Rolinn C Farm breeder in Lane,OK

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

I'm certainly no expert on breeding but looking at those pic's even I can see bad representations of the breed....I could even see that at night, in a dark alley, at 50 paces....... jmo

Sigh...yes, I have to agree.

[tammy8833]

i dont know the person that well
and the website i had seen before was different and still didnt have a lot of pics


i just found the link with the adults

hmmm....i have to agree that they are less then desirable

[gran]

Well after reading your post(S) and others here about that site I got to wondering about how you and others could say that the dogs in the pictures were less than desirable.
I revisited and read the pages of their satisfied customers and saw that all of them were positive. I wonder if any of you saw those, probably not.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by gran

Well after reading your post(S) and others here about that site I got to wondering about how you and others could say that the dogs in the pictures were less than desirable.

Many if not most here promote breeding dogs to the standard set for the Yorkshire Terrier. Therefore, any dog not meeting that standard--such as those in the pictures, apparently--is considered by many 'less than desireable' in regards to being used as breeding stock.
It doesn't mean the resulting pups aren't great pets that would result in 'satisfied customers,' but it doesn't mean it's a well bred dog conforming to breed standards either, which is what concerns many.

I was pretty sure about what you were 'wondering'--it is often the case when a loaded question like that gets asked by a brand new member.
I guess you could call it a trend.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...eder-info.html

[jp4m2]

Originally Posted by gran

Well after reading your post(S) and others here about that site I got to wondering about how you and others could say that the dogs in the pictures were less than desirable.
I revisited and read the pages of their satisfied customers and saw that all of them were positive. I wonder if any of you saw those, probably not.

I would go and take a second look now that I have put on my glasses, but the link doesn't work any more...Hhmmmm....

[gran]

Many if not most here promote breeding dogs to the standard set for the Yorkshire Terrier.

Ah I see...
But...This first post was not to see if the puppies were up to the "standard".

Does anyone know anything about this breeder good or bad. I have checked the references he gave me and they were good but since this is my first puppy I'm a little scared because I don't know exactly what to look for.

And what were your first words in reply?

First off, welcome to YT! You have come to a great place to look for the perfect little one.

The OP did not come here to look for a puppy...And did you give any of the good as requested?

And that is just from the little info they DO give.

Nope.
And then you say...

I was pretty sure about what you were 'wondering'--it is often the case when a loaded question like that gets asked by a brand new member.
I guess you could call it a trend.

Well again you are right, I am a new member, I came across this thread in the back end stats of the website I maintained for my brother the breeder and was interested in knowing why you thought the two dogs shown "never should have been bred". I have been to their kennel and have seen the love and care they give to the puppies (and parents), and I have seen how they treat their customers and there is not one thing deserving of the badmouthing you and others gave.
Yes the site is closed, they opted to close it down due to the postings on this thread.

[gran]

I guess you better take the link to it from your site off.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by gran

Ah I see...
But...This first post was not to see if the puppies were up to the "standard".

The OP did not come here to look for a puppy...And did you give any of the good as requested?
Nope.
And then you say...

Well again you are right, I am a new member, I came across this thread in the back end stats of the website I maintained for my brother the breeder and was interested in knowing why you thought the two dogs shown "never should have been bred". I have been to their kennel and have seen the love and care they give to the puppies (and parents), and I have seen how they treat their customers and there is not one thing deserving of the badmouthing you and others gave.
Yes the site is closed, they opted to close it down due to the postings on this thread.

The OP came and asked for insight on the good and bad of the breeder. Bottom line, I and others gave our OPINIONS based on the info and what was made available from the site, as we have every right to do. If you do not agree, then you have every right to voice your opinion and share what you know as well, as you have done.

[Mardelin]

Well again you are right, I am a new member, I came across this thread in the back end stats of the website I maintained for my brother the breeder and was interested in knowing why you thought the two dogs shown "never should have been bred". I have been to their kennel and have seen the love and care they give to the puppies (and parents), and I have seen how they treat their customers and there is not one thing deserving of the badmouthing you and others gave.
Yes the site is closed, they opted to close it down due to the postings on this thread.

[/QUOTE]

The world is filled with breeders that love their dogs and treat them well.....However, there are breeders that really aren't breeding correctly; to improve the breed and leave it better than they found it. Which is why this forum is here, to educate people, on how to make the right choice in picking a breeder and a puppy. At times the posts may be a bit blunt. However, I saw none of the badmouthing you described; just fact stating as they saw it.

[C C Kent]

Originally Posted by gran

Ah I see...
But...This first post was not to see if the puppies were up to the "standard".

And what were your first words in reply?
The OP did not come here to look for a puppy...And did you give any of the good as requested?
Nope.
And then you say...

Well again you are right, I am a new member, I came across this thread in the back end stats of the website I maintained for my brother the breeder and was interested in knowing why you thought the two dogs shown "never should have been bred". I have been to their kennel and have seen the love and care they give to the puppies (and parents), and I have seen how they treat their customers and there is not one thing deserving of the badmouthing you and others gave.
Yes the site is closed, they opted to close it down due to the postings on this thread.

As the webmaster for the site you might want to consider that in advertising on the web you offer your "Wares" up for consideration to THE WHOLE WORLD, novice and expert alike. Whether the breeder is breeding to the standard is fundamental to whether they are a good breeder. This site happens to have many members that know the standard like the back of their hands. They were asked for an opinion and they gave it. Sometimes good people on two sides of an issue have differing opinions, but in this situation the people you are passing judgement on did not seek out the site, they responded with honest opinions.

The opinions were aimed at breeding practice, non-standard breeding, breeding at what appears to be a commercial level, and using wire crates. These are all indicators of a basic puppy breeding business. If you are in the business, and rely on the income to eat, you have to make decisions much differently than if you are breeding to improve the breed, it's just a fact of life.

[Harley rules]

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[lmnurse7]

My name is Linsey and my grandparents own "Rolinn C Farms". I stumbled across this site and this post was on here and all of the negative things that were said was upsetting to me. They have been in the business for 5-6 years and take VERY good care of their dogs. I have been helping them since they started. Here is a little insite of a typical day that my grandparents do for these puppies and their breeding dogs.

Every morning (unless its too cold or too hot or even rainy), they take them out of their pens and let them play out in a fenced in yard. We keep the Yorkies and chihuahuas in separate yards. The smaller puppies are kept in a area inside the kennel on the floor so they can get some "exercise". I also seen were someone posted something about the "mixed breeds". We DO NOT mix breeds on purpose. The dogs sometimes climb the fences sparating the different breeds and it happened on accident. We havent had this happen in a VERY long time.

After the day is over, they are put in their sparate pins with a blanket in each pen. The kennel is equipped heat and AC and a humidifier. We give them "jerky treats" at the end of each day for being good dogs.

Im not saying that our kennel is the best out there by no means. Im just clearing the air by stating the truth. We love our dogs very much and are blessed to have them. All of my cousins (including me) play with the puppies everytime were over there. I can ASSURE you that they are well taken care of. Please take this into consideration before posting something that is negative. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by lmnurse7

My name is Linsey and my grandparents own "Rolinn C Farms". I stumbled across this site and this post was on here and all of the negative things that were said was upsetting to me. They have been in the business for 5-6 years and take VERY good care of their dogs. I have been helping them since they started. Here is a little insite of a typical day that my grandparents do for these puppies and their breeding dogs.

Every morning (unless its too cold or too hot or even rainy), they take them out of their pens and let them play out in a fenced in yard. We keep the Yorkies and chihuahuas in separate yards. The smaller puppies are kept in a area inside the kennel on the floor so they can get some "exercise". I also seen were someone posted something about the "mixed breeds". We DO NOT mix breeds on purpose. The dogs sometimes climb the fences sparating the different breeds and it happened on accident. We havent had this happen in a VERY long time.

After the day is over, they are put in their sparate pins with a blanket in each pen. The kennel is equipped heat and AC and a humidifier. We give them "jerky treats" at the end of each day for being good dogs.

Im not saying that our kennel is the best out there by no means. Im just clearing the air by stating the truth. We love our dogs very much and are blessed to have them. All of my cousins (including me) play with the puppies everytime were over there. I can ASSURE you that they are well taken care of. Please take this into consideration before posting something that is negative. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Lindsey,

Thank you so much for giving insight to your grandparent's bussiness. I'm sure they love their dogs and care for them well. However, those two things do not make up a breeder that is breeding correctly.

[4doggiemama]

Wire crates????? Oh, my!!!!!