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Old 12-16-2008, 05:27 PM   #46
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How big was your baby when you got her? I went to several breeders that tried to tell me they had pups that where only going to be 5 to 6 lbs and when I got there they pups where already 3 and 4 lbs at 10wk so I told them what I thought but they still swore they would only be 5 to 6 lbs but I knew better but unfortunatly alot of newbies would belive it.
I can't really remember, she's almost 6 now, but, I'm thinking she was bewtween 1 1/2 and 2 lbs when I got her one day shy of 7 weeks.
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:29 PM   #47
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well as for contact I wasnt clear they dont actually have touch contact but the area they run is visited by wild animals
So glad you cleared that up. I'd typed out a lengthy response to address some of your comments/insults, but I really think your posts speak for themselves, so there's really no point.

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Old 12-16-2008, 05:33 PM   #48
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I'm not doing any bashing but I do have a question or a statement however you want to look at it.
I just went to your site to look at your dogs and granted I only seen two breeds, poodle and yorkie I couldn't help but wonder.
Why don't you have a signal picture of an adult listed so that people can see what your dogs look like? You state that you share this site with others which is fine and dandy but, you could at least post pictures of your dogs as an example. I know myself and many others (not all show breeders) are proud of our Yorkies or what ever breed we raise and have pictures of the parents for all to see.
I know when I was looking to get my first Yorkie it was important for me to at least see pictures of the adults from the people I was talking to or interested in. While my Yorkies aren't all done up in bows and frills and there are no show pictures on my site I do have pictures of all of them (puppies and adults) so that people can see the type of Yorkies I have.
Also there are no names of other owners or even mention of any bloodlines on your site. Personally I want to know what bloodlines are there even if they aren't champion lines. You will find my pedigrees on my site by clicking on the dogs picture. This isn't done to show off but so that people know what is behind my Yorkies. I feel that anyone wanting to adopt one of my babies should have the right to be able to check the lines that are there and possibly talk with other breeders or owners who have the same lines.
I don't think that the prices that you get for your babies is what some of the people on here have an issue with...
What I am hearing (reading) is that some of your adopters have had health issues with their puppies.
As for all dogs getting mites or cocidia I don't agree with you at all, sure they can get these things but, not all have them.
If that were the case then I would have to concider myself the perfect home above all others (which I don't believe for one minute either) for my Yorkies because I have never had one of my Yorkies adult or puppy get ear mites. And as for cocidia I can honestly state and back it up with reports from my vet that I have only had this happen once in all the time I have had Yorkies.
Yes these problems can be cured this is true, but they can also be prevented in the first place.
You seem to be directing all of your statements at show breeders when in fact the people that have posted here haven't said once that they show or that they intend to show. They have even gone so far as to say they love thier puppies... they just weren't happy with the fact that the puppies they got from you or from your site had health issues.
I breed Yorkies occassionally and I also dabble in showing a couple of my Yorkies. Does that make me a show breeder? I don't think so, also I don't think that my prices are outragous concidering the time and effort I put into making sure that I have healthy happy well adjusted babies.
Personally I don't think you are being fair in your statements and you are doing the exact same thing that you are accusing others of doing... BASHING!
The only difference is that you are targeting everyone that shows a Yorkie or that has prices higher than yours.
If and mind you I am only saying IF you are raising Yorkies or any other breed just so that everyone can afford one then you are in it for the wrong reason... Breeding shouldn't be done so that you can provide someone with a dog at a cheaper price than someone else. It should be a well thought out and extremely well planned thing. If someone wants a Yorkie or Doxie or any other breed cheap then for the love of Gods creatures go to the shelter nearest you and adopt one. There are many there that would give anything to have a loving home and many are purebred dogs.
This year I have had a total of 6 Yorkie puppies 2 of which are still here in my home. Now stop and think about this before you state to belittle me, along with those 6 puppies I have 10 adults. Seven females and three males so if you figure that out it comes to less than one puppy per female and those 6 puppies are from two litters.
When I breed one of my Yorkies it's because I have thought it out and I am trying to improve on what I have, not for the almighty dollar as you seem to insinuate when you speak of your prices compared to " show breeders".
I'll get off of my soap box now, but I just wanted to let you know that I thought you were drifting away from the topic of the original post... The health of your puppies sold from your site.
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Wow she was really small makes me think that she did not get the proper nurisment from mommy as a youngster and when she finally caught up she really grew.. Sorry to hear that but I would of said she would of been about 5 to 6 lbs.. but I know you love her all the much.
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I'm not doing any bashing but I do have a question or a statement however you want to look at it.
I just went to your site to look at your dogs and granted I only seen two breeds, poodle and yorkie I couldn't help but wonder.
Why don't you have a signal picture of an adult listed so that people can see what your dogs look like? You state that you share this site with others which is fine and dandy but, you could at least post pictures of your dogs as an example. I know myself and many others (not all show breeders) are proud of our Yorkies or what ever breed we raise and have pictures of the parents for all to see.
I know when I was looking to get my first Yorkie it was important for me to at least see pictures of the adults from the people I was talking to or interested in. While my Yorkies aren't all done up in bows and frills and there are no show pictures on my site I do have pictures of all of them (puppies and adults) so that people can see the type of Yorkies I have.
Also there are no names of other owners or even mention of any bloodlines on your site. Personally I want to know what bloodlines are there even if they aren't champion lines. You will find my pedigrees on my site by clicking on the dogs picture. This isn't done to show off but so that people know what is behind my Yorkies. I feel that anyone wanting to adopt one of my babies should have the right to be able to check the lines that are there and possibly talk with other breeders or owners who have the same lines.
I don't think that the prices that you get for your babies is what some of the people on here have an issue with...
What I am hearing (reading) is that some of your adopters have had health issues with their puppies.
As for all dogs getting mites or cocidia I don't agree with you at all, sure they can get these things but, not all have them.
If that were the case then I would have to concider myself the perfect home above all others (which I don't believe for one minute either) for my Yorkies because I have never had one of my Yorkies adult or puppy get ear mites. And as for cocidia I can honestly state and back it up with reports from my vet that I have only had this happen once in all the time I have had Yorkies.
Yes these problems can be cured this is true, but they can also be prevented in the first place.
You seem to be directing all of your statements at show breeders when in fact the people that have posted here haven't said once that they show or that they intend to show. They have even gone so far as to say they love thier puppies... they just weren't happy with the fact that the puppies they got from you or from your site had health issues.
I breed Yorkies occassionally and I also dabble in showing a couple of my Yorkies. Does that make me a show breeder? I don't think so, also I don't think that my prices are outragous concidering the time and effort I put into making sure that I have healthy happy well adjusted babies.
Personally I don't think you are being fair in your statements and you are doing the exact same thing that you are accusing others of doing... BASHING!
The only difference is that you are targeting everyone that shows a Yorkie or that has prices higher than yours.
If and mind you I am only saying IF you are raising Yorkies or any other breed just so that everyone can afford one then you are in it for the wrong reason... Breeding shouldn't be done so that you can provide someone with a dog at a cheaper price than someone else. It should be a well thought out and extremely well planned thing. If someone wants a Yorkie or Doxie or any other breed cheap then for the love of Gods creatures go to the shelter nearest you and adopt one. There are many there that would give anything to have a loving home and many are purebred dogs.
This year I have had a total of 6 Yorkie puppies 2 of which are still here in my home. Now stop and think about this before you state to belittle me, along with those 6 puppies I have 10 adults. Seven females and three males so if you figure that out it comes to less than one puppy per female and those 6 puppies are from two litters.
When I breed one of my Yorkies it's because I have thought it out and I am trying to improve on what I have, not for the almighty dollar as you seem to insinuate when you speak of your prices compared to " show breeders".
I'll get off of my soap box now, but I just wanted to let you know that I thought you were drifting away from the topic of the original post... The health of your puppies sold from your site.
Terri, she does have pictures of her females and males on her site.
As far as coccidia, well, they all do have it(this was told to me by my vet 3 weeks ago when I got my last puppy). I got her from a very reputable breeder, and when she ended up getting diarrhea, the vet said it could be coccidia. Even though her tests came out negative for it, the vet said that puppies have this, and that sometimes it never comes out, but, a big change(my puppy was 5 1/2 mos and was around puppies it knew up until the time it came to my house) could cause the coccidia, they said it had nothing to do with the breeders or the new owners
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Wow she was really small makes me think that she did not get the proper nurisment from mommy as a youngster and when she finally caught up she really grew.. Sorry to hear that but I would of said she would of been about 5 to 6 lbs.. but I know you love her all the much.
I was thinking more like she was a throwback, since they used to breed them bigger years ago, but, she is a beautiful yorkie, she's just big, and she does love to eat too...I free feed, and lately, everytime I turn around, she's grabbing a kibble
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I must have been at the wrong site then because I didn't see any adults, I'm sorry if I was wrong on that count.
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Actually not trying to bash anyone but I used to be in the show ring for many years and used to hear the so called show breeders be little and bash the heck out of the small breeders like my self. It is ashame but it is done more than anyone could imagine.. No I would not consider you a show breeder just some one that really enjoyed her dogs. I have only seen two people on here have issues and they never told me so I dont know if the pups where mine or one of the other breeders. I always try to help in anyway when I sell one of my pups. I actually give coccida preventive in my water to help with that issue which I normally dont see it.. and for mites I use a monthly treatment that my vet recommended because of the wild life that roams my area. Oh I do have my adults on my website and always have.. but if they are not my pups I normally dont have there parents on here unless I am provided pictures. Also we have two breeds of dogs for Yorkies are my little angels and wanted to share pups from dogs I think are healthy and happy to people that can not afford the high price that alot of breeders charge and yes I truly feel my own pups are worth alot more than what I ask but I know what my spending limits are and want people in my spending bracket to enjoy the love of these little dogs.. and as for poodles my mom used to show poodles about 40 years ago and they have always been her joy but because she is older now we do not breed them much.. I focus my time on my Yorkies..
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I must have been at the wrong site then because I didn't see any adults, I'm sorry if I was wrong on that count.
LOL Thats why I asked about the 12 lb female...
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I just found a report done by Pet Shop Puppies on this breeder. If you are not familiar with them, they are a not-for-profit organization that will research the background of any puppy purchased at a pet shop for free.

Note: This person is acting as a pet store by buying puppies from other breeders and selling to the public.

Email: amazingpups@pa.net
Phone: (410) 440-0460
URL: jadsdelights.com/


http://www.petshoppuppies.com/report...SHOP1219327316

In other words, this person is a puppy broker.
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And, who is this amazing pups? I tried finding a website on them and couldn't
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I just found a report done by Pet Shop Puppies on this breeder. If you are not familiar with them, they are a not-for-profit organization that will research the background of any puppy purchased at a pet shop for free.

Note: This person is acting as a pet store by buying puppies from other breeders and selling to the public.

Email: amazingpups@pa.net
Phone: (410) 440-0460
URL: jadsdelights.com/

http://www.petshoppuppies.com/report...SHOP1219327316

In other words, this person is a puppy broker.
Well dont know where you got this but it is funny.. Nathan Myer is friend of the family for 20 years and has on occasion sold pups thru my site.. Gabriel is my nephew and is the one who lives in Baltimore that sells the my pups saving people in that area a 3 hour trip..
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And, who is this amazing pups? I tried finding a website on them and couldn't
Amazing pups is the email address.
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Amazing pups is the email address.
my website is JAD DELIGHTS and amazingpups@pa.net if the email and once again because I let my nephew sell my pups I am a broker man where do you people get this stuff.
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Well dont know where you got this but it is funny.. Nathan Myer is friend of the family for 20 years and has on occasion sold pups thru my site.. Gabriel is my nephew and is the one who lives in Baltimore that sells the my pups saving people in that area a 3 hour trip..
This is the definition of a dealer according to the Animal Welfare Act:

The term “dealer” means any person who,
in commerce, for compensation or profit, delivers
for transportation, or transports, except as a carrier,
buys, or sells, or negotiates the purchase or sale of,
(1) any dog or other animal whether alive or dead
for research, teaching, exhibition, or use as a pet,
or (2) any dog for hunting, security, or breeding
purposes, except that this term does not include.


The Animal Welfare Act requires dealers to have a Class B dealer's license from the USDA. I don't see your nephew's name on the USDA dealer's list.

http://www.prisonersofgreed.org/ListB2006.pdf
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