The Great Debate..."Breeder" or "Backyard Breeder"

[Gazou]

Originally Posted by Marc

How come? You are selling two that didn't meet standards and were therefor sold as pets. The pet owner down the street had her female bred with another male and they had 2 pups....sold as pets not meeting standard. How is it any different? It seems clear to me then that both parties are contributing to the pet population.

I don't have dogs that don't meet the standard . The pet owner down the street will not take time to study pedigrees , have their dogs tested , carefully screen the future owners .

[Lexie Blue]

Originally Posted by Marc

Just so there is no confusion....I'm a girl. I think some may think that Marc is kinda like Mark.....nope....I'm a mom of three, married, canadian.

Also...I am trying to keep up with responding to every post in the thread...If I miss one...let me know, k?

Okay. Thanks for the clarification. Now I have to change your voice in my head and the picture of you.

[bjh]

Originally Posted by Marc

How come? You are selling two that didn't meet standards and were therefor sold as pets. The pet owner down the street had her female bred with another male and they had 2 pups....sold as pets not meeting standard. How is it any different? It seems clear to me then that both parties are contributing to the pet population.

There is a world of difference between a pet quality yorkie from a pet breeder and a pet quality yorkie from a show breeder. If you honestly don't know the difference then visit the 'Show Section' and start looking at pictures of the many beautiful show dogs.

[Mom2BabyNatalie]

Originally Posted by Marc

Ok, so would you say then that because only one is "show quality" that you are contributing to the crowded dog population just like any pet breeder out there is if their pup has a litter of 2 or 3 that they sell as "pets"?

I'd have to agree and say "no" in that, those who breed to standard are (IMO) STRIVING for show quality animals... and NO litter (that I'm aware of) has ever been born with ALL champion quality pups.... if you're LUCKY (even with all the experience in the world) you MIGHT get ONE... or may even just one out of SEVERAL litters... but the ultimate goal is to better the breed and produce animals who conform to AKC standards.

In order to do that, of course there will be those born who fall short of "the standard" (if even just a bit) who, while not having a future in the ring, have been bred still for quality health and temperament - which should be the ICON of "the family pet".

Big difference between these folks and those who "contribute to the crowded dog population" with sickly, neurotic, ill representations of the Yorkshire Terrier breed like we see every single day in any one of a million classified ads for "beautiful Yorkie babies for sale"! ~ ~ Just my penny's worth....

[SladesMommy]

Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie

Big difference between these folks and those who "contribute to the crowded dog population" with sickly, neurotic, ill representations of the Yorkshire Terrier breed like we see every single day in any one of a million classified ads for "beautiful Yorkie babies for sale"! ~ ~ Just my penny's worth.... [/B]

and lets not forget add those folks who breed mixes as well!!!

[EmrldShdwQueen]

Originally Posted by SladesMommy

and lets not forget add those folks who breed mixes as well!!!

[girdygirl]

Thats not nice.

[Mom2BabyNatalie]

Originally Posted by SladesMommy

and lets not forget add those folks who breed mixes as well!!!

LOL, I KNEW it was just a matter of time.... <<grin>> Okay so... on with the topic at hand.......

[Marc]

Originally Posted by RebelBelle

I would think that it would definitely be harder to place unregistered pups. Also I know that in my area you couldn't place them without papers for over about $600.

Where is am from unregistered Yorkies sell much faster than the registered ones due to people wanting a pet and the papers aren't gonig to determine the love for them.

Here papered they are 1500 to 2500...and not papered for about 800.

[EmrldShdwQueen]

Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie

LOL, I KNEW it was just a matter of time.... <<grin>> Okay so... on with the topic at hand.......

Ok actually, let me add and to my

[Marc]

Originally Posted by bjh

Are you saying your Yorkie is not registered? No papers? Were the parents registered or did you buy her with limited registration on a spay and neuter contract......just curious why you called her an 'unregistered beauty'.

That is right. She is not with papers....and a beauty.

No spay or neuter contract.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Gazou

I don't have dogs that don't meet the standard . The pet owner down the street will not take time to study pedigrees , have their dogs tested , carefully screen the future owners .

Not necessarily true. If I am the owner down the street and did my test, screen and study....and had pups that weren't quality for show...and so did the breeder down the road....we are one in the same in terms of selling "pets" and populating the dog world.

[Gazou]

Its just like trying to compare apples with oranges .

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Lexie Blue

Okay. Thanks for the clarification. Now I have to change your voice in my head and the picture of you.

I really am a very nice girl I think, lol. I am usually not a debater....but this topic is of interest to me as well as a learning experience.

Picture me in that way if you can.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by bjh

There is a world of difference between a pet quality yorkie from a pet breeder and a pet quality yorkie from a show breeder. If you honestly don't know the difference then visit the 'Show Section' and start looking at pictures of the many beautiful show dogs.

I am sorry. I would have to dissagree on this one. Pet quality of a breeder and pet quality of an owner with a beautiful yorkie is the same thing. Sorry I have to dissagree.