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12-16-2008, 12:02 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tennessee
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| Any one familiar with Moon Valley Kennel I have just found and put a deposit down on a beautiful baby girl, AVA. Who will be coming home Christmas Eve. I was wondering if any one was familiar with Moon Valley Kennel. Thanks. |
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12-16-2008, 12:23 PM | #2 |
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| I just went to the website, but, didn't see any puppies on there for sale or the parents of any either |
12-16-2008, 02:57 PM | #3 |
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| If it is the one in Tennessee, she is a member here. |
12-17-2008, 02:49 PM | #4 |
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12-17-2008, 04:36 PM | #5 | |
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12-17-2008, 04:50 PM | #6 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
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| Hi everyone - this is Rachel, Betty's daughter. As some of you may already know, there was a news story on my mom's kennel this evening. Well, I have got to speak up in defense of my mom. I was here when Walt bought Lance. He was 3.5 lbs at 10 months. Walt came to our house with his wife to see Lance and they loved him. Mom told him he had baby teeth that needed to be removed at the same time he was to be neutered. (He signed a contract agreeing to neuter Lance within 6 months.) In the news interview, he said his teeth were rotten and infected. ??? Seriously? Retained puppy teeth are common in toy breeds. That is a no-brainer. The other thing is the retained testicle. Again, Seriously?? We know Cryptorchidism is hereditary, but only a couple of other dogs from these lines have inherited it. It is not a life-threatening condition. Yes, later on in life it can produce cancer, but at 10 months old, it is a simple procedure that is taken care when the animal is neutered. My mother is a very responsible breeder. If she wasn't, she would not have been doing this for 16 years. Also, buyers sign a contract agreeing to the terms set forth as did Walt. She ALWAYS goes over the contract in a nutshell and explains the condition of bringing a puppy back and replacing it with another one, if applicable. She has umpteen references she can release to anyone at the drop of a hat, including our veterinarian (Dr. Butler Jr., Knoxville, TN. - 865-531-7311) AND several members here on YT. On top of that she is a very caring and charitable person. She helps people when there is a need, she is there. She bends over backwards for her customers, is always there after the sale if someone has questions or would like for her to administer shots and so on and so forth. She is the not this horrible person Walt is trying to make her out as. Inspectors for AKC have been visiting our kennel regularly for the past 5 or 6 years, each time impressing them and passing the inspection with flying colors. In fact, the inspector that came out this past summer asked to take pictures of our kennel system so he could suggest our design to other breeders that he inspects. What we are dealing with is a dissatisfied old man with a serious case of BUYERS REMORSE. I failed to mention above that Walt and Carole told us that they had returned two puppies to other breeders because of whatever reason. Hmm.. sound familiar? He also claimed that Lance had infected ears. Bullcrap! He wasn't scratching or in discomfort - he was running around playing like crazy with the other babies we had out to show Walt. If he had mites, which is entirely possible, they were minor and they are easily treated. If she had known that he had them, she would have GIVEN him the medicine to treat it, instead of him paying $177 to have his outrageously expensive vet do it for him. I read all the emails between this guy and my mom. He is an unreasonable old grouch who cannot be pleased. My mom offered to pay for part of the vet bill at HER VET (Dr. Butler as mentioned above) and meet him during the surgery. I guess he likes to be in the lime light and is trying his best to ruin the Moon Valley Kennel reputation. I don't appreciate it and find it very insulting. If any of you would like to call up and talk to my mom (BEFORE anyone of you ol' timers on this board want to make accusations about her or her Yorkies without dealing with her personally, or judging her based on the website [by the way is ONLY maintained by my husband and I who work full time jobs ... to help her out a little online.]) you are more than welcome to. Her phone number is 865-591-7220. By all means, leave a message if she doesn't answer. She absolutely will return your call. I am going to emphasize, one more time, that I will be very upset if I get back on here and read accusing comments from people do not have first contact or dealings with my mother. It is insulting and immature and I am tired of reading comments that degrade other people. That is all I'm going to say about the situation. If you have something negative to say, please PM me and talk to me about it first. Better yet, just give us a call and tell us in person so we can adequately defend ourselves. I look forward to seeing where this thread goes. This whole situation is unfair and ridiculous.
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12-17-2008, 05:01 PM | #7 | |
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12-18-2008, 05:32 AM | #8 |
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| Why would you just join today, and post something about someone you know nothing about???????? Have you meet Betty or been to her Kennel? Have you purchased a Yorkie from Betty???? I looked into you info and see that there is NOTHING there about YOU!!!!! When you want to post something negative about someone let it be known who you are!!!!!!!!!! Steven |
12-18-2008, 05:39 AM | #9 |
BANNED! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweetwater TN.
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| To the new member who posted the vidio on Moon Valley Kennel, How nice of you to post something negative on your very first day as a member I noticed that you have no info of who you are and where you are?????? Do you know Betty, have you been to her Kennel, have you purchased a Yorkie from Betty?????? You just post something you think will be negative and run coward!! Steven Graysons Kennels Sweetwater Tennessee |
12-18-2008, 05:59 AM | #10 |
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| The other thing is the retained testicle. Again, Seriously?? We know Cryptorchidism is hereditary, but only a couple of other dogs from these lines have inherited it. It is not a life-threatening condition. Yes, later on in life it can produce cancer, but at 10 months old, it is a simple procedure that is taken care when the animal is neutered MY ONLY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE IF YOU KNOW THESE LINES HAVE A CHANCE OF PRODUCING THIS WHY ARE THEY BEING BRED? |
12-18-2008, 06:28 AM | #11 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlottesville virginia
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| Everyone that breeds never has perfect Yorkies.. If you put a depoist down on a baby I say go for it.. and If i was Betty give that guy his money and get the puppy and fix him and sell him to a nice family or give him to someone that will love him that cant afford to buy one... Merry Christmas everyone... No worries just get the puppy and love them.. |
12-18-2008, 06:35 AM | #12 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
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| No breeder removes a quality male stud who he himself does have this problem, just because a pup is produced every once in a blue moon with a retained testicle. On top of that, at 10 months of age, the retained testicle can still drop until 14 months of age. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE BEING BRED.
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12-18-2008, 06:49 AM | #13 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
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| EDIT: TO THE ABOVE POST! OUR STUDS DO NOT NOT NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM! Stupid typos.
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12-18-2008, 07:41 AM | #14 |
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| Betty has the most beautiful dogs, and I would buy one from her without a doubt. I have never met Betty or Rachel but I have spoken to Betty on the phone before when looking to add to our family and is she is very sweet and very very knowledgable. She told more than I could have ever even though to ask about her dogs, she held nothing back. I would be honored to have one of her dogs. Sarah
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12-18-2008, 09:14 AM | #15 | |
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i find this interesting i did not mean to offend i guess i just do thing different it can become a cycle of things to come by the correct offspring if my dog was having undescended i would not want to carry the trait on threw the next generations as we know this is genetic good stud or not it is in the lines and there is really no clear answer as to how far back it goes just my opinion so i guess if my male threw 2 pups with lp 4 this litter and 2 without it would be ok to sell the ones without on the hopes it would not show up again? i guess i do not see the logic but than again to each there own I believe it is safe to say that cryptorchidism is genetic, that it is in some way recessive, and that there is some sort of connection between bilateral cryptorchids and unilateral ones. Perhaps there is also a connection between the pituitary and floating testicles. At any rate, the unilateral condition at least is so widespread in many families and breeds that an all-out effort to combat it would take our minds and efforts away from more serious disorders, which would consequently increase. It’s just a minor thing we have to put up with. Simply remove the affected ones from the gene pool, and shift your preference away from breeding any (including females) that come from litters in which the defect occurred. Since cryptorchidism is sex-limited (only affected males, not carrier females, show it) it is likely to persist at about the same prevalence in the breed for a long, long time. In Germany and many other countries, where registration is denied cryptorchids and sanctions are made against their parents, more than half of the "VA" (top show) GSDs in a 20-year period sired cryptorchids and hence were carriers Frequently, owners notice that the puppy they just purchased only has one or possibly no testicles within the scrotum. Although different dates are listed in some of the veterinary literature, both testicles are usually within the scrotum by the time the animal is six weeks of age and they should definitely be there by the time the puppy is eight to ten weeks of age. If one or both testicles are not present at that location by twelve weeks of age, they probably never will be and the animal is said to be suffering from cryptorchidism or 'retained testicles.' This is a disorder that may be passed from generation to generation | |
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