cool that they love it. It sounds like lots of fun and excitement!

My kids are all grown with children of their own. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. Working and raising a family, who had time for anything else. At that time my life revolved around my kids.

[tammys]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

My kids are all grown with children of their own. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. Working and raising a family, who had time for anything else. At that time my life revolved around my kids.

Yep, I understand.

[Princessangela3]

I have another question...I just read an article about Corgi's saying that when the milk comes in and can be expressed that whelping can be expected within 24 hours? Is this true of Yorkies?