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GreenwoodBiewer 01-19-2009 08:26 PM
I couldn't agree more. It is a sorry site to see some of the dogs out there that people are selling as Biewers AND with full breeding rights. I feel sorry for the people that pay the kind of $$ they are paying for these dogs that, although I'm sure would make a wonderful family pet, have NO business being bred. It hurts me to the core that some "breeders" sell every puppy they churn out with full rights.. but.. people are buying these dogs. I don't understand it... well, I guess I understand it, just not happy about it.

To me, these are not people looking long term at what is best for this breed, but merely a short term "get while the gettin' is good" attitude. Very upsetting.

Diana :animal-pa

JeanieK 01-20-2009 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Pruett (Post 2375579)
That's interesting, because if breed two what the Germans call splitters (carriers) together you don't get a Biewer. You don't even get all Biewer's when you breed a full Biewer to a splitter.
I find that statement because the Biewer history states that the Tri colored Biewer yorkshire Terrier came from mating Two traditional colored yorkshire terriers.

JeanieK 01-20-2009 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2428076)
I find that statement because the Biewer history states that the Tri colored Biewer yorkshire Terrier came from mating Two traditional colored yorkshire terriers.
That wras supposed to say I find that statement interesting because...........

JeanieK 01-20-2009 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by princesspeach (Post 2383208)
But May I add I am having a hard time trying to figure out if mine is a reg yorkie or a parti Any sug?It's my first time owning a yorkie.
If you had a parti it would be three colors. Black, white, tan. But you could have a carrier and not know it. the two in my avatar are parti colored.

Pruett 01-20-2009 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2428076)
I find that statement because the Biewer history states that the Tri colored Biewer yorkshire Terrier came from mating Two traditional colored yorkshire terriers.
Who says the history is correct? We have got documentation on various breeders in Germany that have forged registrations, and mixed Maltese with yorkies.
I can tell you from my experience in life and that is "people lie" science doesn't.

How much do you think a parti Yorkie is going to be worth when AKC accepts the Biewer Terrier?

yorkiekist 01-20-2009 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pruett (Post 2428708)
Who says the history is correct? We have got documentation on various breeders in Germany that have forged registrations, and mixed Maltese with yorkies.
I can tell you from my experience in life and that is "people lie" science doesn't.

How much do you think a parti Yorkie is going to be worth when AKC accepts the Biewer Terrier?
:thumbup:LOL

Pruett 01-20-2009 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 2426031)
I'm sad to see 12 pages of Biewers on Puppyfind.
I'm sad to hear that people are being given advice to buy 15 lb bred bitches.:cry8:

GreenwoodBiewer 01-20-2009 01:40 PM
Gayle, we don't always agree but I'm 100 % with you on this one! Both dogs AND people are being taken advantage of in this situation.

-Diana :animal-pa

JeanieK 01-20-2009 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Pruett (Post 2428708)
Who says the history is correct? We have got documentation on various breeders in Germany that have forged registrations, and mixed Maltese with yorkies.
I can tell you from my experience in life and that is "people lie" science doesn't.

How much do you think a parti Yorkie is going to be worth when AKC accepts the Biewer Terrier?
So the entire story about Mr and Mrs Biewer and the Biewer Yorkshire Terrier a la Pon Pon is one big lie?

I don't know how much the parti is going to be worth IF the AKC accepts the Biewer. That is not a concern of mine. And if the Biewer is a separate breed from the yorkie, I would not see that it would have any effect on the parti at all.

JeanieK 01-20-2009 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2428718)
:thumbup:LOL
That is pretty amusing, kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. There are Biewers that were born of two yorkshire Terriers, so the fact that one line doesn't show Yorkshire Terrier in it's DNA, only proves that one is a fraud.

Pruett 01-20-2009 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2428967)
That is pretty amusing, kind of like the pot calling the kettle black. There are Biewers that were born of two yorkshire Terriers, so the fact that one line doesn't show Yorkshire Terrier in it's DNA, only proves that one is a fraud.
Who said it didn't show Yorkshire Terrier?

Would you be willing to test your Parti's?

JeanieK 01-20-2009 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pruett (Post 2429065)
Who said it didn't show Yorkshire Terrier?

Would you be willing to test your Parti's?
Those who claim that the Biewers are a separate breed from yorkshire Terriers and had them DNA'd to prove it. that is who said.

Not sure what you want me to have mine tested for. They came from the line that was DNA'd by the AKC. They are descendents of the first registered parti color yorkie who was sired by Champion Nikko's Rolls Royce Ashely.

I am not afraid to have mine tested but not sure what information you would get except that they are who the records say they are.

Now I challenge you to back up any statments you make about the parti colored yorkshire Terriers.

What information do you have? Where did you get the information? has that information been substantiated or is it just hearsay? Have you researched this topic at all?

Prove to me that the parti gene does did not exist in the original yorkshire terrier and that no show breeder has ever had a parti colored puppy.

Or just come up with anything that shows that it is more likely than not that the above mentioned are not true.

BamaFan121s 01-20-2009 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2429285)
Not sure what you want me to have mine tested for. They came from the line that was DNA'd by the AKC. They are descendents of the first registered parti color yorkie who was sired by Champion Nikko's Rolls Royce Ashely.
It's irrelevant in any case Jeanie. If your dogs ARE pure Yorkie, and I have no reason to believe otherwise nor do I have any vested interest in it, the test would be irrelevant. It was not designed for purebred dogs nor would the results from testing a purebred dog be accurate or valid.

GreenwoodBiewer 01-20-2009 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2429484)
It's irrelevant in any case Jeanie. If your dogs ARE pure Yorkie, and I have no reason to believe otherwise nor do I have any vested interest in it, the test would be irrelevant. It was not designed for purebred dogs nor would the results from testing a purebred dog be accurate or valid.

OOOPS... you better duck!! :animal37

BamaFan121s 01-20-2009 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer (Post 2429530)
OOOPS... you better duck!! :animal37
LOL...I'm not ducking for anyone. ;) It's the information the company themselves give you. I daresay I hold more stock in that, the company that developed it, than in someone using it as to back their own claims and justify what their own motives. It's not a collection of information regarding the subject "inside information" to just a select few.:rolleyes: To tell you the truth, the whole bit and walking on eggshells around the subject is getting just a bit old for my taste.


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