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DanielleAllen · 03-10-2009, 09:33 AM

I am sooo sorry that this happened to you. I would really check into the Care Credit thing. My local vet has it. I got it when my yorkie broke his elbow. That was $1500 to get that fixed, plus the after care. I just pay it each month. I love having it in case of an emergency. It puts my mind a easy a little bit!

ARCHIE · 03-10-2009, 09:38 AM

Donna, I am so sorry. Please call me if I can help in anyway.
PM me for my # if you need too.
Prayer's coming for little Joey.
I also thought she was a good breeder from YT.
I can help with Sadie if you need me.

TLC · 03-10-2009, 09:46 AM

I am here for you too

I know you are having a tough time with feeding both of them separetly. Maybe homecooking would work - let me know how you feel about homecooking for them

Sugar's Mom · 03-10-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ARCHIE

Donna, I am so sorry. Please call me if I can help in anyway.
PM me for my # if you need too.
Prayer's coming for little Joey.
I also thought she was a good breeder from YT.
I can help with Sadie if you need me.

just goes to show you how we all can be so trusting of people just because they are on YT.

ARCHIE · 03-10-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

just goes to show you how we all can be so trusting of people just because they are on YT.

You are absolutely right!

Nancy1999 · 03-10-2009, 10:30 AM

Am I missing something, who is the breeder?

Ladymom · 03-10-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Am I missing something, who is the breeder?

I don't think the OP wants to name her just yet. I guess she is still hoping to work something out towards the vet bills with her.

AF Diva · 03-10-2009, 04:53 PM

Well in the meantime, they could be negotiating a sale to someone else on here...

peanut · 03-10-2009, 06:50 PM

I think you should call the breeder and let her know whats going on with the puppy, she needs to know so she will not be breeding the pair again. I don't know how she will handle it, I would give you the money back for the pup and let you keep it, and help as much as I could. I bought a yorkie years ago before YT was even online, so I didn't know any better, and yes she was a byb, lucky I had the best care for Liver shunt, Dr. Tobias, it cost me around 4000 after all was said and done, about 6 years ago, but he didn't make it, it was worse than we thought, I contacted the breeder and she was like what do you think I should do, needless to say I will not repeat what I told her, I found out after the fact 3 more had Liver shunt from her lines, bottom line she didn't care, she is still breeding and with a 1 year guarantee, which is very sad. I hope you get the breeder to help you out.

drabinowitz43 · 03-10-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by peanut

I think you should call the breeder and let her know whats going on with the puppy, she needs to know so she will not be breeding the pair again. I don't know how she will handle it, I would give you the money back for the pup and let you keep it, and help as much as I could. I bought a yorkie years ago before YT was even online, so I didn't know any better, and yes she was a byb, lucky I had the best care for Liver shunt, Dr. Tobias, it cost me around 4000 after all was said and done, about 6 years ago, but he didn't make it, it was worse than we thought, I contacted the breeder and she was like what do you think I should do, needless to say I will not repeat what I told her, I found out after the fact 3 more had Liver shunt from her lines, bottom line she didn't care, she is still breeding and with a 1 year guarantee, which is very sad. I hope you get the breeder to help you out.

I am so sorry you went through an ordeal like that. I hope Joey does ok, they are not using the ameroid constrictor, which I am a little worried about, but they said they don't like it. They claim to have done thousands of these surgeries, but each pup is different. I take it that breeder did not help you at all with the $4,000?

lksdolls · 03-10-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by drabinowitz43

My breeder who I do not feel ready to name, but who does post her puppies on YT, and that is how I found her, has ignored my emails that my puppy who I got in Dec. has just been diagnosed with a liver shunt and is having surgery on Wed. The estimate for the surgery is $3,500 (including neutering, an undescended testical, and four baby teeth extractions). I paid $1,000 plus shipping for the puppy. The health guarantee says I can return the dog and get a refund. I don't want to return the dog, what will she do, put him down? The surgery costs more than 3 times the price of the dog, and I think some sort of reimbursement is in order. I can't believe this has happened. I love this dog and want to provide him the surgery he needs to live, but I don't have the money. Am I being unreasonable?

I am very tired tonight and need to get some sleep but decided to check out just what is being said. I just sent you an email explaining that I have not ignored your emails, I simply haven't been on the computer for several days becuase of work deadlines. When you called me tonight I was at work and didn't get the message until after 11:30 pm and figured you would be in bed. To set the record straight, the health guarantee states "(1) Keep the pup, & receive another puppy of equal value (2) Return the pup for another pup of equal value...............No cash refunds will be given, options for replacing puppy are stated above." I might add that this little guy is the first ever of our pups to have liver shunts. And, yorkies are 1200 times more likely to be born with or develop livers shunts than any other breed. But that fact is beside the point. Just to set the record straight, I WOULD NOT put the pup down if he was returned so don't even suggest that might happen. Now I am going to respond to some other posts.

lksdolls · 03-10-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

you are definitely not being unreasonable. Unfortunately there are a lot of breeders with crappy guarantees. What you are describing is so common because the breeder knows the owner won't return the puppy. A reputable breeder would refund the purchase price of the puppy, be there for support, and stop breeding that line if dogs.

Before I offered a health guarantee, I did much research to see what others offered. What I offer is common. I did not find one that refunded the purchase price. That's not saying that some will, I just didn't find any and I checked out a ton of breeders guarantees.

lksdolls · 03-10-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by drabinowitz43

I am an attorney and I am going to research the puppy lemon law. I have mixed feelings about whether to place a phone call to the breeder, as my emails have gone ignored. I hate confrontation, that's why I'm not a litigator. I guess I owe her a phone call before I do anything else. This all just feels so wrong to me, I can't believe anyone could be so phony. She told me how much she loves her dogs, I've shared pictures, etc., etc. I got my other dog from a pet store when I didn't know any better, this time I thought I was doing the responsible thing. I hope my other Yorkie is okay. She is 1 and has never been tested, but appears to be fine, and she is much larger.

I do love my dogs and I am not phony, greedy, irresponsible or any of the other negitives being thrown at me by some others. You did place a phone call but I was at work. You might have considered placing the call last week when I didn't get back to you right away.

lksdolls · 03-10-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by drabinowitz43

If I did return the dog to her (which I'm not), do you think the breeder would put him down because he has no "resale value?" Is it all about the money?

Resale value? Put him down? I felt we had a great connection before you got Joey and even since then but reading this and your other posts........you really don't know me. I love my yorkies to pieces. If it was all about the money, do you think I would keep as long as I do to find them the right home, instead of taking the first offer just to get rid of them.

lksdolls · 03-10-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ARCHIE

Donna, I am so sorry. Please call me if I can help in anyway.
PM me for my # if you need too.
Prayer's coming for little Joey.
I also thought she was a good breeder from YT.
I can help with Sadie if you need me.

I am a good breeder. If you think this is not tearing me up inside, you are so very wrong. I have been just as devestated over the news. Joey is one of my kids. I am saddened that this thread was even started before a call was placed to me. I would gladly trade the hospital bills from my husbands heart attack of almost a year ago, which I am still paying on, for the cost of Joey's surgery.

03-10-2009, 09:46 AM	#18
TLC Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 7,247	I am here for you too I know you are having a tough time with feeding both of them separetly. Maybe homecooking would work - let me know how you feel about homecooking for them __________________ Adopt Donate Foster www.yorkie911rescue.com

03-10-2009, 10:30 AM	#21
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03-10-2009, 06:50 PM	#24
peanut Dogs Rule Cats Drool! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 7,895	I think you should call the breeder and let her know whats going on with the puppy, she needs to know so she will not be breeding the pair again. I don't know how she will handle it, I would give you the money back for the pup and let you keep it, and help as much as I could. I bought a yorkie years ago before YT was even online, so I didn't know any better, and yes she was a byb, lucky I had the best care for Liver shunt, Dr. Tobias, it cost me around 4000 after all was said and done, about 6 years ago, but he didn't make it, it was worse than we thought, I contacted the breeder and she was like what do you think I should do, needless to say I will not repeat what I told her, I found out after the fact 3 more had Liver shunt from her lines, bottom line she didn't care, she is still breeding and with a 1 year guarantee, which is very sad. I hope you get the breeder to help you out. __________________ KIM

03-10-2009, 09:33 AM	#16
DanielleAllen YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Phillips, ME, USA Posts: 273 Blog Entries: 1	I am sooo sorry that this happened to you. I would really check into the Care Credit thing. My local vet has it. I got it when my yorkie broke his elbow. That was $1500 to get that fixed, plus the after care. I just pay it each month. I love having it in case of an emergency. It puts my mind a easy a little bit!

03-10-2009, 09:38 AM	#17
ARCHIE No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 16,218	Donna, I am so sorry. Please call me if I can help in anyway. PM me for my # if you need too. Prayer's coming for little Joey. I also thought she was a good breeder from YT. I can help with Sadie if you need me.

03-10-2009, 04:53 PM	#23
AF Diva Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 134	Well in the meantime, they could be negotiating a sale to someone else on here...