Need advice from exp. breeders

[yorkiekist]

There are two sides to every story. Once there is a rift between buyer and seller, I think that it is best for both parties involved and the puppy to just cancel the sale and return the money. The seller , in this case, was honest and sent the deposit back. The buyer was fortunate in this case as refunding deposits doesnt always happen.

[Yorkie_Loverz]

Ok I want to clear something up. i have not said a lie about this breeder I Came on here told everyone how I was treated. i didn't come on here and lie about how she treats her dogs, because I would be lying if I said she was bad to her dogs. I said my experience with her was horrible.

1. She says i brought up red flags to her with in fact those issues were revealed to her before the deposit was made, why did she wait so long to discuss them??

2. She is trying to make me sound like a bad mother and that my kids are monsters and that I lied about them being great with dogs. She did hear my little girl cry but come on it was nap time and I did not yell at her. The other time she could of heard her being loud was when I was on the phone with her while shopping at Target again what child doesn't get excited while out shopping?? This was something she never mentioned to me either of course until now that she is trying everything to make herself look good. Besides I don't know why she is complaining about my kids when she herself told me the little girl she was trying to socialize Candy with was a little firecracker and that she jumped from couch to couch because they didn't listen to their mom???

3. The review I left on puppy find, which she deleted, was completely valid. i got treated badly by her. I never lied, never said she was bad to her dogs or anything like that. Aren't we like the buyers supposed to tell other potential buyer about our experiences to avoid it from happening again??

4. If you read my posts, she did not decide to return my deposit because Candy was not right for us, she got made and returned it because she claimed I went behind her back and contacted the breeder. When I was just trying to help by getting second opinions about the way things were being done. She also says I was asked to sign a spay/neuter contract and refused and just wanted her to ship Candy which is not true. She knows that because I told her I would sign anything to be able to get Candy.

Any of you that would like to talk to me in person I would be more than glad to. I would be willing to sit on the phone for hours with my kids there so you can see they are not monsters like she makes them out to be. She has done a good job at trying to make me look like a dishonest person who lied and kept things from her and I just don't understand why. She says the situation with my husband bothered her, well she could have mentioned that at the beginning and all this could have been avoided. She said my children were yelling all the time and I was yelling at them too, if this was in fact true don't you think she would have returned my deposit right away, shoot if I were a breeder I would have so this obviously is not true. I told her about the german shepard about one week after the deposit was placed she had plenty of time to discuss that issue as well! The way she treated me because I told her I talked to the breeder is inexcusable and that's why she is turning things around. You need to understand her true reason for not selling to me, read back please don't just judge me like that. i have e-mails to prove she was well aware of everything and that I was never dishonest about anything. The only one I don't have an e-mail for is the german shepard but I know when I informed her of me bringing him here. This will be my last post as it is obvious that a buyer can be treated like crap and unless the breeder treats her dogs like crap everything is ok.

[Yorkie_Loverz]

One last post to let you all know that she obviously did not think this was a bad home for Candy until after I spoke to the breeder. this e-mail was sent to me Tuesday Sep. 9th. Would you have sent that e-mail to somebody you thought was dishonest to you or that would put your pup in danger???

Hi Myra,
I am sorry you have not heard from me,but I have been very sick. I have a bad kidney infection along with a severe migraine. I spent most of my day at the doctors today and he also told me I have this bug that is going around. Anyway's I will make this quick. I need to have the phone # to that lady Marge. I know you gave it to me,but I think my son thru the paper away by mistake. I will call her and find out what schedules she has and see if we can coincide them together. In the meantime,before I send Candy i will need the remaining $2,150.00. I will find out from Marge if she receives the rest from you,or if I am supposed to give it to her on my end. I have not been able to take Candy over to my neighbors since Saturday,due to feeling like I have been run over by a truck. Hopefully we can get her to you soon. Are the hurricanes coming your way,as I know they are going to Texas? I hope not for you and your families sake. I will say goodnight for now,as my head is beyond pounding,I will try to get a hold of you tomorrow.

Stormy

[tiggerr36792]

Since you are receiving your deposit back at this point I'd like to wish both parties well. Tension like this between parties was easily resolved with the return of a deposit. I see no reason to continue to rehash the past. Good luck to you both!!

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Yorkie_Loverz

One last post to let you all know that she obviously did not think this was a bad home for Candy until after I spoke to the breeder. this e-mail was sent to me Tuesday Sep. 9th. Would you have sent that e-mail to somebody you thought was dishonest to you or that would put your pup in danger???

Hi Myra,
I am sorry you have not heard from me,but I have been very sick. I have a bad kidney infection along with a severe migraine. I spent most of my day at the doctors today and he also told me I have this bug that is going around. Anyway's I will make this quick. I need to have the phone # to that lady Marge. I know you gave it to me,but I think my son thru the paper away by mistake. I will call her and find out what schedules she has and see if we can coincide them together. In the meantime,before I send Candy i will need the remaining $2,150.00. I will find out from Marge if she receives the rest from you,or if I am supposed to give it to her on my end. I have not been able to take Candy over to my neighbors since Saturday,due to feeling like I have been run over by a truck. Hopefully we can get her to you soon. Are the hurricanes coming your way,as I know they are going to Texas? I hope not for you and your families sake. I will say goodnight for now,as my head is beyond pounding,I will try to get a hold of you tomorrow.

Stormy

I dont think the seller thought you were a "bad" home. I just think that she found out that the dog might not be socialized enough to be the pet that you were hoping to get. What if you had gotten the Yorkie and she never made up to you or your kids? Is that the kind of pet that you want? It sounds like you had your heart set on this dog only and no other dog would do. To me, once things start going south, its time to move on.

[Yorkie_Loverz]

Look at the date the socalization issue was brought up Sept. 3rd. Date is very important with that e-mail.

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Yorkie_Loverz

Look at the date the socalization issue was brought up Sept. 3rd. Date is very important with that e-mail.

Please dont keep dwelling on a very dissappointing transaction. Just chalk this up to a learning experience and buy from a reputable YTCA member or a breeder that they can recommend. I know that isnt what you want to hear right now. But if you feel that this "breeder" treated you horribly, then why would you but a dog from her anyway? She doesnt have the market cornered on cute, small, gorgeous Yorkies!!LOL

[mypreciouspups]

Oh my, I am not going to say anything other then maybe you should take back your down payment.. and have it over and done with for continuing is only making you more distraught.
There really are many good breeders on this forum and I think that the price for this little girl is a tad high.. because she is small...
personally I have never thought of buying a puppy on puppyfind nor have I sold one that way.,.
Just want to wish you good luck.. anne

[Susan123]

Concerning the price, that's probably real close to what she paid for a Brynstar girl. Some show breeders advertise on puppyfind. Some from YT. I find nothing wrong with it. Just have to watch out for scammers as with any site there are dogs for sale.

[mypreciouspups]

Originally Posted by Susan123

Concerning the price, that's probably real close to what she paid for a Brynstar girl. Some show breeders advertise on puppyfind. Some from YT. I find nothing wrong with it. Just have to watch out for scammers as with any site there are dogs for sale.

It is the scammers that keep my away from there.. bad enough we find a breeder and get scammed.. yes I was scammed at one time.. long story.. and it makes it hard for good breeders to trusted also.. sad but true.. no matter where the good breeders are.. one needs to go see a baby, buy it and pay for it and take it with you.. lol
Prices are always so different from state to state as in canda also.. if one wants a puppy bad enough I guess one bites the bullet and pays for the asking price..

anne

[Susan123]

Oh believe me, if I had been scammed I'd be alot more leary myself. I haven't purchased through there yet. But have seen some nice dogs there from good breeders. It really is best to see the dog in person. I'm never able to go and just visit. I always bring one home with me.

[stormyg1]

To all of you that support and understand that my puppies welfare is my

main concern.. thank you. It has been just unbelieveable to me that one

person can come along and with her word alone can ruin a persons reputation.

I have tried very hard to be an honest and caring breeder..and this womans

visious attacks have just been overwhelming to me. I am not in the habit of

gossiping.. but I am including one of my emails to her to show all who have

been responding.. that my main concerns are and always will be for my

puppies welfare. I will not stoop to her level by bashing her the way she has

done me..again this is just being sent to show how I tried to work with her.

To all of you who understand my decision I truly thank you.








Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:01 PM


Hello Myra,
Sorry I am getting back to you so late,but had to take care of some things due to being gone longer than anticipated. Did you call the other breeders? If so what were they able to tell you. Most reputable breeders will tell you that a breeder knows her dogs and places them in homes that best fit their personalities. I know you are upset and I don't blame you. I to am upset Myra,as I have never had to do this before. You have to understand.. Candy was very traumatized this weekend,do you really think after going through that,that I should turn around and put her on a plane with a stranger and send her to a home with small children of which is what caused her to be nervous and upset in the first place. I know you purchased food,toys and her bed,but you can get a puppy that is younger and more able to adapt to younger children,or maybe have been raised around younger children and would be more suitable for you and your family. Like I said, what if I were to send her and she just tried to hide from you and the kids all the time? That is not the kind of puppy you want Myra and I as a breeder would not be a very good one, if I sent you a pup and could not guarantee you she would be sociable with your children. You said on the phone today that you waited for her for a month. That was by your choice.. due to the damage that the hurricane did to your home. I have to admit that maybe that was a good thing,as it made me keep Candy longer to take her up north to find out how she reacted towards small children. If that hadn't took place and I sent Candy to you earlier, I would have not known her reaction to small children and that would have made me look very dishonest and made you a very upset mother. I could have taken your money and never said a thing,is that what you would have really wanted? I don't believe you would. I can do a couple of things. I can send your deposit back,or I can try to socialize her with younger children and see how she does. If I think she will come around,I will be more than happy to send her to you,but if I don't think she is responding well enough in a timely manner,than I will not send her and I will send your deposit back to you. Please know I am not in the habit of making people cry..after I got off the phone with you, I to cried.. just knowing how upset this has all been for you. It is getting late and I am totally exhausted after today. Think about what I said over and also what I could try and let me know what you want to do. Until than Take care and god bless.

[Yorkie_Loverz]

Stormy I need to post just this in my defense. i never said you didn't work with me because you did, thank you for that. It has been the lies you have said afterwards that I have been posting about. Still look at the dates that was sent Sept. 4th the e-mail I posted was sent Sept. 9th, I just want everybody to know that I was not dishonest to you as stated and that my deposit was not returned for the reasons you said, but because I called the breeder which i find unfair.

[stormyg1]

I have sent this deposit back to this woman for the reasons I stated.

Stephanie at Brynstar has known I was going to try and sell my little girl

and anyone who has a doubt, is more then welcome to call Stephanie and

and ask her themselves. I have nothing to hide.. and I am done with allowing

this woman to upset me any longer. For those of you who choose to believe

her that is your choice..for those who understand my decision..Thank You

[chachi]

I understand I have a yorkie that gets nervous around children even though I have an 8 yr old child so I understand completely. I know the OP really had her heart set on getting candy and she is hurting but it wouldnt be fair to the dog to put it in that situation.. I hope you can both resolve this and I hope the OP finds a new pup to adopt