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Old 02-20-2008, 08:19 AM   #151
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Welcome to YT. I hope you will continue to come on YT as there are a lot of information here. 99% of us here treat our yorkies like our own family member hence we were pretty shock when it comes to hearing someone having an outside dog. Its a good thing you brought them in. I am sure they prefer to be inside rather than outside as they love to be around human. Looking forward to seeing the pictures of your little ones.
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At least where weight is concerned...

I hope that your pooches get a good report w/ the vet.
That's what I meant, the rest is yet to be seen...
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That's what I meant, the rest is yet to be seen...
I just noticed yoru avatar. That picture is so cute! I love licky pictures!
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i am not going to say a whole lot in case this person is one of "those' but i would never buy from anyone that kept their dogs outside if I know it and if they are housed out with no heat or cooling, i would probably report them to animal abuse.
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I just noticed yoru avatar. That picture is so cute! I love licky pictures!
haha, thank you! That's Tucker, my new little stud. He's my little man...
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Once again thanks! I finally finished all their baths last night and boy was that a job! They enjoyed it so much!!!! They are going for their first vet visit tomorrow and getting groomed!!! I have taken pictures but have to get them developed first so I can scan them on!!! Can't wait until you guys can see them! They haven't been bred that much at all! My oldest Fancy, is 3 and been bred twice...the other two are sisters and they have been bred only once each. My male is 6lbs. and my females are 6lbs and 7 lbs. They are precious.
I'm looking forward to seeing their pictures. They sound adorable. Fancy is a cute name too.
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Ughh that bothers me so much... Keeping your little dogs inside and keeping your big dogs outside in a kennel or even worse chained to a tree ALL THE TIME.
There are YT members that do this and it bugs me so much. Why isnt the big dog deserving of coming inside? I have big and little and my shepherd is completly inside too. Whats the point of even having the dog if your not going to keep them inside?
My golden retriever and shepherd are BOTH outside..Not tied up, but they have a big dog run, everyday, they get 1/2 hour to run in the back yard(fenced in) with us playing with them, throwing their ball and giving them a lot of attention..they are NOT tied up..we love our big dogs as much as our little dogs, and actually, they probably get more one on one time with us than the little dogs do..
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First, I read this whole thread and I'm glad to see you brought them inside...I hope you really did bring them inside and you will consider getting them fixed and retiring them.

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One thing that strikes me hypocritical, however, is how so many (not all but many) breeders on here sell entire litters of puppies. What is the purpose of that breeding if you sell them all at 12 weeks? I would think $$$$$. Please tell me why else would a breeder sell an entire litter.
Second, I saw this and i had to respond. I'm kind of confused. Why shouldn't breeders be selling their entire litters? If they keep dogs from every litter, their lives will become so hectic with taking care of their dogs that they won't be able to put in the endless hours needed for their breeding program.

When else should they be selling them? According to the YTCA, a reputable breeder sells no earlier than 12 weeks (I don't really agree with that, but that's what it says). 12 weeks is the age because that's when they've had all of their shots, that's when they're starting to be housebroken, and that's when they've learned all the social skills they need.

Good breeders are NOT in it for the $$$$, because there isn't really any $$$$. I'm not a breeder, and I have no intention on becoming a breeder, but I know a tiny bit about it from being on this forum, and just one litter costs a crap load of money. If the stud doesn't belong to the breeder, they need to pay stud fees. If it does, they need to pay to have ALL kinds of tests done on BOTH dogs (collapsing trachea, luxating pattella, liver shunt, etc.), they need to pay to take their bitch in for countless check ups while she is pregnant -- including x-rays/ultra sounds. They need to pay for bedding so that the bitch can nest. When the puppies are going to be born, the breeder needs to be ready to pay for a possible c-section (which I've heard can be about $1000). After they're born, the breeder needs to pay for the first vet visit (including the removal of dew claws and tail docking) and to get the female checked out. The breeder THEN, if they are keeping them until 12 weeks, needs to pay for 3 rounds of shots for on average about 6 puppies. and these are the costs when everything goes perfectly. What about when a sick puppy is born? When the mother can't deliver? When anything that can go wrong WILL go wrong? Not to mention, if the breeders have regular jobs, they need to take off of work in the days leading up to the delivery, and the days after.

When you put together all of this, it hardly seems fair to condemn breeders for selling their puppies. AND even if they do sell every puppy, more than likely they won't even break even with the amount they spent to bring the puppies into the world.
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First, I read this whole thread and I'm glad to see you brought them inside...I hope you really did bring them inside and you will consider getting them fixed and retiring them.



Second, I saw this and i had to respond. I'm kind of confused. Why shouldn't breeders be selling their entire litters? If they keep dogs from every litter, their lives will become so hectic with taking care of their dogs that they won't be able to put in the endless hours needed for their breeding program.

When else should they be selling them? According to the YTCA, a reputable breeder sells no earlier than 12 weeks (I don't really agree with that, but that's what it says). 12 weeks is the age because that's when they've had all of their shots, that's when they're starting to be housebroken, and that's when they've learned all the social skills they need.

Good breeders are NOT in it for the $$$$, because there isn't really any $$$$. I'm not a breeder, and I have no intention on becoming a breeder, but I know a tiny bit about it from being on this forum, and just one litter costs a crap load of money. If the stud doesn't belong to the breeder, they need to pay stud fees. If it does, they need to pay to have ALL kinds of tests done on BOTH dogs (collapsing trachea, luxating pattella, liver shunt, etc.), they need to pay to take their bitch in for countless check ups while she is pregnant -- including x-rays/ultra sounds. They need to pay for bedding so that the bitch can nest. When the puppies are going to be born, the breeder needs to be ready to pay for a possible c-section (which I've heard can be about $1000). After they're born, the breeder needs to pay for the first vet visit (including the removal of dew claws and tail docking) and to get the female checked out. The breeder THEN, if they are keeping them until 12 weeks, needs to pay for 3 rounds of shots for on average about 6 puppies. and these are the costs when everything goes perfectly. What about when a sick puppy is born? When the mother can't deliver? When anything that can go wrong WILL go wrong? Not to mention, if the breeders have regular jobs, they need to take off of work in the days leading up to the delivery, and the days after.

When you put together all of this, it hardly seems fair to condemn breeders for selling their puppies. AND even if they do sell every puppy, more than likely they won't even break even with the amount they spent to bring the puppies into the world.
As usual Megan, you are too grown up for your age.. but, actually, they're not done with their shots at 12 weeks..infact, here, they have to have 4 sets of shots, which I got Ginger at 11 weeks, and she still had to have 3 more sets of shots...
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As usual Megan, you are too grown up for your age.. but, actually, they're not done with their shots at 12 weeks..infact, here, they have to have 4 sets of shots, which I got Ginger at 11 weeks, and she still had to have 3 more sets of shots...
It all depends on the breeder. There is no "set time" when pups get their shots...age wise that is. Not all breeders follow the same universal schedule for vaccinations.
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It all depends on the breeder. There is no "set time" when pups get their shots...age wise that is. Not all breeders follow the same universal schedule for vaccinations.
Here, the vets do them every 2 weeks, mine had one set of shots out of 4 when I got her.
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i fail to see what is hypocritical about a breeder selling the entire litter. If I kept all of mine, I would have to build ME a kennel and let the dogs have the entire house and not just my living room.
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i fail to see what is hypocritical about a breeder selling the entire litter. If I kept all of mine, I would have to build ME a kennel and let the dogs have the entire house and not just my living room.
LOL Dee thanks for the good laugh the thing is i know how you are with your babies and you would put yourself in the kennel and give them the house
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i fail to see what is hypocritical about a breeder selling the entire litter. If I kept all of mine, I would have to build ME a kennel and let the dogs have the entire house and not just my living room.
I have to agree with you on that one...if all the breeders kept at least one puppy out of each litter, you would have to literally let the house go to the dogs...
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