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EmrldShdwQueen 12-31-2007 03:51 PM
Reputable Parti Breeders?
 
Does anyone know of any reputable Parti Yorkie breeders?

lisatodd 12-31-2007 03:54 PM
no one reptuable would intentially breed parti since it would be against the ytca code of ethics

EmrldShdwQueen 12-31-2007 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lisatodd (Post 1638021)
no one reptuable would intentially breed parti since it would be against the ytca code of ethics
gotcha

Suzy 12-31-2007 04:03 PM
Scrapindee breeds Biewers, as do several others on here that I just can't think of their names right now. Is that what you're looking for?

Lovin3Yorkies 12-31-2007 04:17 PM
VA breeder
 
Hi, Sue breeds Partis. Her YT user ID is "Pinehaven" Good luck in your search!:)

Pam

EmrldShdwQueen 12-31-2007 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Suzy (Post 1638060)
Scrapindee breeds Biewers, as do several others on here that I just can't think of their names right now. Is that what you're looking for?
Well...maybe...I really don't know which one I want yet...I've been looking at both for a long time.

TammyJM 12-31-2007 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lisatodd (Post 1638021)
no one reptuable would intentially breed parti since it would be against the ytca code of ethics
WOW....that's a bold statement! I am a future parti breeder and I don't know you from Adam and you are saying that I am not reputable. Did you think such hateful thoughts back when you were considering buying a parti yourself? If someone does not like the fact that I adore the parti and plan to breed this color,then that is their right to feel that way. However,to say that I and the other parti breeders that I have become friends with are not reputable, is wrong! Anyone can look through my posts and see how much I adore my gorgeous Livi and see that I will love her babies just as much.

For the OP, feel free to PM me....I can give you some names of other parti breeders. :)

Tammy

my2boyz 12-31-2007 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EmrldShdwQueen (Post 1638139)
Well...maybe...I really don't know which one I want yet...I've been looking at both for a long time.
Please do your research...there are differences between the two. Registration is totally different and more complicated with the Biewer...Parti's are AKC but considered a Yorkie with a color fault.

littlewhip 12-31-2007 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 1638273)
Please do your research...there are differences between the two. Registration is totally different and more complicated with the Biewer...Parti's are AKC but considered a Yorkie with a color fault.
wow, I always thought they were the same, i think they are so pretty, learned something new again from yt;) thanks for the info:)

tegamom1 12-31-2007 07:04 PM
Everyone has the right to breed whatever they want...be it parti 's or any other off color. It doesn't make them disreputable, but not within the guidelines of AKC or the YTCA standard. My only hope is that whoever is breeding dogs does it correctly and I'm talking not about color.... but health and welfare.

EmrldShdwQueen 12-31-2007 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 1638273)
Please do your research...there are differences between the two. Registration is totally different and more complicated with the Biewer...Parti's are AKC but considered a Yorkie with a color fault.
Oh believe me, I KNOW the differences...I've done research for over a year now on both...now I'm just trying to find breeders

daisy mae06 12-31-2007 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 1638152)
WOW....that's a bold statement! I am a future parti breeder and I don't know you from Adam and you are saying that I am not reputable. Did you think such hateful thoughts back when you were considering buying a parti yourself? If someone does not like the fact that I adore the parti and plan to breed this color,then that is their right to feel that way. However,to say that I and the other parti breeders that I have become friends with are not reputable, is wrong! Anyone can look through my posts and see how much I adore my gorgeous Livi and see that I will love her babies just as much.

For the OP, feel free to PM me....I can give you some names of other parti breeders. :)

Tammy
:thumbup: :thumbup: very well said I love JeanieK
I don't
know any others.



Is YTCA GOD?

Luckyone 12-31-2007 07:15 PM
Biewers are typically German registered aren't they?

my2boyz 12-31-2007 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckyone (Post 1638602)
Biewers are typically German registered aren't they?
Yes, but there are some U.S. Biewer registries too. Some breeders dual register theirs. The Biewers are beautiful and their coat is different than a Yorkie, their temperment is a little different also.

TammyJM 12-31-2007 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckyone (Post 1638602)
Biewers are typically German registered aren't they?
Yes, and the parti colored Yorkie can be registered with AKC.

Tammy

Luckyone 12-31-2007 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 1638629)
Yes, but there are some U.S. Biewer registries too. Some breeders dual register theirs. The Biewers are beautiful and their coat is different than a Yorkie, their temperment is a little different also.
Are the Biewers considered a different breed than the yorkies? (I understand the partis are a color variant) And how is their coat and temperament different?

JeanieK 12-31-2007 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EmrldShdwQueen (Post 1638013)
Does anyone know of any reputable Parti Yorkie breeders?
I am a parti breeder. I'm sure not everyone considers breed partis as reputable but then I don't consider all traditional breeders to be reputable either.

Brooklynn 12-31-2007 07:38 PM
Parti's may be considered a yorkie but it's a color fault. Just with any other fault a yorkie has, a breeder dedicated to the breed would try and breed any fault out whether it be "parti" or a bad bite ect....I wasn't going to comment but why would anyone reputable want to breed a known fault? To better the breed is to breed out the faults and always breed for health! JMHO

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

my2boyz 12-31-2007 07:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckyone (Post 1638669)
Are the Biewers considered a different breed than the yorkies? (I understand the partis are a color variant) And how is their coat and temperament different?
The Biewer is accepted as it's own breed in Germany but not (yet) in the U.S. The Biewers I have seen, and own, have a thicker coat and you can't describe it...you have to feel it. Their temperment is more laid back and quiet.

BamaFan121s 12-31-2007 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 1638670)
I don't consider all traditional breeders to be reputable either.
This is very true.:(

Brooklynn 12-31-2007 07:46 PM
I'm gonna keep my mouth shut! Sitting on my hands gets harder and harder LOL

Donna

JeanieK 12-31-2007 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by littlewhip (Post 1638490)
wow, I always thought they were the same, i think they are so pretty, learned something new again from yt;) thanks for the info:)

Basically they are the same dog started the same way. Two traditional colored yorkies produced a parti colored pup.

The Biewers are now a breed of their own and they have their own standards. The parti breeders in America are working towards doing the same thing. YTCA doesn't like to admit that the partis even exist, but they haven't heard or seen the last of us. LOL

TammyJM 12-31-2007 07:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1638683)
Parti's may be considered a yorkie but it's a color fault. Just with any other fault a yorkie has, a breeder dedicated to the breed would try and breed any fault out whether it be "parti" or a bad bite ect....I wasn't going to comment but why would anyone reputable want to breed a known fault? To better the breed is to breed out the faults and always breed for health! JMHO

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers
It's a fault based on what YTCA and the show world have decided. The standard that is so preached at us that have chosen to breed "off colors", was created by a group of people.....this standard does not change genetics. You do realize that this "standard" has changed throughout the years,right?? Why was that okay then but not now? Why is okay that the Yorkie is nothing like how the breed originated....because a group have now defined what THEY say the Yorkie should be?

I am a future breeder of the parti color and I will always be a person that is reputable. I, however, do not see this color as a fault....I see it as genetics at it's finest.

Tammy

daisy mae06 12-31-2007 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 1638721)
It's a fault based on what YTCA and the show world have decided. The standard that is so preached at us that have chosen to breed "off colors", was created by a group of people.....this standard does not change genetics. You do realize that this "standard" has changed throughout the years,right?? Why was that okay then but not now? Why is okay that the Yorkie is nothing like how the breed originated....because a group have now defined what THEY say the Yorkie should be?

I am a future breeder of the parti color and I will always be a person that is reputable. I, however, do not see this color as a fault....I see it as genetics at it's finest.

Tammy
Great Post Tammy. I Applaud you:bravo:

Brooklynn 12-31-2007 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 1638721)
It's a fault based on what YTCA and the show world have decided. The standard that is so preached at us that have chosen to breed "off colors", was created by a group of people.....this standard does not change genetics. You do realize that this "standard" has changed throughout the years,right?? Why was that okay then but not now? Why is okay that the Yorkie is nothing like how the breed originated....because a group have now defined what THEY say the Yorkie should be?

I am a future breeder of the parti color and I will always be a person that is reputable. I, however, do not see this color as a fault....I see it as genetics at it's finest.

Tammy
Good Luck! I'm not going to argue with you or anyone. I adhere to the code of conduct and code of ethics set forth by the YTCA and will continue to do so and will defend my beliefs as you do....agreed to disagree....I see it as a fault and in the show world it is a fault so when an opinion is asked for I will give it, like it or not :)
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

daisy mae06 12-31-2007 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 1638718)
Basically they are the same dog started the same way. Two traditional colored yorkies produced a parti colored pup.

The Biewers are now a breed of their own and they have their own standards. The parti breeders in America are working towards doing the same thing. YTCA doesn't like to admit that the partis even exist, but they haven't heard or seen the last of us. LOL
Very True Jeanie :)
Why do we care what 500 people say anyway ;)
YTCA ?? God???

LOL Sorry Tipsy but truthful

JeanieK 12-31-2007 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tegamom1 (Post 1638564)
Everyone has the right to breed whatever they want...be it parti 's or any other off color. It doesn't make them disreputable, but not within the guidelines of AKC or the YTCA standard. My only hope is that whoever is breeding dogs does it correctly and I'm talking not about color.... but health and welfare.
Thank You. We parti breeders ae only tryhing to establish the partis as a breed of their own. They are Accepted by the AKC just not by the YTCA.

JeanieK 12-31-2007 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luckyone (Post 1638669)
Are the Biewers considered a different breed than the yorkies? (I understand the partis are a color variant) And how is their coat and temperament different?

The origins of the Biewer are the same as the origins of the parti. They both started from two traditional colored yorkies. the Germans developed the biewers into a breed of their own and set standards. The parti breeders are working in that same direction.

I am not sure on this statement, but I believe the only way you can get a registered Biewer is to breed 2 registered Biewers. I don't beieve you can register them as Biewers if they are a product of two yorkies. But I do not know that for a fact.

BamaFan121s 12-31-2007 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 1638718)
The Biewers are now a breed of their own and they have their own standards. The parti breeders in America are working towards doing the same thing. YTCA doesn't like to admit that the partis even exist, but they haven't heard or seen the last of us. LOL
I don't think Biewers are a breed of their own...yet...we'll see what time will bring with them...? JeanieK, I know that you have been working w/ partis for a while now and I know that you have put alot of time and effort into what you are doing. I would be interested in your opinion of a few things I'm curious about in regards to the partis: Are parti breeders trying to work to get them recognized as a separate breed, or just a separate color variation? AKC already recognizes the color though....is the goal to have them accepted in shows? Are they working to get a set 'parti standard?' What is the overall goal of parti breeders and is it a combined, joint effort, or are parti breeders stiving to acheive their own goals individually?
I guess what I'm saying is, when it is stated that "parti breeders are working to get them accpeted," what are the specific goals there?:)

JeanieK 12-31-2007 08:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1638683)
Parti's may be considered a yorkie but it's a color fault. Just with any other fault a yorkie has, a breeder dedicated to the breed would try and breed any fault out whether it be "parti" or a bad bite ect....I wasn't going to comment but why would anyone reputable want to breed a known fault? To better the breed is to breed out the faults and always breed for health! JMHO

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

It is a color fault for a "yorkie" but it is not a color fault for a "parti". Parti breeders do not want to show them as yorkies. We want them to have thier own place in the ring.


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