The whole "parti" thing?

[4lilyorks]

Originally Posted by Pruett

This is another reason there are so many problems, language barriers.
Above is what I said to Stacey, in NO WAY does it say PROVE to me that Jeff emailed you.

I simply asked when he sent it, because we have been trying to call him and thought he might have been out of town or something.

I guess you got that I was calling Gunter a liar out of my post and I got that you wanted me to prove the email out of yours. Guess that happens when you try to interpet others thoughts.

Don't think he is out of town, just hard to get in touch with.

[4lilyorks]

Gayle, did Mr. and Mrs. Biewer breed to other breeds other then the yorkie to create the Biewer?

[Pruett]

Originally Posted by Snow Yorkies

According to the pedigree history they are from a Yorkshire.

Now if I can get an answer to my question, then I would be able to give a better answer.

Two of the clubs posted their emails from Mars .. we are still waiting for a letter or email that validates that BTCA that there is more than one breed in the biewers. We have seen this written time after time, but no documentation that Mars is standing behind the BTCA's teaching. We have seen a graph...

Isn't this classic? I have asked you for the last couple of years who the geneticist' and Vets were that you claimed to be working with and you never answered.

Now, what did Homer's and Mauvie's tests show? You may already have your answer. Besides, we invited everyone to get involved in the testing with mars and NO ONE wanted any part of it, yet now you feel you are owed the results???

[AprilLove]

Originally Posted by Pruett

There really isn't that much difference in the standards and the only ones having fits over it are the BBCA, and BYTNC/BAPP??. With the help of Mrs. Biewer and a standard committee for the BTCA, we wrote a standard that is uniquely the Biewer Terrier, not a Yorkshire Terrier. We really don't care what standard they use, we just don't like them misleading the public. All we ask is that they tell the truth when educating the public and to state their opinions as such.

The BBCA believes in breeding Biewer to Biewer since it's inception, yet bought a bunch of dogs from Splitters. They feel the Biewer is a Yorkshire Terrier with 3 colors, so no different than what the Parti Yorkie breeders claim.

The BYTNC/BAPP??? breeds Yokies and Biewers which is no more than breeding designer dogs. Sue Williams posted the Mars test results of one of her mix breed dogs, which proved that they are breeding all the Biewer out of the dogs and now have Parti colored Yorkies.

Both of these clubs have changed the name of the dog, yet jump down our throat and say that we changed the name. What makes their change better than ours? One big difference is, Mrs. Biewer approves of our change.

Pruett,

I'm very curious why you say this now, yet in another post, after being question on how many splitter litters you bred, this was your response and I quote "
I bred about 6 litters, none of which are in a breeding program, to prove a point."


what I am really curious about is where are all the splitters (puppies, dogs, living beings) that you bred, just to prove a point? and what point exactly was proven by breeding all these undesireable designer litters?

[sierrapups]

Two of the clubs posted their emails from Mars .. we are still waiting for a letter or email that validates that BTCA that there is more than one breed in the biewers. We have seen this written time after time, but no documentation that Mars is standing behind the BTCA's teaching. We have seen a graph...

Sue, I think that it is ironic that you are asking for answers and proof yet when I asked for answers to questions about my dog sired by your Homer you chose not to answer. That has been 3 years ago and I still haven't gotten the answers to my questions. Thank goodness for the Mars tests because at least now I know more about my dog and yours too.

With a little patience the results will be made public for all to see. There are still other geneticists working with us on separate results. We have found that it is better to keep some things under our hats as it takes too much effort to try and dissuade the misinformation and misunderstandings of those that don't understand the science behind the tests.

[yorkiekist]

Please ladies, calm down!! We dont want any of you to get suspended! You are all so knowledgable about this new breed and to lose any of you it would be a big loss to Yt and those of us who would like to learn about the Biewer.
It seems sad to me that the separate clubs cant get along. Isnt it the goal of all the clubs to produce a healthy beautiful new breed. How will anyone be able to buy a Biewer or show a Biewer if all the clubs cant agree? What will eventually become of this new breed? Some will be shown AKC eventually and some wont qualify because of the club they are registered with? Kind of confusing for a newbie!

(I know, I get plenty riled up about the parti issue)

[AprilLove]

Originally Posted by sierrapups

Sue, I think that it is ironic that you are asking for answers and proof yet when I asked for answers to questions about my dog sired by your Homer you chose not to answer. That has been 3 years ago and I still haven't gotten the answers to my questions. Thank goodness for the Mars tests because at least now I know more about my dog and yours too.

With a little patience the results will be made public for all to see. There are still other geneticists working with us on separate results. We have found that it is better to keep some things under our hats as it takes too much effort to try and dissuade the misinformation and misunderstandings of those that don't understand the science behind the tests.

[sierrapups]

Originally Posted by AprilLove

Very counter productive

[mypreciouspups]

This is all pretty interesting.. so many views on one breed..anne

[Pruett]

Originally Posted by AprilLove

Pruett,

I'm very curious why you say this now, yet in another post, after being question on how many splitter litters you bred, this was your response and I quote "
I bred about 6 litters, none of which are in a breeding program, to prove a point."


what I am really curious about is where are all the splitters (puppies, dogs, living beings) that you bred, just to prove a point? and what point exactly was proven by breeding all these undesireable designer litters?

These questions have already been answered and if I thought you were interested in learning about breeding, and what the Biewer is instead of trying to start a fight, I wouldn't mind answering your questions again.

[AprilLove]

Originally Posted by sierrapups

Very counter productive

Please refer to the Mars website, look into who Mars is, what they do, and how they generate revenue

[AprilLove]

Originally Posted by Pruett

These questions have already been answered and if I thought you were interested in learning about breeding, and what the Biewer is instead of trying to start a fight, I wouldn't mind answering your questions again.

I looked through all the threads and could not find an answer to my question. That is why I asked it. I am genuinely interested in the welfare of the dogs that were produced to prove a point only. Not interested in starting any "fights".
We are all adults here I would hope.
And I do know what the Biewer is

[sierrapups]

Originally Posted by AprilLove

Please refer to the Mars website, look into who Mars is, what they do, and how they generate revenue

As we have stated numerous times, the Mars tests that we are referring to have nothing to do with the general public. These are in depth studies with certified scientists.
If the Mars people were not reliable then the company would not be as healthy and profitable as it is and a leader in the world of pet health amongst other endeavors.

[bjh]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Please ladies, calm down!! We dont want any of you to get suspended! You are all so knowledgable about this new breed and to lose any of you it would be a big loss to Yt and those of us who would like to learn about the Biewer.
It seems sad to me that the separate clubs cant get along. Isnt it the goal of all the clubs to produce a healthy beautiful new breed. How will anyone be able to buy a Biewer or show a Biewer if all the clubs cant agree? What will eventually become of this new breed? Some will be shown AKC eventually and some wont qualify because of the club they are registered with? Kind of confusing for a newbie!

(I know, I get plenty riled up about the parti issue)

[sierrapups]

Originally Posted by AprilLove

I looked through all the threads and could not find an answer to my question. That is why I asked it. I am genuinely interested in the welfare of the dogs that were produced to prove a point only. Not interested in starting any "fights".
We are all adults here I would hope.
And I do know what the Biewer is

What is the point you are trying prove? I thought that attacks on forum breeders were frowned upon. Why do you want to know the homes that these pets went to? Are you planning on contacting the owners? Just curious.