This was one of my questions.

Are there any health conditions that are associated wsith the parti yorkies that are not common with the traditional yorkie


No matter how I respomnd to this, It is going to be wrong in someones eyes, and there are a few that will twist it to make it wrong.

I answered you question.

As for the deafness. since there is no greater incidence of deafness in the parti color than there is in the traditional color, I see no reason to address the issue separately.

I did not indicate how many people I spoke to about the deafness. but the answer was 100% there has been no deafness in my line of yorkies.

I'm sorry dfdif you all are dissappointed with the answerd. But NO there has been no deafness associated with parti colored yorkies.

If it ever happens, we will address the issue.

Before te parti yorkie became weel know, did all the show breeders ask the breeders that they purchfased from if there had ever been parti colored puppies born in their line.

I am quessing NO they did not because it was not a known issue.

For those of you who are married with children

Before you choose a mate and had children did you have him tested for genetic defects. Certainly potential children deserve the same caution you would use for potential puppies.

Good point! Should we have to go down the entire list of potential dog ailments and tell people that yorkies are not know to have these or should we just discuss those that they are know to have.

Yes Sue is very intelligent. :thumbup:

Funny how we can both say the same thing and one is a genius and the other an idiot. :D

Oh oh now you blew it. refer to post #407

If you want to know why we do it and why we don't just buy a Biewer, please go back and read the last 406 posts.

We're not going to go through this entired discussion all over again.

Money had nothing to do with my decision to breed the partid. and no one pitched anything to me, I did the research and contacted my breeder. I had no idea of the cost until I fell out of my chair when she told me what they cost. hat didn't matter to me, I wanted one anyway.

The Biewer breeders cannot even asgree on which breed of animal they have, some say yorkies, some say no not yorkies but do not say what breeds were used to make up the biewer, so you don't even know what you are betting. And they are not AKC registered.

Those were my reasons.

I'm not going to read the whole thread, I'm just stating my opinion in a civil manner and no need to go through the entire discussion.
If you want to breed parti's fine by me I just don't agree with it personally.
Parti's will not be accepted in the show ring (as that is where my passion lies) for some time to come. That is why our standard has changed (although it needs to be clarified the next go around). I hope we keep the Parti's out of the show ring because it deviates from the standard and is not what is called for in the Yorkshire Terrier breed. I love all yorkies whether they are parti's or not but when it comes to the show ring the standard is what I will go by PERIOD! I will always stand behind what the Yorkshire Terrier stands for and while the standard calls for "DARK STEEL BLUE" then I will adhere to the standard as close as I can set forth by the YTCA.
Of course this is all my opinion and please don't hold it against me because I see things from the opposite side of the coin.
I'm really not here to argue but I can state my opinion and how I feel as all that have posted here has :) I've actually done it in a civil manner :)

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

I understand where you stand and why, I hope you can understand why we coose the parti and not the Biewer.

Also if they change the standard to not DQ the parti then it won't be deviating from the standard.

I'm not a show person, so I really don't care if they let them in the ring. I just love the color and the dogs.

I understand your love for your dogs, but even if the DQ wasn't in place it still deviates from the standard where it calls for a "dark steel blue". No where in the standard does it call for white on the head or chest or any other place actually :) The Yorkshire Standard calls for the "dark steel blue" :)

While I understand your love for the color and the dogs I hope you understand where a show breeder can disagree with you because we do follow the standard ( at least I would hope ) and try to discourage breeding for what is not called for in the standard and breed as close to the best representation to what the breed standard calls for. I truly do understand the love for the yorkie and at times discussions can become heated so I try to handle myself in the most civilized possible way :)

Again, thanks for being civil with me in what I know has been a very heated discussion :) While I disagree with breeding outside the standard I can't change minds when one is set :)

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Yes I understad, but stadards have changed over the years, and I'm sure, not without a great deal of poopsition toward those who have pushed for it to change. and it will change again. Nothing ever changes without opposition.

I can see you are a very well settled happy person. People who are intelligent enough to know which things can be changed and which thngs cannot, and don't waste their time trying to change the things that cannot be changed, are happy people.

As for me, I know I will never change these people mind, I just love a good debate with intelligent people who keep me challenged.

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Are you inventing a new word on us Jeanie? I know, I know, just a typo, but it's just so darn FUNNY to read! :yelrotflm

I saw this ad for parti puppys today. dont know if its from a breeder here or someone any of you know, cute pups but whew $$$.

Parti colored Yorkie puppies, 2 female, 2 male - Columbus (OH) Dogs & Puppies For Sale - Kijiji Columbus (OH), Ohio

If you view posters other ads, They sell alot of different breeds. They do not state that they are AKC or CKC registered. It just says registered.
Be very careful when purchasing a parti.

LOL. Ah that fit in rather well. There has been a lot of that in this thread.

Tooooo funny. That started my day with a laugh

Yes, you have to know where they came from. If they are not AKC they are not parti, and if they do not lead bfack to the Nikko line, I personaly would not buy them. I know there are other lines, but I don't know what they are.

Posted by JeanieK 2-1...post #302 Quote..."Sue I think we need to adjust the standard to discourae the breeding of Dogs with all white heads. I like the color on both ears anyway". ..... Posted by JeanieK 2-3...post #395 Quote...
"I repeat, we did not and do not intend to write a standard at this time, if ever"..........My response to this is...:confused::confused::confused: I guess majoring in English did me no good at all. If this doesn't mean what I think it means, can someone help me out?

You neglected to quote the part were both of us stated that we use the Standard as written by the YTCA. I said facetiously that we should adjust the standard. Apparently that flew right over your head.

Now would you care to explain to me and everyone else just where you are going with this line of interrogation and what it has to do with anything?

For someone who claims to be neutral, you sure like to keep stirring the pot, and by that I do not mean that you are actually physically stirring a pot.

Not a problem Woogie Man ... we won't be changing any of the "standards" information. When we update the website, we will be adding a health section where information on "Parti Coloring and Deafness" will be discussed. In that section, we will make note about "keeping color on the heads appears to lessen the chances of deafness in other breeds" (or something along those lines).

Since you are an English Major, and you seem to have some free time, maybe you'd like to write the article for us (Just Kidding) ;)

That's good to hear. From looking at what parti breeders (of other breeds) do, it seems to be a manageable problem, so long as a breeder is mindful of it. I was never trying to be an alarmist, only posting some info, which some seemed to resent, distort and dismiss. I'm sure you'll do fine with your article. There's plenty of good research (albeit not specific to the Parti Yorkie) already done to draw from.

JeanieK, I just don't know how to answer you. You seem to spin in your own orbit. Your obvious contradictions are sprinkled throughout this thread so people can make of them what they will. Plus, no matter how I answer you, it seems like you'll have the last word.

well this is my opinion...............find some where online or in books or where ever a list that is universal to all terriers..........that way it doesnt look like you are singling out one breed and knit picking.......im all about being fair...and nice...anyone who ever takes the time to get to know me can vouch for that.......lol............i just think there should be a way of getting the information out to others without scareing people.......that's just the way i am though...........all about making everyone happy whenever possible.......but i know there are those out there that will never be happy no matter what.....if there was just a way to get all the kennel clubs to come together for the good of the ""BREED"".......instead of one Club thinking they are better than the rest.......the goal should be the same.........because for what information that is out there........the parti and the biewer came from 2 standard yorkie parents..........so yes they are yorkies......whether or not the kennel clubs leave the name in or not............like i said this is all my opinion.....ok....im getting off my soap box.......lol

As long as accusations are being made and my words are being taken out of context, I will defend myself. If you want to have the last word, make it positive.

This is a very nice post. I can tell you are a very happy well settled person.

Thanks......i just think there should be a better way of getting this out to the breeders, owners and future owners of all yorkies, partis and biewers in a way that is not threatning or rude to other people........but that is just me.....i will tell you this....this thread has been very educational.....im still learning.....and want to know all i can about my babies..........thanks to all who have stated facts.........im sure we all just want what is best for these darlings

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: I enjoyed all your posts Woogie Man. Good job!

Some of the members do seem to like to push buttons, and I hope this doesn't discourage you from posting. I learned something in your post in another thread about genetic makers, if fact, you might say I had an epiphany, and I very much appreciate informative posters.

Everything is a-okay. Nothing to see here :p. Your i.d. is just fine :thumbup:.

This is a highly charged thread. Maybe everyone can cool 'er down a bit, eh?

Biewer vs Parti???
 

Can you please explain what the difference is between a parti and a biewer? Or is there a difference?
Thanks!
Sophiepup

Although the Biewer originated from the Yorkie it has now evolved into a breed of its own. This is where the differences lie within the clubs. Through genetic testing we are able to see where they no longer are the same breed. There is a wait and see period when all will come out.
WoogieMan, thank you for trying to educate. Your posts were very informative. There are always those that will close their minds and not want to see the science behind breeding.

Thank you Sierrapups. Yes, she is right, it is a matter now of waiting and soon it will all come out. Once again, the genetic marker has been identified and is becoming stronger through dedicated breeders working with geneticists for establishing the Biewer Terrier.

sophiepup......this is my understanding of the difference in the parti to the biewer.......the parti's colorings are mingled..........and the biewer's colors are in specific places and it is symmetrical.........in other words even sided......with white legs, white tail......or at least the end i think...........and they usually dont have a break in colors........sierrapups could probably explain it better than i can