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lucynfred · 01-24-2005, 07:59 PM

To the breeders out there, I am considering breeding, but will not do my own yorkie breeding for about another 2 years. I have Luca Dean, a 5 month yorkie, who falls pretty well within the AKC standard as long as his hair becomes silky. How much is the usual fee for stud service -- I've heard a few hundred or the choice of pick of the litter. I want to raise AKC yorkies and maybe even show yorkies (again, later). Should I start off using Luca Dean as a stud and choose a few "picks of the litter," or approach it some other way?

I will be totally new at this and want to raise healthy yorkies (or make sure the dam's owners are raising healthy yorkies even if I don't breed myself for a few years ...). I also want yorkies that conform well to the AKC standard. How do you, as a breeder, make the decision to breed or not breed certain yorkies? Do you base it on heredity and how well the two you want to breed conform only, or are there other factors? Guess I've asked enough for one thread!!!

YorkieRose · 01-25-2005, 08:49 AM

If 30 plus years carries any weight I will tell you how I decide. I use the standard as a guide. Since I did not understand the exact meaning of each trait in the beginning, I needed to go to shows and see what a breed quality Yorkie looked like...breed and show quality should be the same IMO. Second, the pedigree is vital. When you see CH. it does not always mean top quality..but it is a guideline. It only takes one generation of poor breeding to wreck a 5 gen. pedigree..so when people say their dog is from champion lines..and you see no champions in the first/second generation..then it is a pet pedigree for the most part IMO. Go back far enough and all Yorkies have champion blood somewhere...so I pay little attention to what people say..look at the pedigree, it speaks for itself.
Ask some reputable breeders to look at your male. Rarely, will anyone with a quality bitch give you a pick of the litter..why would they? Champion stud fees are very reasonable..$400/750..$750 (number one Yorkie). Even a very pet quality pup will sell for $800 and up..a nice pet will sell for $1200/1500..so why would a breeder give a very nice breed or show pup as pick of litter...you are looking at perhaps a $3000 &up pup..mighty steep stud fee, right?
The best advise I was ever given and the best advise I give for anyone who has a goal to breed or show a quality pup, is to buy the best bitch you can afford and take that bitch to the best champion you can afford..even champions produce more pets the show pups, so a pet bred to a pet will very rarely produce a show litter..or even a good breed quality litter...but everyones opinion of what is breed and show quality can differ.
Best wishes to you...I had to start somewhere and getting a good breedable bitch was the key to my goal of producing a champion bred by myself from my own line...long, hard road, with many people waiting to rip you off...sorry to say, but true.

myjordash · 01-25-2005, 11:20 AM

Where in South Florida are you?

Bentley'sMom · 01-25-2005, 12:23 PM

Most of the breeders around here also show their dogs. They do not breed until their dog has won a championship. They also only breed their dog to a stud who also has won a championship. This is how they increase the odds that the puppies will adhere to the standard. They usually don't breed for money, but instead do it because they love the breed and strive to make it better. They are always hoping their next litter will have the perfect yorkie who could win best-in-show. If you are interested in showing yorkies, you could take this approach and only breed once your dog has won a championship.

YorkieRose · 01-25-2005, 03:13 PM

I live in Boynton Beach.

lucynfred · 01-25-2005, 03:33 PM

Thanks Bentley's mom and Yorkierose for the advice. There is a show in my area in March, so maybe I can check that out to get a better feel of what a quality show dog looks and acts like. Ought to know what it is I am going to breed, huh?

myjordash · 01-25-2005, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I live in Boynton Beach.

Wish I found this board BEFORE I bought my Yorkie! I am from West Palm
Beach and just purchased in Miami. Do you have a good Vet in the area?

YorkieRose · 01-26-2005, 07:32 AM

I am new to the area...looking myself for a vet...contact me at Primyork@aol.com if I can be of any help..boarding/grooming ec. Pat

myjordash · 01-26-2005, 12:03 PM

OK, did you see my post about the puppy I got a couple of weeks ago? I am supposed to get another one tomorrow. I will email you.

01-24-2005, 07:59 PM	#1
lucynfred Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tuscaloosa Posts: 199	Yorkie stud service To the breeders out there, I am considering breeding, but will not do my own yorkie breeding for about another 2 years. I have Luca Dean, a 5 month yorkie, who falls pretty well within the AKC standard as long as his hair becomes silky. How much is the usual fee for stud service -- I've heard a few hundred or the choice of pick of the litter. I want to raise AKC yorkies and maybe even show yorkies (again, later). Should I start off using Luca Dean as a stud and choose a few "picks of the litter," or approach it some other way? I will be totally new at this and want to raise healthy yorkies (or make sure the dam's owners are raising healthy yorkies even if I don't breed myself for a few years ...). I also want yorkies that conform well to the AKC standard. How do you, as a breeder, make the decision to breed or not breed certain yorkies? Do you base it on heredity and how well the two you want to breed conform only, or are there other factors? Guess I've asked enough for one thread!!!

01-25-2005, 08:49 AM	#2
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	breeding If 30 plus years carries any weight I will tell you how I decide. I use the standard as a guide. Since I did not understand the exact meaning of each trait in the beginning, I needed to go to shows and see what a breed quality Yorkie looked like...breed and show quality should be the same IMO. Second, the pedigree is vital. When you see CH. it does not always mean top quality..but it is a guideline. It only takes one generation of poor breeding to wreck a 5 gen. pedigree..so when people say their dog is from champion lines..and you see no champions in the first/second generation..then it is a pet pedigree for the most part IMO. Go back far enough and all Yorkies have champion blood somewhere...so I pay little attention to what people say..look at the pedigree, it speaks for itself. Ask some reputable breeders to look at your male. Rarely, will anyone with a quality bitch give you a pick of the litter..why would they? Champion stud fees are very reasonable..$400/750..$750 (number one Yorkie). Even a very pet quality pup will sell for $800 and up..a nice pet will sell for $1200/1500..so why would a breeder give a very nice breed or show pup as pick of litter...you are looking at perhaps a $3000 &up pup..mighty steep stud fee, right? The best advise I was ever given and the best advise I give for anyone who has a goal to breed or show a quality pup, is to buy the best bitch you can afford and take that bitch to the best champion you can afford..even champions produce more pets the show pups, so a pet bred to a pet will very rarely produce a show litter..or even a good breed quality litter...but everyones opinion of what is breed and show quality can differ. Best wishes to you...I had to start somewhere and getting a good breedable bitch was the key to my goal of producing a champion bred by myself from my own line...long, hard road, with many people waiting to rip you off...sorry to say, but true.

01-25-2005, 03:13 PM	#5
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	Florida I live in Boynton Beach.

01-26-2005, 07:32 AM	#8
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	vet I am new to the area...looking myself for a vet...contact me at Primyork@aol.com if I can be of any help..boarding/grooming ec. Pat

01-25-2005, 11:20 AM	#3
myjordash YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 288	Where in South Florida are you?

01-25-2005, 12:23 PM	#4
Bentley'sMom YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 299	Most of the breeders around here also show their dogs. They do not breed until their dog has won a championship. They also only breed their dog to a stud who also has won a championship. This is how they increase the odds that the puppies will adhere to the standard. They usually don't breed for money, but instead do it because they love the breed and strive to make it better. They are always hoping their next litter will have the perfect yorkie who could win best-in-show. If you are interested in showing yorkies, you could take this approach and only breed once your dog has won a championship.

01-25-2005, 03:33 PM	#6
lucynfred Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tuscaloosa Posts: 199	Thanks Bentley's mom and Yorkierose for the advice. There is a show in my area in March, so maybe I can check that out to get a better feel of what a quality show dog looks and acts like. Ought to know what it is I am going to breed, huh?

01-26-2005, 12:03 PM	#9
myjordash YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 288	OK, did you see my post about the puppy I got a couple of weeks ago? I am supposed to get another one tomorrow. I will email you.