Parti confussion?????

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Actually, its the YTCA that could give a rats a** about the parti breeders. And they are definately not afraid of the colorful yorkshire terrier club and its band of parti breeders either. I never said that being a parti breeder made you a bad person, I just dont agree with your ethics as a responsible yorkei breeder.
And for your information, Joan Gordon was actually on the committee that got the color DQ passed, says that there is no recessive gene for spotting and has also written a booklet on that subject, available on the YTCA site. She has also written an extensive history of the breed.
I am sure that you parti breeders assume that YTCA has a gun to her head as well.lol I doubt very much if she did that big a flip-flop on the issue.

I have her book.

She may very well have been on the committee to get the color DQd but she also told the AKC that she had more parti puppies than Nikko kennels ever had.

Just because she felt the color should be DQd does not mean that her dogs never produced them.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

I have some sources that say we didnt go to the moon and that the Earth is flat also.

REALLY??? More

Perhaps if you contacted the AKC you would get that information also. Or are you afraid to?

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

But you dont believe in "standards"!!LOL At least not the Yorkshire Terrier Standard. Your statement is like the pot calling the kettle black!!LOL
That little show on TV was VERY one sided and only showed a minute number of show people. Sad as this film was, this does not represent the majority of the true exhibitor/breeders or breed clubs/kennel clubs. There will ALWAYS be the few that give a black eye to the majority. But people like you that believe the factuality of that film hook, line and sinker is exactly the people this film was made for.

No I do not agree with the YTCA disqualifying a color that is a natural part of the yorkie makeup.

anyone who reads what I wrote will understand that my objection is to breeders who breed health issues into the breed. As far as I know that is not happening with the yorkies.

So what point were you attempting to make?

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Good post!! Some parti breeders seem to think that its the reputable show breeder that is ALWAYS sweeping things under the rug. Well, i bet it happens in the parti world as well, even you reputable ones. We show breeders just dont hear about it. HMMMMMMMMMM. In fact I really havent seen ANY facts pertaining to the parti except hear-say. Its always "I have been told by so and so" or "I have a copy of a letter to someone about the extensive investigation", or " many old time breeders including the Wildweir twins said this , that and the other thing". So which twin said what? Somehow all things posted only point to Nikko, who is known for selling their dogs, even their SHOW stock without breeder contracts.(by the way, I talked to Nikko way back when they were showing Johnny)
So I have to ask, WHY ALL THE SECRETS!!! You are condemming the show people for doing the exact same thing that you are doing.

And what secrets are you referring to? We have never kept any secrets. I have nothing to keep secret.

I have said all along that there are parti breeders that are selling dogs that are not pure breds. I know there are disreputable parti breeders. But not all of us are in it for the money. In fact all of the ones that I am closely aquainted with are struggling to pay their bills just like I am.

We just want to be left alone to develope the parti colored yorkies nd let te world see them.

Many many other breeds f dogs have changed color standards over the years. I'm sure much to the dismay of other breeders. It's going to happen they are here to stay, so get over it.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Pruett

Hallelujah we know some of the same people and Planet of the Apes was a documentary not science fiction.

I don't believe you can mix 2 cans of black paint together and get 1 can of white paint either.

Thank You for the compliment on my baby.

And just where did those lovely little Biewers come from. did they all of a sudden just sow up?

this is so funny. the parti and the biewer are the same dog. Yet biewers are approved of and partis are not. You don't make any sense.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Pruett

I don't believe you can mix 2 cans of black paint together and get 1 can of white paint either.

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The definition of black is the absence of color. the definition of white is a combination of all colors. so perhaps if you mix a few other colors in with the black, you can get white.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Pruett

If everyone would do a DNA profile (not Mars although a good idea) on all their breeding dogs, we wouldn't be having this debate. I can just imagine if everyone had to DNA the mom and dad, grandma, grandpa, and great grand parents how many dogs would all the sudden have died of unknown causes. I ask a breeder in Germany do DNA on a litter and they absolutely refused.

My guess is that there would be a wide variety among the traditional yorkies as well. Tere are many different lines out there and not all yorkie lines were produced from the same combination of dogs.

This DNAing to determine breed is not very accurate. It really isn't even designed to determine whether or not a dog is pure bred. at this point it is more of a novelty.

[Pruett]

Originally Posted by jeaniek

the definition of black is the absence of color. The definition of white is a combination of all colors. So perhaps if you mix a few other colors in with the black, you can get white.

Bingo!!!!!!!!

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

REALLY??? More

Perhaps if you contacted the AKC you would get that information also. Or are you afraid to?

So do you think that the AKC will actually tell me if the Earth is flat?
Why would I be afraid to contact the AKC???

You are speaking like you are a child, like you are double daring me to call AkC. HOw do you know that I havent already? And you definately do not know who I know at AkC either.

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

No I do not agree with the YTCA disqualifying a color that is a natural part of the yorkie makeup.

anyone who reads what I wrote will understand that my objection is to breeders who breed health issues into the breed. As far as I know that is not happening with the yorkies.

So what point were you attempting to make?

The point I AM making is that you seem to jump with glee everytime anything, be it a biased TV show or Peta or anything else, bashes the show breeders/scene. I think that you are just a tad jealous that you and your parti poopers are not recognised in the show circle and are basically snubbed by the show breeders. I think that you REALLY want the pride and glory of showing but will never get the opportunity to do so. I think that you are just a little annoyed that no reputable show breeder will breed to your pet quality dogs in order for you to improve your breedings. I doubt very much if your pedigrees will ever have Sure Shot in them and he is conformationally one of the best.
I think that this is exactly why you posted as you did with such snidness reguarding the post

[yorkiekist]

I will finish that sentence.


reguarding post #127 with you post #130.

You showed your true colors when you posted that.

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I have her book.

She may very well have been on the committee to get the color DQd but she also told the AKC that she had more parti puppies than Nikko kennels ever had.

Just because she felt the color should be DQd does not mean that her dogs never produced them.

I would like to see Joans "quote" in writing and the entire conversation.

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Not sure what all that was supposed to mean.

I dont doubt it.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Pruett

Bingo!!!!!!!!

There are many colors already mixed in the yorkie makeup.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

So do you think that the AKC will actually tell me if the Earth is flat?
Why would I be afraid to contact the AKC???

You are speaking like you are a child, like you are double daring me to call AkC. HOw do you know that I havent already? And you definately do not know who I know at AkC either.

I know that you haven't because if you had, you would know and we would not be having this discussion. I don't think you want to know the truth.