Thanks i just don't want to step on anyones toes. Because honestly i know nothing about breeding at all and really do not ever plan on doing it. I just know i love my babies and support anyone breeding to make them healthier :). And not to mention i have the foot in the mouth syndrom lol. I know i can say things sometimes then turn around and think oh crap i shouldn't have said that or said it like that :eek: . No worries i wasn't going to go off the thread because of anyone here. I was going to get off because of myself i tend to run at the mouth sometimes :eek: .

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Mary

So true and it makes me so :mad: and also upsets me very much that this happens:( I just can't even think about it or it makes me cry:( Out of those puppies that were rescued from Mitchell well some that were bought prior had cranial malformation :cry8:

Well then you have more in common w/ some breeders (like me) than you think then!:p Toes are often stepped on here...then you just back off, taking a running start and stomp on the whole darn foot in some instances...lol.

From what i have read and learned so far the poorer bred the worse health problems the poor little things have :( So i am all for stoping that completely! Good luck with the continuing success it sounds like you are doing a wonderful job:)


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Mary[/QUOTE]

That's the point we are trying to make! Thank you for your compliments and I try to do the best I can and try and educate but sometimes it gets frustrating when I hear well it's my god given right to do whatever the heck I want to do UGH! Just because you go kill someone doesn't make it right in fact you will probably get a life sentence or even a death sentence. So breeding without doing research and studying pedigrees and doing health testing yeah it's your right not to do it but you are also taking the risk of giving a puppy a death sentence. Mary I didn't mean to take your positive post to vent LOL...again I appreciate your very nice comments and yes I do spay and neuter before a puppy leaves my home :)

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Thanks i needed a good laugh to start my day off :p


BTW those out there just cranking the pups out for the money need to think about how they would like to be done that way. Would they like to lay tied to a bed and made to crank out babies every so many months until they are no longer able to do so? And then they are either put down or sent somewhere else to live because they are no longer useful. I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!! Sorry i get a little passionate about some things. I just think if the puppy millers where made to crank out babies they would think twice about what they are doing to these poor animals:mad:


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Mary

That's the point we are trying to make! Thank you for your compliments and I try to do the best I can and try and educate but sometimes it gets frustrating when I hear well it's my god given right to do whatever the heck I want to do UGH! Just because you go kill someone doesn't make it right in fact you will probably get a life sentence or even a death sentence. So breeding without doing research and studying pedigrees and doing health testing yeah it's your right not to do it but you are also taking the risk of giving a puppy a death sentence. Mary I didn't mean to take your positive post to vent LOL...again I appreciate your very nice comments and yes I do spay and neuter before a puppy leaves my home :)

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers[/QUOTE]

Yeah i kind of reread and realized that sorry :eek: See i told ya i have the foot in the mouth syndrome lol

Take my post to vent it is fine with me at least you are getting the word out and your point accross :)

Yeah i kind of reread and realized that sorry :eek: See i told ya i have the foot in the mouth syndrome lol

Take my post to vent it is fine with me at least you are getting the word out and your point accross :)[/QUOTE]

It wasn't your foot I was referring too LOL!! :) Most on here know how I feel LOL but I just sometimes get irritated lol and vent :)
Thanks for understanding!

Donna

It wasn't your foot I was referring too LOL!! :) Most on here know how I feel LOL but I just sometimes get irritated lol and vent :)
Thanks for understanding!

Donna[/QUOTE]

Okay afraid to ask what you were referring to LOL!!!!

But doesn't it fell good to get it all out :) Sometimes it just feels great to vent ;)

Mary

Okay afraid to ask what you were referring to LOL!!!!

But doesn't it fell good to get it all out :) Sometimes it just feels great to vent ;)

Mary[/QUOTE]

Just to posters before this page lol

You guys all make awesome points...but I just wanted to point out that although I do breed for pets, my puppies are excellent quality. But, for example, 3 out of my 5 females were bought with a contract that ALL puppies sold from them must be on limited registration, or a spay/neuter contract, or both. And there are several people on here who wouldn't have their babies without a pet breeder. I just feel that I'm completely separate from someone who does this all for money, or who is a volume breeder. I test all my dogs, they're all healthy, none of my pups have issues, and I offer a 1 year health guarantee (and I can tell you right now if something came up 4 years after I sold a pup I would probably still give them their money back). I too have a clause in my contract that states ALL puppies MUST be returned to me for a refund of all or part of the original purchase price. Like I said, all of my dogs are within the standard as far as weight and most other qualities as well. One might have a longer nose or bigger ears than the other, but all have nice toplines, a good earset, and have come back healthy in all tests. You can put whatever label you want on me, but I just don't feel I'm in the same class as a puppy mill or BYB who does it all for money. JMHO and I completely respect everyone's views. :)

Just to posters before this page lol[/QUOTE]

LOL

If you do it responsibly then I have no issues. I just prefer you breed for show quality and not pet quality if that makes sense...that doesn't mean you have to show it's just that if it's worthy of an AKC championship then it's worthy to breed and a good representation of the breed. I only stated what I did when someone said it was their god given right to do whatever they want, that kinda irritated me LOL...From what I see you are not what I'd consider a byb but a hobby breeder and care for your dogs.

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

I have that in my co ntract. The only problem is that sometimes the breeder doesn't know until it is too late. I have been trying to find out where my first girl is for over a year and if I do, I am going to Virginia and repo her. It's been over a year and the buyer last said she was getting a divorce, going to school and no computer. phone calls go unanswered. I am almost to the point of going to her last known address and tracking her down. She was showing her in UKC but i don't know how that turned out either and she is a long time member here who hasn't been on for ages and ages. I will re-po my puppies in a heartbeat!!!!!!!!!!!Problem is finding out where they are before it is too late.

Oh Dee i am so sorry that is just horrible :( I hope you find her soon that is way to long for her to not have contacted you:mad:. If i were you that is where i would start at with her last known address and go from there. If there is anything i can do to help please let me know. I am sure there are others on here willing to help as well. Maybe even someone from Virginia that might be able to find out where she is for you.

[QUOTE=maxs_momma;1786699]Oh Dee i am so sorry that is just horrible :( I hope you find her soon that is way to long for her to not have contacted you:mad:. If i were you that is where i would start at with her last known address and go from there. If there is anything i can do to help please let me know. I am sure there are others on here willing to help as well. Maybe even someone from Virginia that might be able to find out where she is for you.



Believe me, I have done everything I know to do. I googled until my fingers were almost raw. I finally did get thru to her answering machine and left a message. That was january 1st.

[quote=Sugar's Mom;1786782]What!?!:eek: Jan. 1st and she still hasn't gotten back to you :mad: :(.aybe someone in Virginia can find her in a local listing maybe? Did you try the msn white pages that is how i have found alot of people i was looking for. Here is the link just in case you haven't tried it yet http://msn.intelius.com/. Positive vibes being sent your way that you find her very soon.

You are absolutely right. With the law of supply and demand that comes with that #2 ranking (I think it's actually #1 now) come some other disturbing statistics:

* Yorkies are thirty-six times more likely to have a liver shunt than all other breeds combined according to the study done by Dr. Tobias at the University of Tennessee

* Yorkies are ranked #4 in cases of luxating patellas by the Orthopedic Foundation of America

With the AKC estimating that 70% of purebred dogs come from backyard breeders, not puppymills, the responsibility of producing the majority of those genetically flawed dogs must lie with the backyard breeders.

I just read the thread from the beginning and I am anxious to hear what happened at the vet and to see the new hair cuts. I Hope you can post pictures and that your dogs got a clean bill of health. Welcome to YT.

Just letting everyone know that they are still at the vet and getting groomed so I don't know much yet. They aloow drop offs, so I drop them off there and when they are through they call me to come and pickup!

We are all anxiously waiting.

[quote=maxs_momma;1786817]I have all the info she supplied when she bought the dog. She kept in touch for a long time and I have been trying to reach her because my girl is old enough to breed and I am supposed to get a female from her first breeding. She had an awesome pedigree.

[quote=Sugar's Mom;1787188]Well i truely hope things work out for you. I couldn't imagine if i had babies and lost touch for that long i would probably go nuts :eek:

I agree. When money is involved I think many forget what kind of puppies they're raising. I don't want to say anymore because it's been said and chances are people will do EXACTLY what they want to do no matter what we say. It's sad and I feel bad for the yorkies but there's many out there thinking the same way...it's all about the $$$$$

[quote=Sugar's Mom;1787188]So do you think she still has the dog and is avoiding you because she owes you a dog???
And leaving one message won't do anything. You need to become a nuisance. Leave a message every day - every other day....I wouldn't let it go.

[quote=mojo;1788345]I agree BECOME A NUISANCE hehe

Thank you, I wasn't referring to you specifically...just the general "vibe" of the thread lol. ;) And I absolutely DO NOT think that everyone should be allowed to breed. It does irritate me when people just out of the blue decide they want to breed their pet and have no idea what they're doing. That's irresponsible and puts all of us who actually work so hard to get where we get in a bad position.

I really hope that you did bring those babies in. Yorkies are not outdoor dogs.
as for making a little extra money. hun it could go either way. you may pay out more then you make.
but I dont see any problems with saying making a little extra money. Im sorry but there are breeders out there breeding for this same thing. most of them would not even breed if they didnt make some thing. and it just erks me when I see people saying Oh My Gosh make extra money when thats most likely what they are doing. If there was no money in it then we wouldnt have as many people breeding as we do today.

How did the vet and grooming go???? Update and pics please:D

Hopefully the vet was a good experiance for them.:)

I'm sorry, but I have a HUGE issue with anyone who says, "I started breeding to make extra money." If somewhere in the mix of it all you manage to be in the green when it's all said and done, that's a bonus, but when your primary goal in what you are doing is just for income, that's WRONG.:mad: :thumbdown