Dovercastle yorkshire terriers?

[layorkiemom]

Originally Posted by yorkieisme

Guys I think this whole bashing was a set up. OP comes on asking her question, then the next thing a bunch of cat people come on board to bash her. One breeder even stated she bred a dog that was insane because she was a "good producer". This board needs to be closed down, it was all about bashing and revenge on someone. Even if she is a bad breeder she does not deserve this type of treatment from a bunch of women who are mad and one even stating she is producing puppies off a "mental case". This breeder stated that the animal lived in a cage and that is why. Still doesn't matter, she probably still is a mental case and should have snapped out of by now if she is not living in cage.

Oh I have been to cat shows, and those people are rude, mean, and right down hateful. They have been known to make cats sick so they could win a title. Not saying it is the posters, but I know for a fact that some do it. I also know some that are showing risk the cats lives, because they want to produce show and they find out the cats tested Positive for PKD, so they feel if they put one negative PKD with a POS.they will have a 50% litter of Neg. PKD kittens. Horrible liver disease, however out of a show breeder mouth... "its to expensive to start back over, so what am I suppose to do".

I wanted to quote this member just to say that first of all I certainly did not set anybody up, how presumptuous of you to even say that!
Second, I do not know any cat breeders here in the States or in Canada but I would never generalize and say that they are "rude, mean and right down hateful" You must know a lot of "those people" to make a statement so broad or maybe you just tried to insult, (intentionally or not) as many people as possible in one post?
I have not been back to this thread in a while but if in the future you have a question about any post I make you are welcome to PM me with your questions about it.

I want to thank those particularly the breeders (cat and yorkie) who have responded with their experiences/warnings. I appreciate any and all information. That is why I came here to ask my questions and do the research that I did on the breeder.

This is a public forum, reaching out to many that come here to read as well as members, sometimes it is the best venue for research, sometimes not.
You need to be smart enough to see what is vengeful posting and what isn't . So ask for experiences as I did but then follow up on the answers, it is quite simple really.
I did check into the accusations when they were first posted and sadly it seems they are all true.

[bustersdaddy]

WOW!!!! is everyone this vile? I always say thie truth will set you free, and judge not others unless you point that finger back at you!!!! I am new but I can see some here have nothing better to do than judge and point fringers someones going to be eating some humble pie later, and believe me it does not go down well, so sorry this has to happen, boy I can see who to stay clear of so I 'm not the talk of yorkie town later on. good night all buster and I have a long day ahead.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by yorkieisme

Okay well how do i make that picture bigger so I can see your yorkie. Now is she or he one of your own kennel name?

Can't make the picture larger.......Charmer is from my breeder, he's "Ch. This I'm Here Let's Party" He's my foundation stud.

[Smarty Bones]

Originally Posted by Gazou

This thread should be closed because there is nothing constructive coming out of it .

[doverccastle]

That is why I came here to ask my questions and do the research that I did on the breeder.

Honestly this is too much ! I have read this - sorry I have been at a dog show , but I can say some people should get a life

This is a very OLD feud ! Indeed 14 years ago ... one person chose to make it seem like a new story - It is NOT
It is also a story that has been discussed in private with every Major player that I have come into contact with in dogs ! Says Allot for this game IMO! Want names ? The " cat " has been out of the bag for a LONG time now - YEARS! ridiculous

14 years ago there was a certificate for travel across the boarder - Flight - Drive , Boat ... how ever people take their animals across the border there is MANY that use this same method - Many Many !!! OK - All those well known unimpeachable breeders out there - have ALL done it !
I was encouraged by " FRIENDS " ( unfortunately this word is short lived in animals ) to do travel certificate. Either way there is no blame to others I did it myself. To get an animal back to someone who wanted it. There were reasons for wanting the animal - NOW - none of them had anything to do with harm - Most of it had to do with what the animal was carrying inside and the pedigree.

When asked about the certificate by CFA ONLY CFA - ( as there was an immediate complaint filed once the certificate was received by those who encouraged it) - I replied truthfully - YES ! The complaint was about a certificate - not about animal abuse !

I was fined and suspended for a short time for telling the truth - I could have lied , but I didn't. This was not the beginning of talk and gossip - nor was it the end - I also was achieving National Awards in animals in Shows and Regional awards for approximately 5 years straight in my Country and Region - so there is only one place to go when you are up, and it is usually down or there is some " friend " to drag you down ! If you disagree with this then you have not been in show animals long enough , and don't know how nasty it can be and is .

So there was talk gossip he said she said they did they want blah blah and disagreements in animals there always is disagreements in animals ! - two years later I sent an animal and there was a disagreement and the person filed a complaint that I made a certificate - "Like Last time" ! This is FALSE ! I DID NOT DO THAT ! I cant say who or why , but I am sure she was contacted and encouraged to do this and that , and in the end it came down to the same type of game this is - the we can " get them " game ! Isn't it fun !! - this is typical behavior in people who show animals - so there was a complaint sent to CFA saying I had sent a false document.

this is where is gets too personal in my opinion I personally don't think I should have to open my life - but so many think they are entitled , and if they don't hear it or read then it is all terrible and nasty and so truthful - cause you didn't say this or do that or describe to perfect strangers your whole life story - makes you a terrible person and guilty of everything anyone can dream up and say.

A complaint was filed by this person saying that I had sent an untruthful document for travel "again" ... I DID NO SUCH THING ! nor would I have! As a matter of fact I will not have any trouble saying this in a court of law ! Under Oath ! So some should be prepared !

I did not respond to the complaint - they send a complaint and say send your response and then you go in front of who ever and they get to see if you are right or wrong - I did not respond to the second complaint - I did not do it , send it , file it , forge it , sign it .... call it what you will . By this time after dealing with the fall out of the first complaint - the gossip and talk and so on for a few years My family had been through two years of gossip and slander and threats and accusations and Strife ! and I could not take it any longer - I had lost the heart for all of it - I also at this time had an terrible car accident - life altering car accident that left me physically broken in many places and left my son emotionally terrified . So I gave up showing animals for a time , and tried to pull my family together and recover.

In not responding - CFA made a decision and said there is not a reply so we will do this - and they suspended me - this , people who are SO interested in all of the details - is what was done that was so terrible that CFA closed the door for me - No abuse , no cruelty , no death and destruction , no terrible dramatic ending - sorry to stop the witch hunt and not be hung in the middle of the town square - but this is the facts - Not the accusations , not the allegations - FACT !

I have NEVER abused an animal , NEVER been charged with Animal Abuse , NEVER had an animal removed from my care , NEVER had so much of the things that are said NOW even happen ! Google her and see she is this and she is that ! Show me the Google with the charges of animal cruelty ?? You will not find it - it did not happen ! !

I have not done many of the things that I have been said to do. I did not change my kennel name twice - I do not live in filth and have Never ! I do not have a basement - let alone a basement of horror or a garage let alone a garage of death - nor do I have carriers all over my home with animals living in them - NOR have I EVER lived like this !!! This coming from two people who have NOT EVER BEEN TO MY HOME !! They must be Physic and able to see through walls , or in some cases be able to vision something over a thousand miles away ?? What a gift that must be ladies ! I have placed images of my home interior on my site - Should I have to do this ? I think not , but how do you stop a run away train ?

Terrible suffering animals ?? Listen ! These people have called the SPCA MANY TIMES !! Right poster ? I wonder why didn't they lock me up and toss the key ? Why did not they take my animals and save them from certain death ... ???? Because there was NO reason to !!!!!!!!! Good Grief !!

" I wouldn't know a show animal if I fell over it " Well I beg to differ ! I think I would and do know a show animal and after many years of winning in many states and provinces across Canada and the US there must have been something I knew - so on it goes ... As well show me an animal that can go out to show after living in such horrid conditions , struggling with life and death ???? STOP THINK !!!! It does not happen - it can not happen , this is not TRUTH !

There are a few people who want to Perpetuate this story and dramatize it add in some of their own terrible screams for help and toss in a bit of life and death to top it off - makes it sound better I would guess - But it does NOT MAKE IT FACT !!!!!!!

This is the real issue - this is where the Libelous suit flies in ... I don't care how many pieces of paper you have that say this and that - None have EVER been sent to me by these accusers , sent to my Lawyer - SEND IT ! what ever is on them I am sure is not the truth the whole truth and nothing but ... If it was it would not be so much fun right ? Destruction and strife and gossip make many people want to wake up each day turn on the computer and then pick up the phone - some simply live for it !!!

There are a select few and all they do is try to make this into a terrifying horrific non stop story of being conned and taken. Lorraine I am glad you finally got a dog from Laurie you must be doing something right - Those who were supposedly conned were told this entire story BEFORE they gave me 6 dogs! Funny how that works it was okay then but now it something she did not know ... LOL I wonder if it has something to do with the issues she faces that are damaging now ?? That's another story !

Now I know you will cry out some life and death reason why I am a liar - Dear original Poster - but I am not an animal killer ! I only know of one , no opps two who have done this - and both of them are on one of this lists subscribers face book as " friends " ! Point your finger and 4 point back to you , you do not even know those you defend ! I do ! Or maybe you do ???

I have an open Libelous suit - I can open more than two , three four , .... for this is what this thread is ! I think the moderator should have stopped this - but maybe she has friends who want this to carry on, and maybe not - maybe she is on vacation.

As I said before - I think that the one poster went on about how terrible and crazy this animal was that was bred by someone in Europe - not by myself , how terrible it was ... and then two paragraphs later it " GREAT " " HAPPY " 22 puppies " Good For Me " financial gain ... I am no so sure that I would breed an animal that was all of these things and prolificate the line or the gene pool myself but it was terrible and then it was wonderful - so you kinda lost me there ?? yup ! I do know that two puppies back from this dog - could not be kept in a breeding situation , as they were filled with Cocidiosis and VERY Mature Ear mites !

I wish you all well
Good Bye back to Real life .

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by bustersdaddy

WOW!!!! is everyone this vile? I always say thie truth will set you free, and judge not others unless you point that finger back at you!!!! I am new but I can see some here have nothing better to do than judge and point fringers someones going to be eating some humble pie later, and believe me it does not go down well, so sorry this has to happen, boy I can see who to stay clear of so I 'm not the talk of yorkie town later on. good night all buster and I have a long day ahead.

I don't consider myself or others on this thread that questioned or reviewed Dovercastle's practices at all vile. My loyalty is and always will be to the dog (or cat), if I'm aware of abuse and keep silent, I (or anyone) am no better than the accused....a proven animal abuser.

Remember this is a "Review" section, and you will read the good, bad and ugly.....not every review will be a glowing, positive report.

[nexus]

Hey Tracy
First of all I would like to say any information from that cat breeders they refer you to Tracy?Why would anyone move to a different province and start using a different name?You are telling everyone to google your name when in fact they know you as leanne nothing will show up on the internet in that name now will it? So your real name is Tracy correct? You havent really verified that have you?You have changed your name for a reason and that reason is you were hoping the cat breeders didnt find you.Well it seems they did and all thats where all the information came from.I couldnt possibly make all that stuff up could I?NOW can you explain what happen to the dog you bought from a breeder out west moved to ontario the dog died or was killed and you were using papers claiming that dog was siring pups?Just in case you have forgot her name is Donna Weir does that ring a bell..It is very strange that everyone that has had dealing with you in cats have all labelled you as an abuser among the other things you have done.I am not going to get into as you know exactly what I am talking about.Yes you may have the top handler show your dog but money talks doesnt it?As I said we DONT have the on going cash flow YOU DO!!!!!!!!!!How can one that doesnt work afford to pay a handler???We both know that answer dont we!You see Tracy this is a big world but when you screw up it becomes very small.The only thing you have done right in the dog world is show the dogs but the other things you have done is totally among. A good reference tells me you were buying dogs unregistered and putting them on different litters.Is that what you did regarding Rommie is she the real DOG?????I am sure all of us have had the SPCA called on us and you are fully aware that aslong as the dogs have food water shelter that is all they are looking for? I guess with all the information I have been told signed by the people you have dealt with(cat breeders) is you preformed surgery on animals when one isn't permitted to do so,then you would admister the animal with your home cooked drugs.How would you defend your self when some of the letters are from lawyers etc and vet clinic Are you going to say you dont make your own meds for your animals when it is in black and white,You see you think it is the dog breeders that are spreading rumors when infact none are rumors when you have it in writing from all over the world,Why would they want to warn all the dog breeders about you if it isn't true again they have all the proof of what you did in the cat world and they want to warn other breeders whether it is dogs-cats or what ever, It seems you shoudnt own an animal.You and your crazy friend from Alberta stole a precription pad from a vet clinic where your friend worked, Why would one want to do that and where would one make up such a lie!Again because it is true ISANT IT!I am sure you are wondering what is the benefit for me to tell everyone this well the main thing is you shouldnt own animals.You may think I am jealous you have nic nak lines and Durers lines well I am not jealous one bit I dont need or want Laurie or Betty-Anne"s dogs nor do I need to have top show dogs either to feel specail either.You were lucky and pretty well given show dogs etc and the grooming was done by the handler correct so you are just the fiancer!Another thing is these dogs are not yours they are your husbands so why are you trying to defend your self with these dogs when in fact they are not yours.The kennel name is your husbands aswell as the dogs so where do you fit in. The real reason is the dogs are truly your's but again you are wanting to hide your real name right TRACY FURLOTTE as I know you as.It is funny dont you think the dog people know you as Leanne and the cat people know you as Tracy very strange again why would one want to change their name. And to your answer you didnt change kennel name it was cattery names you changed.You are talking about gossip your husband called me last summer telling me about a certain breeder and there living condition"s of the dogs and then you tell a breeder a lie about my living conditions at my home and then you are so sweet on the phone and basically lie that you said such a thing,Why would you do that?I guess no one really knows the truth about your dogs as no one get into your house to actually see the truth,I am sure they wouldnt be surprised as it looks as you are doing the same in dogs as you did in cats,,,,,,,,,,,,I never once said the dog I purchased from you had health issue"s I said she ws nuts as she lived her life in cage so for you to defend yourself by saying you didnt breed her that is poor excuse when in fact you caused her mental problems,Why would you sell a dog your husband imported from Europe and then decide a few years later you want to lease her,Well Tracy this all boils down to who you really are and the truth has come to light and you are still in denial thinking this will just pass over and everyone will forget it WAKE UP they are not going let it pass over and forget it because they know the truth and again it all came from people all over the world so quit trying to put blam on me you are the one to blam for this you are the one that has done it not me.
You should really sit down and think why you are using a different name why do these cat breeders have all the proof when you say it didnt happen and of course you only mentioned what you want to mention,You cant be honest with your self never mind the public eye.None of this ficton or gossip when in fact is it the truth correct!!!!!!!!! This is no set up you set up your self by not using your real name putting dogs in your husbands name and you never really sign any of your posts and when you do it isant your name name ,anyways so guess it doesnt really matter as you are wishing you could wake up and this would all go away well it is not people are wise to you Tracy and the only one you are fooling is your self..............Not Us!
Tracy Gault

[cesar49]

Originally Posted by doverccastle

That is why I came here to ask my questions and do the research that I did on the breeder.

Honestly this is too much ! I have read this - sorry I have been at a dog show , but I can say some people should get a life

This is a very OLD feud ! Indeed 14 years ago ... one person chose to make it seem like a new story - It is NOT
It is also a story that has been discussed in private with every Major player that I have come into contact with in dogs ! Says Allot for this game IMO! Want names ? The " cat " has been out of the bag for a LONG time now - YEARS! ridiculous

14 years ago there was a certificate for travel across the boarder - Flight - Drive , Boat ... how ever people take their animals across the border there is MANY that use this same method - Many Many !!! OK - All those well known unimpeachable breeders out there - have ALL done it !
I was encouraged by " FRIENDS " ( unfortunately this word is short lived in animals ) to do travel certificate. Either way there is no blame to others I did it myself. To get an animal back to someone who wanted it. There were reasons for wanting the animal - NOW - none of them had anything to do with harm - Most of it had to do with what the animal was carrying inside and the pedigree.

When asked about the certificate by CFA ONLY CFA - ( as there was an immediate complaint filed once the certificate was received by those who encouraged it) - I replied truthfully - YES ! The complaint was about a certificate - not about animal abuse !

I was fined and suspended for a short time for telling the truth - I could have lied , but I didn't. This was not the beginning of talk and gossip - nor was it the end - I also was achieving National Awards in animals in Shows and Regional awards for approximately 5 years straight in my Country and Region - so there is only one place to go when you are up, and it is usually down or there is some " friend " to drag you down ! If you disagree with this then you have not been in show animals long enough , and don't know how nasty it can be and is .

So there was talk gossip he said she said they did they want blah blah and disagreements in animals there always is disagreements in animals ! - two years later I sent an animal and there was a disagreement and the person filed a complaint that I made a certificate - "Like Last time" ! This is FALSE ! I DID NOT DO THAT ! I cant say who or why , but I am sure she was contacted and encouraged to do this and that , and in the end it came down to the same type of game this is - the we can " get them " game ! Isn't it fun !! - this is typical behavior in people who show animals - so there was a complaint sent to CFA saying I had sent a false document.

this is where is gets too personal in my opinion I personally don't think I should have to open my life - but so many think they are entitled , and if they don't hear it or read then it is all terrible and nasty and so truthful - cause you didn't say this or do that or describe to perfect strangers your whole life story - makes you a terrible person and guilty of everything anyone can dream up and say.

A complaint was filed by this person saying that I had sent an untruthful document for travel "again" ... I DID NO SUCH THING ! nor would I have! As a matter of fact I will not have any trouble saying this in a court of law ! Under Oath ! So some should be prepared !

I did not respond to the complaint - they send a complaint and say send your response and then you go in front of who ever and they get to see if you are right or wrong - I did not respond to the second complaint - I did not do it , send it , file it , forge it , sign it .... call it what you will . By this time after dealing with the fall out of the first complaint - the gossip and talk and so on for a few years My family had been through two years of gossip and slander and threats and accusations and Strife ! and I could not take it any longer - I had lost the heart for all of it - I also at this time had an terrible car accident - life altering car accident that left me physically broken in many places and left my son emotionally terrified . So I gave up showing animals for a time , and tried to pull my family together and recover.

In not responding - CFA made a decision and said there is not a reply so we will do this - and they suspended me - this , people who are SO interested in all of the details - is what was done that was so terrible that CFA closed the door for me - No abuse , no cruelty , no death and destruction , no terrible dramatic ending - sorry to stop the witch hunt and not be hung in the middle of the town square - but this is the facts - Not the accusations , not the allegations - FACT !

I have NEVER abused an animal , NEVER been charged with Animal Abuse , NEVER had an animal removed from my care , NEVER had so much of the things that are said NOW even happen ! Google her and see she is this and she is that ! Show me the Google with the charges of animal cruelty ?? You will not find it - it did not happen ! !

I have not done many of the things that I have been said to do. I did not change my kennel name twice - I do not live in filth and have Never ! I do not have a basement - let alone a basement of horror or a garage let alone a garage of death - nor do I have carriers all over my home with animals living in them - NOR have I EVER lived like this !!! This coming from two people who have NOT EVER BEEN TO MY HOME !! They must be Physic and able to see through walls , or in some cases be able to vision something over a thousand miles away ?? What a gift that must be ladies ! I have placed images of my home interior on my site - Should I have to do this ? I think not , but how do you stop a run away train ?

Terrible suffering animals ?? Listen ! These people have called the SPCA MANY TIMES !! Right poster ? I wonder why didn't they lock me up and toss the key ? Why did not they take my animals and save them from certain death ... ???? Because there was NO reason to !!!!!!!!! Good Grief !!

" I wouldn't know a show animal if I fell over it " Well I beg to differ ! I think I would and do know a show animal and after many years of winning in many states and provinces across Canada and the US there must have been something I knew - so on it goes ... As well show me an animal that can go out to show after living in such horrid conditions , struggling with life and death ???? STOP THINK !!!! It does not happen - it can not happen , this is not TRUTH !

There are a few people who want to Perpetuate this story and dramatize it add in some of their own terrible screams for help and toss in a bit of life and death to top it off - makes it sound better I would guess - But it does NOT MAKE IT FACT !!!!!!!

This is the real issue - this is where the Libelous suit flies in ... I don't care how many pieces of paper you have that say this and that - None have EVER been sent to me by these accusers , sent to my Lawyer - SEND IT ! what ever is on them I am sure is not the truth the whole truth and nothing but ... If it was it would not be so much fun right ? Destruction and strife and gossip make many people want to wake up each day turn on the computer and then pick up the phone - some simply live for it !!!

There are a select few and all they do is try to make this into a terrifying horrific non stop story of being conned and taken. Lorraine I am glad you finally got a dog from Laurie you must be doing something right - Those who were supposedly conned were told this entire story BEFORE they gave me 6 dogs! Funny how that works it was okay then but now it something she did not know ... LOL I wonder if it has something to do with the issues she faces that are damaging now ?? That's another story !

Now I know you will cry out some life and death reason why I am a liar - Dear original Poster - but I am not an animal killer ! I only know of one , no opps two who have done this - and both of them are on one of this lists subscribers face book as " friends " ! Point your finger and 4 point back to you , you do not even know those you defend ! I do ! Or maybe you do ???

I have an open Libelous suit - I can open more than two , three four , .... for this is what this thread is ! I think the moderator should have stopped this - but maybe she has friends who want this to carry on, and maybe not - maybe she is on vacation.

As I said before - I think that the one poster went on about how terrible and crazy this animal was that was bred by someone in Europe - not by myself , how terrible it was ... and then two paragraphs later it " GREAT " " HAPPY " 22 puppies " Good For Me " financial gain ... I am no so sure that I would breed an animal that was all of these things and prolificate the line or the gene pool myself but it was terrible and then it was wonderful - so you kinda lost me there ?? yup ! I do know that two puppies back from this dog - could not be kept in a breeding situation , as they were filled with Cocidiosis and VERY Mature Ear mites !

I wish you all well
Good Bye back to Real life .

thanks for sharing your side of this story.. i am sorry you have to deal with crazy people harassing you..
i hope you do sue them for libel whoever they are.
best wishes for a happy life.
the false accusations of abuse are just not fair.
i believe your story..
even though your life IS none of my business

[KatAttack]

Part II from the other cat breeder.

> I have *NEVER *abused an animal , *NEVER* been charged with Animal Abuse , *NEVER* had an animal removed from my care , *NEVER* had so much of the things that are said NOW even happen ! >>

What about the male cats in your garage? The ones you told me were so filthy they weren't fit to take pictures of. The males that were kept in cages, in the Calgary winters with no heat? Tell me... what happened to those males Tracy? Would you like to share with this list... as I do know what happened to them, you told me.

> I have not done many of the things that I have been said to do. I did not change my kennel name twice - I do not live in filth and have Never ! I do not have a basement - let alone a basement of horror or a garage let alone a garage of death ->>

You sound like a politician... circle talk, smoke and mirrors...you may not have this now, but you DID back in Calgary. And if you didn't have a basement, why did you mention your basement no less than 20 times to me?
nor do I have carriers all over my home with animals living in them - NOR have I EVER lived like this !!! >>

Tracy, you just keep digging a deeper hole.
Actually and factually.... I filed a complaint against you and Animal Control came to your home. The agent was not shown a basement or garage, but he told me over the phone, you had cats in carriers ALL over your living area. Too many for his personal standard and comfort but there was no law against it. Was he lying?
This coming from two people who have NOT EVER BEEN TO MY HOME !! They must be Physic and able to see through walls , or in some cases be able to vision something over a thousand miles away ?? What a gift that must be ladies ! I have placed images of my home interior on my site - Should I have to do this ? I think not , but how do you stop a run away train ? >>

More useless rhetoric. You had your husband deliver kittens locally. I have letters from people who felt threatened by him so they did not file a court action against you for sickly animals. You cost innocent pet owners, people who were willing to give your cats/kittens wonderful, loving homes and you couldn't and wouldn't be responsible for selling ill animals.
> Terrible suffering animals ?? Listen ! These people have *called the SPCA MANY TIMES !! Right poster ?* I wonder why didn't they lock me up and toss the key ? Why did not they take my animals and save them from certain death ... ???? Because there was *NO reason to !!!!!!!!!* Good Grief !! >>

All the "basement" stories.... like the one when you kids were playing unsupervised with your cocker spaniel puppies and they broke its legs? Did you tell the Animal control you had a basement so they could observe things that possibly might incriminate you? Did you tell them of cats in your unheated garage?
>
> This is the real issue - this is where the Libelous suit flies in ... I don't care how many pieces of paper you have that say this and that - None have *EVER been sent to me* by these *accusers* , sent to my Lawyer - SEND IT !>>

The papers are real, I have a filing box full of them. I will never send them to you but will be sending to many authorities that I have spoken with. Tracy, its like you're inviting criminal actions against you?
> There are a select few and all they do is try to make this into a terrifying horrific non stop story of being conned and taken. >>

I have letters from people all over the world... Europe, Australia, S. America, US and Canada. Some you took their money and never sent a cat. The Europe breeder, whom on his web site, front page, in big letters said "DON"T DEAL WITH THE CROOK TRACY FURLOTTE!" then proceeded to send me an email about him AND his relative that paid you for cats they never got.

To all concerned, I gave Tracy Furlotte the chance many times to "right" her wrong doings with me. I tried to appeal to any heart she might have or strand of guilt but...she just couldn't do it.. the lure of good money in dealing with unsuspecting, out of the country, cat people was just too great. Furlotte's made a very good living figuring out how to side step the law and knowing that anyone she dealt with outside of Canada would have great difficulty with recourse. The availability of computers and email brought many people to me and others whom had heard of my dealings with TF. All willing to share their story.

> I have an open Libelous suit - I can open more than two , three four , .... for this is what this thread is ! >>

You continue to threaten, whether it be an attorney or the use of your husband. Do you remember using the "my husband..." threat against me? Your "thug" mentality may have worked locally, but threatening long distance was futile.
<< I think the moderator should have stopped this - but maybe she has friends who want this to carry on, and maybe not - maybe she is on vacation.>>

I think the moderator is wise to let everyone voice their opinions. It opens eyes of many whom are not experienced in the dog/cat world. If you live outside Canada, unless you know the breeder well, look in your own country for a dog/cat. You then can have recourse much easier should the need arise.
You cost me near $10,000 USD in my dealings with you. The cost of the animals, the huge vet bills, and the domino effect it had on my cattery. This doesn't include my time to bring you to CFA suspension, contacting authorities about you, etc. My life is far more important than to be bogged down by your repetitive behavior.
If or you or your attorney want to pay me what you cost me, pay me for copies of literally a filing box full of papers, and the money to show up in court, I'll be a happy to oblige.
Or... if some wealthy person, who loves animals and dislikes people who use and have letters of infractions against animals, who would like to compensate me for my time, travel and copies... I would be happy show up to your court hearing about all of these horrible dog and cat people making up lies about little ol' innocent you.
As you don't sign your name at the bottom of your post, neither will I. You know who I am. I will not answer what I'm sure will be more twisted, convoluted, senseless rhetoric.
I am appealing again to you... stop right now. Get a new lease on life, start being ethical, treat people right, and stop what you are doing to animals. Yes, we know what’s going on right now...

[nexus]

This is Part I of the letter from the other cat breeder in regards to Tracy Furlotte:


*14 years ago* there was a certificate for travel across the boarder - Flight - Drive , Boat ... how ever people take their animals across the border there is *MANY* that use this same method - *Many Many !!>>
We are not interested in "others", only your admittance of falsifying certificates

> I was encouraged by " FRIENDS " to do travel certificate.>>
Personally no friend of mine could ever make me falsify a record. Its against the law.
>
> When asked about the certificate by CFA ONLY CFA - ( as there was an immediate complaint filed once the certificate was received by those who encouraged it) - I replied *truthfully* - YES ! The complaint was about a certificate - not about animal abuse ! >>
It was only CFA as that is the governing assoc. over the registering of cats which you belonged. The first complaint against you was 50 pages long including exhibits. This person live in the US. I was forwarded a copy after the first person heard I made my complaint to CFA. There was mention of other issues but CFA does not have jurisdiction over some matters.
two years later I sent an animal and there was a disagreement and the person filed a complaint that I made a certificate - "Like Last time" ! *This is FALSE ! I DID NOT DO THAT ! >>
Spliting hairs here aren't you? You didn't "make" the certificate, that's not what the complaint was about. You used an unwary vet, took a healthy kitten for exam, got the official certificate and sent it with a very ill kitten. That's why you were permanently suspended. Your poor judgement, selling very ill kittens and then shipping in the absolute worse time of year was the complaint. Your choices were extremely bad for the health and welfare of those kittens.

*I cant say who or why , but I am sure she was contacted and encouraged to do this and that , and in the end it came down to the same type of game this is - *the we can " get them " game !*>>
I didn't need to be contacted by anyone... I have a brain, morals and business ethics along with the standards surrounding the care and love for animals that you could not reach. What you did was unethical on many levels to me and my animals.
Isn't it fun !! - this is typical behavior in people who show animals - so there was a complaint sent to CFA saying I had sent a false document. >>
Actually here is what CFA said...

March 8, 1999
Jaccobberger, Micallef & Assoc., P.A.
Attorneys at Law
St. Paul, MN

CFA vs. Furlotte, Tracy
Docket # 98-115-1215

"The formal charges are that you have engaged in conduct patently detrimental to the cat and to CFA(in violation of Article XV, Section 4(g) of the CFA Constitution) in that you allegedly (1) obtained a health certificate for a healthy kitten, and used the certificate to ship an ill kitten; (2) proposed a false leasing arrangement in an attempt to avoid the services suspension previously adopted by CFA with respect to you. Copies of the files upon which the charges are based are enclosed herewith.
Hearings will commence on Wednesday, June 23, 1999.""


> A complaint was filed by this person saying that I had sent an untruthful document for travel "again" ... *I DID NO SUCH THING !* nor would I have! As a matter of fact I will not have any trouble saying this in a court of law ! Under Oath ! So some should be prepared !>


Under Oath? So far, nothing you said has been true. Actually, all the paperwork is prepared: CFA, TICA, copies of your two suspensions, last one permanent in CFA, and permanent in TICA. Copies of letters from people all over the planet including many whom paid for a cat and never received one, from pet owners sold ill animals.
Again, all your drama...which when people know you are lying makes them do posts like this. And because you are so blatant, people are now rallying, contacting one another, getting their paperwork, canceled checks, etc. I don't know what the punishment is for not paying taxes on a substantial income, by any means, but certainly you must not be concerned.


> I did not respond to the complaint - they send a complaint and say send your response and then you go in front of who ever and they get to see if you are right or wrong - I did not respond to the second complaint - I did not do it , send it , file it , forge it , sign it >>
Actually, the true fact is: I have a copy of your response to the second complaint, its 25 pages long, with typing on both sides of the page. This copy was sent to me by CFA as I had a right to respond, which I did.
.... My family had been through two years of gossip and slander and *threats* and accusations and Strife ! and I could not take it any longer ->>
You seem to have a knack of eliciting these "unfound complaints" against you? I asked you once about that, wondering why so many people, with unrelated issues, could just make up all these detailed complaints about you and your cats.
I also at this time had an terrible car accident - life altering car accident that left me physically broken in many places and left my son emotionally terrified . So I gave up showing animals for a time , and tried to pull my family together and recover.>>
There it is... every time you felt cornered on a issue with me or now this list, you use the "illness" card. When we last spoke, you also made light of the fact you would be monetarily compensated for years over this accident. An accident which when explained to me, certainly was not told like above. You told me the details of this accident and basically, life altering was never mentioned. I have children, my main concern in mentioning any accident would have been more so for the children. You never, and I mean never mentioned your son was even in the accident and I spoke to many times about it.
I asked you if you were on such heavy medication, how could one... run a cattery which is very time consuming in itself, take care of a husband and children, maintain internet activities, etc.
I got my answer but not in a way I would have liked... when you were in the hospital for a kidney infection, which you told me was the reason of any hospitalization you had... on one instance, your husband, for one week while you were gone, never went into your basement to feed all the caged cats. Cats and kittens died. Yet you said nothing to him.


In another conversation about your basement, you mentioned one of your cats after delivering kittens proceeded to eat them. You proceeded to breed her again, she did the same thing. You said to me, you were so disgusted you took her out, put her in a cage in the far end of the basement and turned your back. I cried so hard when I got off the phone, I remember like it was yesterday. Knowing that she probably accidentally ate them with the afterbirth or when animals feel threatened, they feel the need to hide their young. This poor animal was instinctually doing what she had been programmed for. And you purposely and horrifically played god and let her stay in a dark cage, far corner of your basement until she met her demise.
To all... I was told these things after I gave Tracy money for my cats but she was stalling for delivery and used many excuses. I HAD to keep calling her to stay in contact so I would hopefully get my animals. I suppose due to my calling many times a week, she felt comfortable and assumed she could share these intimate but horrific details.
I used to pray and still do that you never owned animals again.


> In not responding - CFA made a decision and said there is not a reply so we will do this - and they suspended me - this ,>>
Again, factually.... you made reply's, I have the copies from CFA. I answered both of them.
people who are *SO* interested in all of the details - is what was done that was so terrible that CFA closed the door for me - *No abuse , no cruelty , no death and destruction >>
CFA only had to find you guilty of one charge to suspend you. As far as cruelty, no one filed charges against you for that other than shipping a very ill kitten. Although I have letters from people who said otherwise.





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[SandyY]

I really can't understand why the moderators didn't stop this thread earlier when the OP's question was answered, rather than have this bickering. It's quite clear that this will not get resolved on here.

The charges of animal neglect, abuse and unethical practice is a very serious one but so is the accusation of someone being neglectful, abusive and the use of unethical practices. All this is nothing but accusations and if it isn't true you are slandering them. If it were me you accused, I'd have you all in court for slander, with a gag order so damn fast you wouldn't know what hit you and if what you've all said about these people isn't true, I hope they do just that.

With keeping records on someone else sense 1999, it does sound more like a personal assault. I really don't see any other way to clear it all up but the courts and that's where you should take it....NOT HERE!!!....You've made your point....THIS THREAD SHOULD BE STOPPED NOW!!!!
Sandy